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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2023 19:29:18 GMT -5
With San Antonio winning the lottery (and picking higher than Houston in the 1st rd), Boston will get the 35th pick in the 23 Draft (since Houston gets the higher 2nd Rd bt them and SA, and that pick is protected).
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Post by Don Caballero on May 16, 2023 19:31:36 GMT -5
Wemby to the Spurs is such a wholesome thing.
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Post by rjp313jr on May 17, 2023 5:17:12 GMT -5
Wemby to the Spurs is such a wholesome thing. It will be interesting to see if someone his size can hold up over time. |
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Post by mobaz on May 17, 2023 7:51:04 GMT -5
Among the tanking teams, Spurs deserved it karmatically the most, though Orlando might have been the funniest. I would have been ticked if Houston got it, and rioted if Dallas won.
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Post by Don Caballero on May 17, 2023 18:32:22 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if someone his size can hold up over time. He needs to bulk up a bit, just like Holmgren, but his frame is sturdier. He moves so incredibly well for someone his size. He’s also not the world’s best shooter despite being willing to shoot a lot, so it’d be interesting how his skillset translates. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 27, 2023 13:57:15 GMT -5
My first draft crush, Colby Jones SG/SF. Junior so he drops, yet can defend 1-4 in college, can create for his team and he's not a long-term project. 3 level scorer. Type of two way players I'm looking for.
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Post by philarhody on May 29, 2023 23:30:35 GMT -5
Blow this thing up. They won’t. But should.
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Post by soxfansince67 on May 29, 2023 23:34:55 GMT -5
Was just listening to Adam Silver on the Sports Hub - interesting idea they posed of getting a REAL point guard to facilitate the offense - an 8-10+ assists per night guy - which could remedy some of the issues with the offense and the turnovers.
I am too bummed about tonight's game - how the season ended - and can't think really of next steps clearly - yet.
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Post by jmei on May 30, 2023 8:55:07 GMT -5
I wonder how willing ownership is to spend deep into the luxury tax again. I think Grant Williams is a really good player who you might be able to re-sign at a relatively cheap price (~$10M per year?). I'm confident they'll be able to move guys like Brown, Smart, Brogdon, White and both Williamses if and when needed, so would rather lock in the asset than let it go for nothing, but reasonable minds might disagree (and some other team might offer him a bigger contract than he deserves, especially given how weak the FA class is).
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Post by cdj on May 30, 2023 10:36:48 GMT -5
I will manifest Lillard demanding a trade specifically to Boston
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Post by jmei on May 30, 2023 10:43:32 GMT -5
I will manifest Lillard demanding a trade specifically to Boston Lillard's not that kind of guy (or he would have gotten out of Portland much sooner). I do think Brown to the Blazers is in play, but the return would be a package centered around Simons and the third pick. If Scoot slips to #3, I'd have to think long and hard about that one if I'm the Celtics. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 30, 2023 11:03:56 GMT -5
Getting Simmons is like adding another Kemba Walker. It will make being elite on D almost impossible in the playoffs and would give you 4 combo guards. Unless the guy you can get at #3 is like Tatum and if he was why would they trade the pick?
Tatum came out saying resigning Brown is a must BTW.
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Post by mobaz on May 30, 2023 12:09:33 GMT -5
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Post by tizzle on May 30, 2023 12:32:14 GMT -5
Getting Simmons is like adding another Kemba Walker. It will make being elite on D almost impossible in the playoffs and would give you 4 combo guards. Unless the guy you can get at #3 is like Tatum and if he was why would they trade the pick? Tatum came out saying resigning Brown is a must BTW. Not all that interested in Tatum as GM. I saw a suggestion that Portland should offer Simons and a 1 (not the #3 overall obviously) for OG Anunoby and Precious Achiuwa. If I could turn Brown into Scoot and those two I'd be all over it. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 30, 2023 12:51:57 GMT -5
I'll first admit I know almost nothing on the top guys in this draft, outside of reading a few scouting reports.
Yet OG, PA and Scoot if that's actually an option has my attention and you'd have to consider that. Upgrade on D, backup defensive big and an upside PG.
Then again teams almost never trade picks if there is an elite prospect available. So I won't believe this till it gets reported and not just someone messing around with ESPN trade machine.
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Post by tizzle on May 30, 2023 12:58:50 GMT -5
I'll first admit I know almost nothing on the top guys in this draft, outside of reading a few scouting reports. Yet OG, PA and Scoot if that's actually an option has my attention and you'd have to consider that. Upgrade on D, backup defensive big and an upside PG. Then again teams almost never trade picks if there is an elite prospect available. So I won't believe this till it gets reported and not just someone messing around with ESPN trade machine. Certainly treat rumors as rumors. They are fun to talk about, but take with boulders of salt. The Portland-Toronto deal I posted was just a speculation from Portland media on something that could work, though you can see why it makes some sense. But, just to give at least a bit of credence where merited, the reports have been out there that Portland wants to deal Simons and #3 for an "elite small forward." That is based on reporting. Could be wrong, but it seems based on actual intel. And down on Brown as we may be, if they are interested in such a deal, Jaylen certainly fills the bill. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 30, 2023 13:03:29 GMT -5
Too much to ask for to hire Mike D'Antoni and Dave Joerger as top assistants? Gives you the offense guy and the strict defensive guy. Spend some money and give Joe a great bench filled with experienced coaches.
You can't do what they've been doing and hire low level guys with no NBA head coaching experience.
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Post by wcp3 on May 30, 2023 13:44:57 GMT -5
I like KOC, but he’s been nothing but hot takes lately (which…I know…is funny coming from me). I’m not sold on Mazzulla, but I think he did enough to earn another season with an experienced staff around him. The DNA of the team is the bigger issue that needs addressing, and I’d be surprised if both Marcus and Jaylen are back next year. They’ve been really good players for the Celtics, but they have to add a good shot creator onto this team. Jaylen is really bad in that regard, and Marcus floats in and out of wanting to play that role, so something’s gotta give. |
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Post by jmei on May 31, 2023 9:36:18 GMT -5
Even if he doesn't improve at all from where he was this season, Brown will still have trade value on the supermax. The NBA is a star-driven league and Brown is good enough that teams will want to acquire him even with an enormous contract. Look at Bradley Beal or Rudy Gobert, for instance. I actually think Brown has more trade value on the supermax than he does as an expiring contract. I'd sign him to that supermax first and then worry abut trades later.
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Post by cdj on May 31, 2023 20:08:21 GMT -5
They worked out Andre Jackson Jr, I’d like that
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Post by cdj on May 31, 2023 22:05:18 GMT -5
Pistons gave Monty Williams the bag
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 31, 2023 23:36:34 GMT -5
Andre Jackson, elite defender, high level athlete, good passer. The bad, can't shoot and frankly he can't score. Can he run an offense?
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Post by philarhody on Jun 1, 2023 8:20:17 GMT -5
Andre Jackson, elite defender, high level athlete, good passer. The bad, can't shoot and frankly he can't score. Can he run an offense? Like, in the NBA? |
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Post by wcp3 on Jun 1, 2023 9:55:02 GMT -5
Andre Jackson, elite defender, high level athlete, good passer. The bad, can't shoot and frankly he can't score. Can he run an offense? He’d be a perfect fit for this team. He’s also got a constant motor and has a little bit of an edge to him, which this team badly needs. His shooting and scoring is obviously a major question mark, but I wonder if the openness of the NBA game will help him there. The college game is so cluttered due to their archaic rules, and that tends to impact great athletes the most. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 1, 2023 10:22:46 GMT -5
Yeah in the NBA, nbadraft.net makes it sound like he could potentially. ESPN says he only could in fast break and his handle isn't good in half court. It's confusing. Ringer says he's not yet a guy who will be running the show in NBA, which makes it sound like he could in time.
If you can't score or shoot, being a point forward who can create for others gives him a role. Why I like Colby Jones.
Watched some tape, he's like Jones great vision, yet his dribble is high. He basically looks like the guard version of Robert Williams. His offense and shot is awkward, elite level athlete. If he's running the show, it's years down the line given the tape I just watched. Yet you see why the Celtics are interested.
Jones is like Tatum, very skilled, smooth, makes things look easy. Jackson is like a less skilled Brown on offense, yet with the vision Brown lacks and he actually uses his athletic ability on D.
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