Celtics 2023 Offseason Thread

Not to change subject but we traded our 1st rounder which is 30. But we are drafting at 35. Not bad, not bad at all.

I’m going to avoid the drama of this offseason. Here’s how I see it going:

1. Lots of BS rumors from frustrated fans and writers who have a job to do about Jaylen being traded…. He’s not.

2. Brown will sign a super max extension which makes JT happy and keeps the team together.

3. No big trades will be made

4. Pritchard will be dealt.

5. They’ll draft a guy at 35

6. They’ll probably add a big man for depth and maybe a wing.

7. The will add a couple experienced assistant coaches.

Mostly the same team will return. Mazzula was thrown into the job right before camp and his top assistant left towards the end of the year.

The offseason is going to be mostly boring with actual moves but the chatter will be loud.

They should stay the course with this group. Don’t tell me a 24 and 26 year old have maxed out.

Brown 2nd year 8.5% assist rate, 12% TO rate and 21.4% usage rate

This year a down year, 16.5%, 11.4% and 31.4%

If being twice as good as a playmaker isn't him developing I don't know what to say. He's also decreased his TO, while his usage rate has gone crazy.

What he needs to do is start decreasing his usage rate, which has gone up every year.

Brad has to do something creative I believe he has Pritchard and GWiiams and he has his first for 2024. I hate to mention it but u do what u have to.

I generally agree with this albeit I would not be surprised to see one of Smart or Brogdon traded, for a true point guard who can guide the offense against top defenses.

Want to make a splash, go trade Brogdon. Now you could insert other players, yet he was the worst defensive player by far in the playoffs. The debate we had about his D and some people thinking it could be better was dead wrong. He also was just another iso player. Now maybe better coaching can help solve our iso issues, you aren't fixing his D. White got destroyed by Butler for a few games, yet adjusted and showed you why he's a great defender.

Then you can keep Pritchard and still have an offensive spark plug coming off the bench.

Make things easier on our coach, designing a ball movement offense, with 3 crazy high iso players with high usage rates is going to be crazy hard.

I'm intrigued by Trayce Jackson-Davis PF/C. 23 year old senior and teams seem to hate seniors in the draft. 6'9" 240 pounds, 7'1" wing span. Explosive jumping ability, which makes him a very good shot blocker and rim runner. Good dribbling for a center and very good passer. Inside scorer with no outside shot as of now, which likely means Celtics aren't interested. Horford showed his age in that Miami series and our D just isn't the same when you take away Robert Williams shot blocking. Davis gives you rebounding, shot blocking, rim running and inside scoring. I like the fact that his inside scoring is quick moves use athletic ability and dribbling, not back to the basket. Horrible screener, needs major work. Lower half is NBA ready, he'll need to increase his upper half to deal with NBA centers. Looks more like 220/230 than 240 because of that.

Years ago I would have focused on the younger guys with highest upsides. Given this team, a senior who can likely get some minutes as a rookie seems smarter. He won't be a star and you always worry about guys like him, leading scorer on team adjusting to being role players. Yet he's the only big currently in our range going by recent rankings that seems like a good fit and I've looked at all of them, unless a higher rate big drops like Robert Williams did on draft night.

Colby Jones, Andre Jackson and Trayce Jackson-Davis all giving you D and good passing at their positions.

Good hire, they need a bunch of coaches. Yet what is Sam Cassell as a coach? I see a lot of the players love him. We need brilliant offensive and defensive minds though, coaches with actual HC experience. Good move if they are just getting started, not great if he's the big hire.

We still blaming Stevens for Irving? We blaming him for Kemba getting injured and those issues?

We've spent the last two years watching our teams be out coached and not be able to adjust. They literally just basically didn't run offense and they couldn't play different kinds of d. The wheels came off when simply trying to double team a guy. The one thing we basically got was them playing hard. We absolutely need great X and O guys!

Bobi Klintman sf/pf/small ball center. One of the biggest ranges in draft, mid first to mid 2nd round. Very good size, a good not great athlete. From Sweden where he played and then came to Prudue. A big upside guy, I've seen many comps, I come away thinking he's a young raw Lamar Odom type player. He could be a point forward in time, good handle for a guy his size and great passing vision like most Euro players. One of the better looking jump shots you'll see in a guy his size. Needs to add strength and power for NBA, he's no where near ready and frankly should have went back to college because he has lottery upside. I'd rather more NBA ready type guys, yet you can't overlook his upside. Watch his highlight tape and you think he's a mid first round pick, yet his production was rather horrible in college. Big plus is has a year going from euro to American style and he certainly looked a lot different. Had to mention him because of his upside and he's likely a guy the Celtics would be interested in.

Johnson was looking like a first rounder at Florida before he collapsed on the court. Been happy to see him rebound from that and was also looking at him as a potential option

Brad and Danny have only made positive value moves. I would be surprised to see them offer Jaylen the supermax. The advance statistics show that the Celtics were one of the worst teams in basketball when Jaylen was leading the offense.

A possible scenario? Brad and the Celtics offer Jaylen what they feel comfortable with (say, 5 years $190 mil.) and Jaylen demands a trade. Boston is then “forced” to trade Jaylen.