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Post by cdj on Sept 22, 2023 16:57:13 GMT -5
Celtics signed Lamar Stevens
Good D/energy off the bench
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 23, 2023 7:28:18 GMT -5
Celtics signed Lamar Stevens Good D/energy off the bench This type of signing does nothing for me. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 23, 2023 8:53:26 GMT -5
Yeah he also does nothing for me, unless our coach uses guys like him to run zone D at practices all year. More excited about the two practice squad signings.
Would have liked to gamble on a Ty Washington type player.
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Post by cdj on Sept 23, 2023 14:30:00 GMT -5
Celtics signed Lamar Stevens Good D/energy off the bench This type of signing does nothing for me. sure but not many guys signed in late September are gonna do much for most people. What intrigues me about him is that his 3 pt shot has improved all 3 years in the league. If he can work his way up to ~36% then I view him as a decent 3 + D wing. Other than that he’s depth that will play hard and be a nothing on the offensive end |
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 24, 2023 20:10:30 GMT -5
This type of signing does nothing for me. sure but not many guys signed in late September are gonna do much for most people. What intrigues me about him is that his 3 pt shot has improved all 3 years in the league. If he can work his way up to ~36% then I view him as a decent 3 + D wing. Other than that he’s depth that will play hard and be a nothing on the offensive end There are a few guys out there. I would have left the roster spot open before signing this guy to be honest. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2023 11:40:43 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Sept 26, 2023 12:13:20 GMT -5
sure but not many guys signed in late September are gonna do much for most people. What intrigues me about him is that his 3 pt shot has improved all 3 years in the league. If he can work his way up to ~36% then I view him as a decent 3 + D wing. Other than that he’s depth that will play hard and be a nothing on the offensive end There are a few guys out there. I would have left the roster spot open before signing this guy to be honest. Non-guaranteed spot it seems. So either he earns it or he isn’t here |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 26, 2023 12:48:52 GMT -5
Yeah they now have four guys like that, two only guaranteed 200k, Kornet nothing and whatever Stevens does.
Add whoever you want, just don't bitch we can't use our trade exception because it takes us over 2nd line. We really need to use it and get a player who will stick around like Anthony because it will be your last chance starting next year trades are very hard, no exceptions you can use, so only minimum free agents and draft picks.
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Post by rjp313jr on Sept 26, 2023 18:52:24 GMT -5
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Post by cdj on Sept 26, 2023 21:24:22 GMT -5
Kai Jones may be trying to crazy his way out of Charlotte, take a flier on him if he hits the market
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 27, 2023 0:22:31 GMT -5
Kai Jones may be trying to crazy his way out of Charlotte, take a flier on him if he hits the market I don’t know man, he’s doing TOO good of a job convincing people he’s crazy that he got me believing that too. We could do without the distraction. Cole Anthony, on the other hand, would be a savvy move if we think Brogdon is an injury liability. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 27, 2023 9:41:27 GMT -5
Improved for 3 straight years. He's very athletic, rebounds like crazy and in his prime should be a 1 steal and 1 block per 36 minute PG. Given his size he'll never be truly elite, he will be much better than Brogdon and Pritchard though. I'd imagine he only gets better going to a team like the Celtics. They shouldn't trade him, but it's the Magic. |
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Post by mobaz on Sept 27, 2023 9:46:46 GMT -5
Improved for 3 straight years. He's very athletic, rebounds like crazy and in his prime should be a 1 steal and 1 block per 36 minute PG. Given his size he'll never be truly elite, he will be much better than Brogdon and Pritchard though. I'd imagine he only gets better going to a team like the Celtics. They shouldn't trade him, but it's the Magic. Magic PG is like Red Sox Outfield, too many guys that are just good enough but not great enough. I was bitter the Celts passed on him in the draft so I'm fully supportive. He's 2+ years younger than Pritchard. Do our overseas stashes have any actual value? |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 27, 2023 13:17:59 GMT -5
Woj announcing Lillard to Milwaukee. Wow!
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Post by cdj on Sept 27, 2023 13:28:33 GMT -5
Woj announcing Lillard to Milwaukee. Wow! Big woah |
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Post by texs31 on Sept 27, 2023 13:28:49 GMT -5
Lillard to Milwaukee
Holiday, Ayton, Camara, '29 unprotected 1st and '28 and '30 Pick swaps (all from Mil) to Portland
Nurkic, Allen, Little and Johnson to Phoenix
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 27, 2023 13:33:18 GMT -5
Ah yes, the rare superstar trade that somehow manages to make every team involved worse. Don't get it for the Bucks, don't get it for the Suns and I truly don't get it for the Blazers.
Unless the Blazers are able to flip Jrue for a good return. Honestly I think I like Jrue more than Dame lol.
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Post by texs31 on Sept 27, 2023 13:39:00 GMT -5
Milwaukee - They had to make Giannis happy and this will. They'll have to play differently w/o Jrue (or find a player that can do what he did) but I don't know if they are definitively worse (though it could easily turn out that way).
Phoenix - They've been trying to move Ayton and their return under that framework was decent
Portland - They are the biggest ? mark but it largely depends on what they do with Holiday. Not sure he fits into their plan but the salary was needed so ?? That the biggest prize is a pick in 29 that is unprotected was a smart move. The rest is (mostly) trade mechanics (Ayton swapping in for Nurkic is probably a plus as well - at least in pure talent).
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Post by mobaz on Sept 27, 2023 13:52:59 GMT -5
I'm not scared. In an ECF setting, Lillard will be a defensive liability and really just gets them back on offense to what Peak Middleton was. I expect Middleton to keep fading and Lopez to take a step back, so just not that worried. I get the Bucks leaning in to make Giannis happy (the only thing that matters) but just not sure this moves the needle on the court.
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 27, 2023 13:53:36 GMT -5
Milwaukee - They had to make Giannis happy and this will. They'll have to play differently w/o Jrue (or find a player that can do what he did) but I don't know if they are definitively worse (though it could easily turn out that way). Phoenix - They've been trying to move Ayton and their return under that framework was decent Portland - They are the biggest ? mark but it largely depends on what they do with Holiday. Not sure he fits into their plan but the salary was needed so ?? That the biggest prize is a pick in 29 that is unprotected was a smart move. The rest is (mostly) trade mechanics (Ayton swapping in for Nurkic is probably a plus as well - at least in pure talent). But the Bucks lose BIG on defense, the Suns downgrade from Ayton to Nurkic (who's a borderline JAG at this point) and the Blazers get two pieces that will keep them from fully TANKING while also not being true cornerstones. Also I agree with your reasoning, but I absolutely HATE when teams do trades to keep a player happy, that's a poor way to evaluate talent and roster construction. I think the fringe guys save this trade for the Suns, Allen and Little are good depth pieces. For the Blazers, they can get a decent return for Jrue, not unlike how the Wizards got for Chris Paul. For the Bucks, I guess you pair a dominant big man with one of the best shooting guards ever, so that's always fun. And Miami gets boned in the process. I'm warming up to the trade. |
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Post by bg23 on Sept 27, 2023 14:04:14 GMT -5
I actually like this move for Milwaukee. The seismic drop in perimeter defense from Jrue to Dame is mitigated by having two of the best rim protectors in the NBA. The defense isn’t going to be good, but it won’t crater with Giannis and Brook on the court. The offense on the other hand is completely revamped. The spacing around Giannis is spectacular, the Dame/Giannis pick and roll will be nearly impossible to stop, and they have legit end of game options now. I love Jrue Holiday, but I think Dame fits that roster better.
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Post by mobaz on Sept 27, 2023 14:15:22 GMT -5
I'm not scared. In an ECF setting, Lillard will be a defensive liability and really just gets them back on offense to what Peak Middleton was. I expect Middleton to keep fading and Lopez to take a step back, so just not that worried. I get the Bucks leaning in to make Giannis happy (the only thing that matters) but just not sure this moves the needle on the court. Now THIS would scare me. Jrue goes back to where it started and Harden is gone? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 27, 2023 14:59:04 GMT -5
Improved for 3 straight years. He's very athletic, rebounds like crazy and in his prime should be a 1 steal and 1 block per 36 minute PG. Given his size he'll never be truly elite, he will be much better than Brogdon and Pritchard though. I'd imagine he only gets better going to a team like the Celtics. They shouldn't trade him, but it's the Magic. Magic PG is like Red Sox Outfield, too many guys that are just good enough but not great enough. I was bitter the Celts passed on him in the draft so I'm fully supportive. He's 2+ years younger than Pritchard. Do our overseas stashes have any actual value? Not really, Madar might be the value of a 2nd round pick, the other is nothing. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Sept 27, 2023 15:14:45 GMT -5
I get the trade for all 3 teams, I absolutely love this for Portland, Ayton has a ton of talent. If can unlock it, watch out. Potentially 3 high picks. That team wasn't build to rebuild and no way to dump all those contracts quickly. So see how things go and then pick a path. Much better than anything the Heat were offering. Holiday can mentor their top pick at PG for at least half a season. I wouldn't trade for Harden unless they are throwing in assets.
The Bucks going for it, makes sense. I have my doubts and PG like Lillard can fall off quickly. At the same time it seem like just a matter of time before Giannis asks to be traded, so go for it. Does hurt their rather bad depth even more.
Suns get rid of a guy who doesn't fit it's ball dominant players. Add much needed depth. I get it, still wouldn't have done it though. I wouldn't have done most things the Suns have done though.
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Post by texs31 on Sept 27, 2023 19:57:33 GMT -5
Himmelsbach reporting that Boston will, indeed, look into trading for Holiday.
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