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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 6, 2024 12:35:47 GMT -5
I wrote what literally may have been 2000 words on my thoughts from the College Station regional, and when I hit post, it gave me an error message, and it was all gone... That is crushing. No chance I'm going to do that again, but if there's a player from Grambling, Texas, Louisiana, or Texas A&M that anyone is ever curious about, they can feel free to ask and I'll share my thoughts individually (I’ll also gladly expand on any of the players I mention below). I don't have the energy to write up 25 or so players again... A couple highlights: - Kyle DeBarge is very Pedey-esque (in a general sense, not going to set those expectations specifically) and would be a really fun pick in like the fourth. - Braden Montgomery is every bit the top 10 pick he's billed to be and would have a top 5 outfield arm from day one. Should he fall by some miracle, I will throw a table over for him to be the pick. - I will pound the table for Ryan Prager the same way I did for Connelly Early last year (tons of good starter qualities, just needs some more fastball velo - dude threw an immaculate inning!!) - Kimble Schuessler is a real sleeper for me in this draft if he can catch at all (TBD). - Chris Cortez is a guy I will be way higher on than anyone, and wouldn't hate him under slot in the second round (100 mph with good IVB, a truly unhittable slider when he's on, but terrible control and lack of a true third pitch the obvious risks.). The highs are so high that they are worth that level of investment to me. I didn't catch quite as much A&M, this season - do you have any concerns about Braden Montgomery swing and miss, especially with regards to off speed stuff? I don't know about specific pitch types, but I do think the swing and miss is somewhat of a concern to monitor. I was at the point with him a month and a half ago where I thought he had a real case for 1-1, but with some of the struggles he's had in May, I came into this Regional thinking that he may have a chance to slip to 12 if he keeps playing the way he had been. He righted the ship in a major way this past weekend, but I do think it's still something to keep in mind. I don't think it's a swing question as much as it is an approach question, as he can have bouts of being really chase-happy. It seems as if he's predetermining a lot, and while it's great that he's a super cerebral kid, that feels like it can cut both ways as he does seem to be in his own head from time to time. I don't think it's something that can't be fixed, and I don't think it brings the whole profile down, but I could see him being a little streakier of a hitter than you'd like because of it. It's also worth noting that he does switch hit but may end up being a full time lefty, because while the right-handed swing has improved and he's not awful on that end, there's a pretty substantial gap between the two and teams will bring it lefties in leverage situations just to force him over to the right side. |
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Post by southcoastghost on Jun 6, 2024 12:51:24 GMT -5
This is another interesting point. Anecdotally, it feels like pitchers take longer to settle in at the major league level. (E.g., look at Houck who is just hitting his stride in his last pre-arb year, or how Bello still seems like a work in progress.) In which case the drafting team gets less value out of that player before they hit free agency, even if they end up having a solid career. But maybe my feels are wrong about this; not sure what the numbers say. Yeah this is what I was alluding to. Obviously you'd have to do a much more rigorous study than simply looking at the top 30 position players and pitchers to validate this (or any of the other potential takeaways being discussed - though I do think that the point about "surprise" players like post-10th rounders developing into stars is pretty clear, that happens with pitchers much more often than hitters). To the point about taking a 2B though I did find this article from BA which touches on it kind of interesting: www.baseballamerica.com/stories/how-often-do-first-rounders-make-the-big-leagues/Players drafted as 2Bs are, by a decent margin, the worst bets among position players to make the majors (though they are still a clearly better bet to make it than a starting pitcher as a starting pitcher). Interesting to read that article when two college 2Bs (Bazzana, Wetherholt) are both about to be selected in the top half of the first round this year, with Bazzana possibly going first overall. |
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 6, 2024 19:15:58 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 6, 2024 19:20:47 GMT -5
William and Mary's departing head coach is the father of new Red Sox scout Mason McRae. They have a pitcher with a mid-round ranking, Nate Knowles.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 6, 2024 19:50:47 GMT -5
People can feel how they feel about a guy who may be a second baseman in the first round, but let’s be realistic. Outside of Yesavage, how many other guys in this mock are going after 12 that would be clearly better picks, especially when you consider likely slot considerations? Like I’d certainly want Yesavage, but they also seem pretty well positioned to pick and choose from that huge tier of college bats that they both like and can save some money on. |
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Post by bentossaurus on Jun 6, 2024 20:17:48 GMT -5
People can feel how they feel about a guy who may be a second baseman in the first round, but let’s be realistic. Outside of Yesavage, how many other guys in this mock are going after 12 that would be clearly better picks, especially when you consider likely slot considerations? Like I’d certainly want Yesavage, but they also seem pretty well positioned to pick and choose from that huge tier of college bats that they both like and can save some money on. Not clearly like you ask, but I'd be chuffed to bits with Brecht. |
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Post by jdb on Jun 7, 2024 12:01:41 GMT -5
Future star series had an alternating mock yesterday. futurestarsseries.com/mlb-draft-mock-hagen-smith-rockies-cardinals-montgomery-caglianone/12. BOSTON RED SOX Doyle: Trey Yesavage, RHP – East Carolina You can never have enough pitching and Yesavage warrants a pick in this range thanks to his overwhelming fastball and a full menu of secondaries that could get big league hitters out right now. He could move quick through Boston’s system and would obviously offer them some of the best upside their farm has seen on the mound in a very long time. |
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jun 7, 2024 18:11:25 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 7, 2024 18:29:54 GMT -5
it’s just too dang bad he plays second base.. |
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Post by chr31ter on Jun 7, 2024 18:31:04 GMT -5
Kid's a hitter. I get what people are saying about position, but I couldn't blame the Sox if they just really, really liked the bat and figured they'll find a position for him later. |
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Post by thelpc on Jun 7, 2024 18:44:48 GMT -5
Future star series had an alternating mock yesterday. futurestarsseries.com/mlb-draft-mock-hagen-smith-rockies-cardinals-montgomery-caglianone/12. BOSTON RED SOX Doyle: Trey Yesavage, RHP – East Carolina You can never have enough pitching and Yesavage warrants a pick in this range thanks to his overwhelming fastball and a full menu of secondaries that could get big league hitters out right now. He could move quick through Boston’s system and would obviously offer them some of the best upside their farm has seen on the mound in a very long time. Put me down as a Yes on Yesavage |
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Post by keninten on Jun 7, 2024 20:41:36 GMT -5
it’s just too dang bad he plays second base.. Say that to Pedey. |
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Post by nonothing on Jun 7, 2024 21:30:52 GMT -5
Round 1- Trey Yesavage RHP (college)
Round 2 - Dasan Hill LHP (HS)
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Post by nonothing on Jun 7, 2024 21:31:44 GMT -5
Kid's a hitter. I get what people are saying about position, but I couldn't blame the Sox if they just really, really liked the bat and figured they'll find a position for him later. They find one for Enmanuel Valdez yet? He's already shown he can hit in the show and botch routine plays at 2B. Let's definitely add another! |
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Post by nonothing on Jun 7, 2024 21:35:14 GMT -5
it’s just too dang bad he plays second base.. Say that to Pedey. Pedey was an *excellent* defender at 2B. Like very excellent -- gold glove excellent. 4x. |
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Post by crossedsabres8 on Jun 7, 2024 21:48:05 GMT -5
Positional value is one thing, but do we really want to draft a guy who went to Tennessee?
I kid, mostly.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 7, 2024 21:48:07 GMT -5
Kid's a hitter. I get what people are saying about position, but I couldn't blame the Sox if they just really, really liked the bat and figured they'll find a position for him later. They find one for Enmanuel Valdez yet? He's already shown he can hit in the show and botch routine plays at 2B. Let's definitely add another! What does that have to do with anything? Moore would be a much better prospect than Valdez on both sides of the ball, this is a dumb non sequitur. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 7, 2024 21:51:32 GMT -5
Very few prospects I’ve wanted to believe in as much as Vance Honeycutt but man…. Back to striking out an insane amount. I think this will wind up a hot take but I’d still probably lean him over Seaver King but I may be out on both.
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Post by cdj on Jun 7, 2024 21:53:08 GMT -5
Kid's a hitter. I get what people are saying about position, but I couldn't blame the Sox if they just really, really liked the bat and figured they'll find a position for him later. They find one for Enmanuel Valdez yet? He's already shown he can hit in the show and botch routine plays at 2B. Let's definitely add another! really silly comparison aside as much as I love warm weather EnManny right now he absolutely has not shown he can hit in the show, his career OBP is .270 |
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Post by nonothing on Jun 8, 2024 7:58:06 GMT -5
They find one for Enmanuel Valdez yet? He's already shown he can hit in the show and botch routine plays at 2B. Let's definitely add another! really silly comparison aside as much as I love warm weather EnManny right now he absolutely has not shown he can hit in the show, his career OBP is .270 Fair - I meant (but didn't correctly write) that he had proved he could hit enough in pro baseball to get to the show, but I was really comparing the butcher D botching routine plays. Valdez isn't a LT fit in bigs if he can't make routine plays. In fairness, Moore could play OF. He is of avg speed. So there may be another route. I would draft him only if I thought he could be a good OF. I would assume he isn't good enough as an infield defender to play 2B, so would just evaluate his propects in the grass + at the plate. |
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 8, 2024 8:05:25 GMT -5
really silly comparison aside as much as I love warm weather EnManny right now he absolutely has not shown he can hit in the show, his career OBP is .270 Fair - I meant (but didn't correctly write) that he had proved he could hit enough in pro baseball to get to the show, but I was really comparing the butcher D botching routine plays. Valdez isn't a LT fit in bigs if he can't make routine plays. In fairness, Moore could play OF. He is of avg speed. So there may be another route. I would draft him only if I thought he could be a good OF. I would assume he isn't good enough as an infield defender to play 2B, so would just evaluate his propects in the grass + at the plate. Why are you just assuming he isn’t a good enough infield defender to play second? That makes no sense. If you’ve watched him a lot there and you don’t think he’s good then that ones thing but that clearly doesn’t seem to be the case so it’s ridiculous that you’d just make that assumption. |
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Post by nomar on Jun 8, 2024 8:05:54 GMT -5
Kid's a hitter. I get what people are saying about position, but I couldn't blame the Sox if they just really, really liked the bat and figured they'll find a position for him later. He is going to K a good amount. If you want to draft a positionless bat, Tibbs or White seem like safer bets in terms of hit tool. But if you feel confident about Moore’s glove at 2B, that’s still a better defensive outlook than those other two. |
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Post by teddyballgame9 on Jun 8, 2024 9:30:57 GMT -5
I was originally hoping for a top ten college bat, but I’m really coming around to the idea of Yesavage. Speaking of 2B, does anyone have any insight on Theo Gillen? If he’s around for us in the second round, he could be interesting. I’ve never seen him play but intrigued by his profile just interested if anyone who has seen him knows if he would stick a 2B or potentially a good fit for Fenway LF?
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Post by bettsonmookie on Jun 8, 2024 11:10:28 GMT -5
This year's draft should be a lot of fun. Not only because of the excitement of adding talent @ 12 and the names we have speculated about all season.
But because it's Breslow's first crack at the draft in his new role.
What strategy does he bring to the table? What types of player profiles do they target under his watch?
This class should give a new level of insight into his way of thinking. He has done fairly well so far making the most of what he has. I am excited to see what he can do when he is able to "cook the meal with his own ingredients" to paraphrase Bill Parcells.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Jun 8, 2024 13:53:00 GMT -5
So it seems Braden Montgomery may have broken his leg on a play at the plate against Oregon. Had to be helped off the field while wearing some sort of cast.
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