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Post by incandenza on Aug 2, 2023 13:07:45 GMT -5
If it worked out that way, I'm sure there would be some rotation. I think Verdugo would say it was his working with Dewey this past spring. Maybe, but I've always thought he was very solid in RF going back to 2020. Whereas he seemed subpar in LF and unplayable in CF when they tried that in 2022. (What a mess that outfield construction was...)
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Post by jawnvalentin on Aug 2, 2023 13:14:24 GMT -5
I understand the doubts with Rafaela, but I've never wanted the doubters to be more wrong on a prospect.
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Post by ephus on Aug 2, 2023 13:17:07 GMT -5
I would love hear Trevor Story's take on Rafaela. Would he want him in Boston? Given the excitement, I wouldn't be surprised if he is asked by media - maybe off camera. But people have to be thinking it, right?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2023 13:19:06 GMT -5
Duran in LF, Yoshida at DH? I don't mind that for Yoshida, but Duran looks better to me at CF than LF (though only UZR agrees with me; OAA is neutral and DRS thinks he's been quite bad in CF). And Verdugo for some reason only seems good in RF. I would be surprised if they didn't bring Turner back I'd be surprised if Turner didn't exercise his player option.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 2, 2023 13:23:24 GMT -5
I would be surprised if they didn't bring Turner back I'd be surprised if Turner didn't exercise his player option. I wouldn't be so sure. It's a $13.4M player option or a $6.7M buyout. The decision turns on whether he thinks he'll get 1/$6.7M (the difference between the two numbers) in his next deal. I gotta think he does, no? IIRC, the contract was designed to pay him 1/15 but spread it over two seasons for CBT purposes.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2023 13:24:58 GMT -5
For me, it was the stolen base. He's not good at pitcher reads. Interesting, didn't realize that.. Certainly would explain how he went from 30 SB in 60 games in Portland, and just 3 in 27 games in Worcester. That's something you can develop over time though, I don't think Duran was all that stellar with pitcher reads throughout his time in the minors (particularly based on what I've heard on game broadcasts, about how much he's improved in that regard). I believe Kyle Hudson has been working with Duran on defense and pitcher reads.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 2, 2023 13:25:54 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so sure. It's a $13.4M player option or a $6.7M buyout. The decision turns on whether he thinks he'll get 1/$6.7M (the difference between the two numbers) in his next deal. I gotta think he does, no? Wouldn't he have to get >$21.1M to make that worth it? No. Either A) he exercises his option and gets a $13.4m salary, or B) he doesn't and gets $6.7m as a buyout. He doesn't get the buyout if he exercises his option.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 2, 2023 13:27:43 GMT -5
Wouldn't he have to get >$21.1M to make that worth it? No. Either A) he exercises his option and gets a $13.4m salary, or B) he doesn't and gets $6.7m as a buyout. He doesn't get the buyout if he exercises his option. Yeah I had it in my mind somehow that he would be the one paying the buyout which doesn't make any sense and is why I deleted the initial comment, my b
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2023 13:28:01 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if Turner didn't exercise his player option. I wouldn't be so sure. It's a $13.4M player option or a $6.7M buyout. The decision turns on whether he thinks he'll get 1/$6.7M (the difference between the two numbers) in his next deal. I gotta think he does, no? IIRC, the contract was designed to pay him 1/15 but spread it over two seasons for CBT purposes. Could be, I think he'd get that but maybe he would prefer a one year extension. At his age, that would make sense.
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Post by nomar on Aug 2, 2023 13:28:45 GMT -5
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 2, 2023 13:30:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so sure. It's a $13.4M player option or a $6.7M buyout. The decision turns on whether he thinks he'll get 1/$6.7M (the difference between the two numbers) in his next deal. I gotta think he does, no? IIRC, the contract was designed to pay him 1/15 but spread it over two seasons for CBT purposes. Could be, I think he'd get that but maybe he would prefer a one year extension. At his age, that would make sense. You mean tack a year on to his current deal and make it go to 2025? I dunno on that. If you mean get a one-year deal for next year, I could see him and the club agreeing on some middle ground for 2024 maybe.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Aug 2, 2023 13:30:51 GMT -5
Cool yeah cool homer whatever uh hey can we talk about whoever coordinated uniforms for this game needing to be fired?
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Post by bcsox on Aug 2, 2023 13:32:36 GMT -5
If Rafaela posted a Darren Lewis career would we be happy? How about Coco Crisp?
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Post by strafeball on Aug 2, 2023 13:33:33 GMT -5
I really hope Mayer starts figuring it out at the plate. Another 0-5 day where his OPS is close to falling below 600.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2023 13:36:30 GMT -5
Could be, I think he'd get that but maybe he would prefer a one year extension. At his age, that would make sense. You mean tack a year on to his current deal and make it go to 2025? I dunno on that. If you mean get a one-year deal for next year, I could see him and the club agreeing on some middle ground for 2024 maybe. Maybe reading too much into it but his wife was pretty clearly worried at the trade deadline. If he plans to buyout, that doesn't fit.
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Post by cdj on Aug 2, 2023 13:37:36 GMT -5
Rafaela really showing off that Oppo power lately, I’ll take less steals if it means more dingers!
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 2, 2023 13:42:05 GMT -5
I would be surprised if they didn't bring Turner back I'd be surprised if Turner didn't exercise his player option. Barring injury I'll be shocked if Turner does exercise his player option. He'll easily make more than 8M next year which is all he needs to do to make a profit. I'm thinking he and the Red Sox work out a deal though, maybe like $15-$20M on one year, or a lower amount with another player option.
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Post by brendan98 on Aug 2, 2023 13:43:56 GMT -5
Rafaela up, does he get a single pitch to hit?
Edit: the answer is nope!
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Aug 2, 2023 13:45:51 GMT -5
You mean tack a year on to his current deal and make it go to 2025? I dunno on that. If you mean get a one-year deal for next year, I could see him and the club agreeing on some middle ground for 2024 maybe. Maybe reading too much into it but his wife was pretty clearly worried at the trade deadline. If he plans to buyout, that doesn't fit. Sure it does. He takes the buyout and negotiates a contract with the club that's more than 1/6.7, right? Even going to the numbers mentioned above is giving the team a discount while getting him paid more than he otherwise would have with the player option.
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Post by huskies15 on Aug 2, 2023 13:49:30 GMT -5
Mayer might need a week off
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2023 13:53:18 GMT -5
Maybe reading too much into it but his wife was pretty clearly worried at the trade deadline. If he plans to buyout, that doesn't fit. Sure it does. He takes the buyout and negotiates a contract with the club that's more than 1/6.7, right? Even going to the numbers mentioned above is giving the team a discount while getting him paid more than he otherwise would have with the player option. The player option is lost if he's traded ?
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Aug 2, 2023 13:53:38 GMT -5
Rafaela up, does he get a single pitch to hit? Edit: the answer is nope! If 4 k’s ina game is a Golden Sombrero. Is 4 bb’s Golden Zapato?
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Post by James Dunne on Aug 2, 2023 13:56:25 GMT -5
The hilarious part of Rafaela's walks today is that he seemed entirely unable to take a pitch yesterday. He had some bad swings at really atrocious ones! And every time I point that out people thing I'm burying him rather than making an observation.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 2, 2023 13:57:43 GMT -5
Abreau teaches them a lesson for walking him with a 1 run lead late in the game.
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Post by wildsox on Aug 2, 2023 13:57:48 GMT -5
If Rafaela posted a Darren Lewis career would we be happy? How about Coco Crisp? I really enjoyed watching DLew play
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