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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 4, 2023 21:39:30 GMT -5
Should have traded Verdugo for whatever we could have gotten at the deadline. Yeah. Could trade him in the off season still but teams will be less desperate. I totally understand not trading him but I also wanted to trade him.
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Post by blizzards39 on Aug 4, 2023 21:49:41 GMT -5
Most disappointing loss of year.
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Post by manfred on Aug 4, 2023 21:50:50 GMT -5
That loss is entirely my fault I will be betting on toronto tomorrow. For the good of the nation. Did you really bet Verdugo over 1.5 hits? He hasnât done that in a month. Just bet it all on Duran. Meanwhile, now that Kiké and Arroyo are gone, I think Verdugo is my least favorite player on the team. Sorry, Verdugo fan club. Welcome to the Dark Side.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 4, 2023 21:58:45 GMT -5
I have had a bad feeling about this series.
They needed to win tonight, but Toronto came out and set the tone as Paxtin didnt have it.
And the bats were MIA again.
They have gotten away with these bullpen games but sooner or later its going to bite them in the butt.
If so the Sox can split the next 2 games they're still in it, albeit going in the wrong direction.
But I'm worried they get swept and find themselves 5 games out. While not insurmountable it can be a tough deficit to overcome, especially if they cant out together a long consistent stretch of excellency. They need to play .600 ball the rest of the way or they won't make it.
They haven't scored runs since going on the coast. They need to have a bust out game, where they score a dozen runs or more. And it needs to happen tomorrow or Sunday.
I'm worried if they score 8 runs theyll lose 9-8. I mean they really need to run up the scoreboard. I feel if they dont they're going to get swept.
If they fall 5 out, they might wind up playing out the string the rest of the way before the supposed cavalry comes back.
This team is good enough to win, but they're clearly not playing like it.
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Post by briam on Aug 4, 2023 22:07:30 GMT -5
Is Bernardino hurt?
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 4, 2023 22:10:12 GMT -5
Team sell is looking good right now.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Aug 4, 2023 22:22:42 GMT -5
What can they get for Paxton at the trade deadline ?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 4, 2023 22:34:23 GMT -5
So - 1-5 last six games - 19 runs scored total over those 6 games. If there is any chance at all, we need to feast on the upcoming series against KC, Det and WA.
Fangraphs playoff odds just a bit over 20%
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Post by cdj on Aug 4, 2023 22:56:57 GMT -5
That loss is entirely my fault I will be betting on toronto tomorrow. For the good of the nation. Did you really bet Verdugo over 1.5 hits? He hasnât done that in a month. Just bet it all on Duran. Meanwhile, now that Kiké and Arroyo are gone, I think Verdugo is my least favorite player on the team. Sorry, Verdugo fan club. 6 game hitting streak coming into the night facing a giant turd who he has historically hit well. Got it at good odds Had I bet the under he would have had 2 hits For the record nobody cares about who your whipping boy is, you don’t need to apologize. We’ve all got somebody, mine just happens to be Dave O’Brien. But I’d argue he’s far more deserving, especially after that Schneider home run call. Screw that guy forever.
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Post by bosoxnation on Aug 5, 2023 3:20:57 GMT -5
When we lose this thread might be one of the most toxic things i’ve ever seen and i have instagram
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 5, 2023 6:49:36 GMT -5
When we lose this thread might be one of the most toxic things i’ve ever seen and i have instagram I only do gardening on Instagram - it is a peaceful garden of Eden! 😀
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Post by cba82 on Aug 5, 2023 7:00:29 GMT -5
Trevor Story needs to be activated for Saturday’s game; we need wins, starting today.
2-5 since the feel-good series vs. Atlanta.
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Post by cdj on Aug 5, 2023 7:31:19 GMT -5
Trevor Story needs to be activated for Saturday’s game; we need wins, starting today. 2-5 since the feel-good series vs. Atlanta. He really doesn’t “need” to be. People said this for last nights game too and the guy he would’ve replaced is one of the only ppl that did anything I think you’ll see him tomorrow afternoon
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 5, 2023 8:45:07 GMT -5
Team needed reinforcements or to sell. They kind of sold but not really. Bleier sucks. But that being said I'm rooting for this team to get in but its going to be very difficult. They cannot lose Sale or Story once they return for any period of time. Those two are the deadline acquisitions so hopefully they keep their heads above water until they return.
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Aug 5, 2023 8:46:32 GMT -5
Should have traded Verdugo for whatever we could have gotten at the deadline. Yeah. Could trade him in the off season still but teams will be less desperate. I totally understand not trading him but I also wanted to trade him. Rafaela could have been the spark this team needed. At this point though I'd wait till the offseason and sell high on Duran for a good young starter.
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 5, 2023 9:28:07 GMT -5
Sox have averaged 3.14 runs since the start of the Giants series. The one time they scored more than 3 runs they won. Casas, Devers, Duvall, Yoshida and Wong have all been ice cold in that time. Verdugo and Turner simply average.
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 5, 2023 9:29:20 GMT -5
Team needed reinforcements or to sell. They kind of sold but not really. Bleier sucks. But that being said I'm rooting for this team to get in but it’s going to be very difficult. They cannot lose Sale or Story once they return for any period of time. Those two are the deadline acquisitions so hopefully they keep their heads above water until they return. I’ll put my money on Urias being a bigger upgrade over the Red Sox second base pit than say Jack Flaherty would have been over their 5th starter/bullpen game group.
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Post by patford on Aug 5, 2023 9:59:12 GMT -5
Sox have averaged 3.14 runs since the start of the Giants series. The one time they scored more than 3 runs they won. Casas, Devers, Duvall, Yoshida and Wong have all been ice cold in that time. Verdugo and Turner simply average. As good as the lineup is statistically they go into these horrible slumps. It would be nice if Devers was the kind of bat that could carry a team but sadly he has settled into being a very good player but not the kind of bat that can carry a team on his shoulders.
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 5, 2023 10:11:30 GMT -5
Sox have averaged 3.14 runs since the start of the Giants series. The one time they scored more than 3 runs they won. Casas, Devers, Duvall, Yoshida and Wong have all been ice cold in that time. Verdugo and Turner simply average. Sox lead the majors in hard hit % in this span
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 5, 2023 10:38:52 GMT -5
Team needed reinforcements or to sell. They kind of sold but not really. Bleier sucks. But that being said I'm rooting for this team to get in but it’s going to be very difficult. They cannot lose Sale or Story once they return for any period of time. Those two are the deadline acquisitions so hopefully they keep their heads above water until they return. I’ll put my money on Urias being a bigger upgrade over the Red Sox second base pit than say Jack Flaherty would have been over their 5th starter/bullpen game group. The guy has 8 hits in 50 at bats. I'm not counting on him for anything. To me, he's a hope for the best, but expect nothing. Like Chris Sale. The Red Sox are quickly running low on time too. They needed a sweep here. Winning the series at least will be a huge help. Losing would be bad for their odds and getting swept will be catastrophic.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 5, 2023 10:43:47 GMT -5
Sox have averaged 3.14 runs since the start of the Giants series. The one time they scored more than 3 runs they won. Casas, Devers, Duvall, Yoshida and Wong have all been ice cold in that time. Verdugo and Turner simply average. Sox lead the majors in hard hit % in this span
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2023 10:53:15 GMT -5
Team needed reinforcements or to sell. They kind of sold but not really. Bleier sucks. But that being said I'm rooting for this team to get in but it’s going to be very difficult. They cannot lose Sale or Story once they return for any period of time. Those two are the deadline acquisitions so hopefully they keep their heads above water until they return. I’ll put my money on Urias being a bigger upgrade over the Red Sox second base pit than say Jack Flaherty would have been over their 5th starter/bullpen game group. I think the disaster at shortstop for most of the year had drawn attention away from how precarious second base was looking. Christian Arroyo had a 3.3% walk rate - lower than the even Javy Baez… Urias has had a 10% walk rate the last two years - at least now they’ve removed a quick and easy out from the bottom of the order. Which manifested last night with a Urias walk in front of Duran’s two run homer.
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Post by Guidas on Aug 5, 2023 10:55:47 GMT -5
Yeah. Could trade him in the off season still but teams will be less desperate. I totally understand not trading him but I also wanted to trade him. Rafaela could have been the spark this team needed. At this point though I'd wait till the offseason and sell high on Duran for a good young starter. No.
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Post by patford on Aug 5, 2023 11:22:52 GMT -5
Sox lead the majors in hard hit % in this span The Sox should have traded for some snake bite antivenom.
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Post by yuchangclan on Aug 5, 2023 11:54:58 GMT -5
Yeah. Could trade him in the off season still but teams will be less desperate. I totally understand not trading him but I also wanted to trade him. Rafaela could have been the spark this team needed. At this point though I'd wait till the offseason and sell high on Duran for a good young starter. Agree on Rafaela, but disagree on Duran. Why would you want to trade the best player on the team? I’m dreaming on a September of Rafaela batting 9th and Duran batting leadoff…only to realize it’s not going to happen.
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