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Post by Guidas on Aug 5, 2023 12:11:11 GMT -5
Line-upage
Duran CF Yoshida LF Turner DH Devers 3B Casas 1B Verdugo RF Urías 2B Wong C Chang SS
Schreiber O(pener)
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Post by incandenza on Aug 5, 2023 12:15:31 GMT -5
Rafaela could have been the spark this team needed. At this point though I'd wait till the offseason and sell high on Duran for a good young starter. Agree on Rafaela, but disagree on Duran. Why would you want to trade the best player on the team? I’m dreaming on a September of Rafaela batting 9th and Duran batting leadoff…only to realize it’s not going to happen. If someone wants to sell "high" on Duran I'm guessing they're looking at his .378 wOBA vs. .328 xwOBA and expecting regression. And he probably is due for some; he surely can't maintain a .407 BABIP, for one. So that doesn't seem crazy to me.
But I'd put a good amount of money on his being a regular xwOBA overperformer; that stat takes sprint speed into account, but there's no way it accounts for his turning-singles-into-doubles routine, which is something I've rarely ever seen even with the speediest players.
Plus he might still be getting better - after slumping in May he came back with a 105 wRC+ in June and 194 in July (and even better in August so far). And if he could improve defensively from atrocious to averageish in one off-season, who knows what he might do with another off-season under his belt?
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Post by julyanmorley on Aug 5, 2023 12:38:00 GMT -5
Guys I personally would like to sell high on this offseason: Chris Murphy, Brennan Bernardino
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Post by nomar on Aug 5, 2023 13:19:14 GMT -5
This place would combust if a Sox player didn’t hustle like this. Yankees are folding
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Post by remmartin34 on Aug 5, 2023 13:26:07 GMT -5
Rafaela could have been the spark this team needed. At this point though I'd wait till the offseason and sell high on Duran for a good young starter. Agree on Rafaela, but disagree on Duran. Why would you want to trade the best player on the team? I’m dreaming on a September of Rafaela batting 9th and Duran batting leadoff…only to realize it’s not going to happen. It absolutely should happen. Particularly if things are unfortunately not panning out by the end of August, in terms of the race for that last WC spot.
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Post by remmartin34 on Aug 5, 2023 13:28:29 GMT -5
This place would combust if a Sox player didn’t hustle like this. Yankees are folding So true, they are completely lost. Yet it is mind boggling to me that if they somehow manage to win against Verlander and the Astros today, and the Sox can't get the job done today.. We're once again in last place...
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Post by wildsox on Aug 5, 2023 13:34:30 GMT -5
Verdugo late scratch from the lineup
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Post by manfred on Aug 5, 2023 13:35:04 GMT -5
At least Civale is getting knocked around a bit by the mighty Tigers of Detroit.
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Post by jimoh on Aug 5, 2023 13:36:45 GMT -5
This place would combust if a Sox player didn’t hustle like this. Yankees are folding Has to be a physical reason.
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Post by jbuttah on Aug 5, 2023 14:01:06 GMT -5
This place would combust if a Sox player didn’t hustle like this. Yankees are folding Has to be a physical reason. Definitely, Stanton doesn't have the reputation of being lazy.
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Post by wOBA Fett on Aug 5, 2023 14:03:10 GMT -5
Sox have plenty of helium for another run if they can find a way to take 2/3 here.
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 5, 2023 14:11:55 GMT -5
As soon as we’re out on them they go on a run and as soon as we all believe they stink. So a hot run starts today or tomorrow
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 5, 2023 14:13:44 GMT -5
I’ll put my money on Urias being a bigger upgrade over the Red Sox second base pit than say Jack Flaherty would have been over their 5th starter/bullpen game group. The guy has 8 hits in 50 at bats. I'm not counting on him for anything. To me, he's a hope for the best, but expect nothing. Like Chris Sale. The Red Sox are quickly running low on time too. They needed a sweep here. Winning the series at least will be a huge help. Losing would be bad for their odds and getting swept will be catastrophic. and for the 1000 PAs before those 50 he was an above average player so I’ll take my odds
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 5, 2023 14:34:46 GMT -5
The guy has 8 hits in 50 at bats. I'm not counting on him for anything. To me, he's a hope for the best, but expect nothing. Like Chris Sale. The Red Sox are quickly running low on time too. They needed a sweep here. Winning the series at least will be a huge help. Losing would be bad for their odds and getting swept will be catastrophic. and for the 1000 PAs before those 50 he was an above average player so I’ll take my odds Like I said, he might be fine, but relying on a guy who has been anything but when you're already behind in the standings seems a bit foolhardy. I'd trust him next season in the Christian Arroyo role, but for the remainder of this year he could just continue to be snake bitten. He could also be what Kiké Hernandez is for the Dodgers as well. There's just nothing to point to an upward trajectory for this year other than past years.
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Post by pappyman99 on Aug 5, 2023 14:44:25 GMT -5
Rafaela could have been the spark this team needed. At this point though I'd wait till the offseason and sell high on Duran for a good young starter. Agree on Rafaela, but disagree on Duran. Why would you want to trade the best player on the team? I’m dreaming on a September of Rafaela batting 9th and Duran batting leadoff…only to realize it’s not going to happen. For me Duran screams someone to sell high on. Meh walk rates, high k rates and a breakout season on an unsustainable BABIP? I’m selling high on that
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 5, 2023 14:49:01 GMT -5
Agree on Rafaela, but disagree on Duran. Why would you want to trade the best player on the team? I’m dreaming on a September of Rafaela batting 9th and Duran batting leadoff…only to realize it’s not going to happen. For me Duran screams someone to sell high on. Meh walk rates, high k rates and a breakout season on an unsustainable BABIP? I’m selling high on that It all depends on what we’d get back. BABIP is high but quality of contact is elite. Dude has a 20.1% K-rate since June 1, which is really solid with his power. It isn’t unreasonable to expect him to be a 3-4 WAR player with 5 years of control. I’d need an Adam Eaton kind of return to trade him (Giolito trade).
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 5, 2023 14:49:27 GMT -5
Anyone know what’s going on with Verdugo??
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Post by radiohix on Aug 5, 2023 15:09:32 GMT -5
Time for our overpriced 3rd baseman to show up don't you think?
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Post by station13 on Aug 5, 2023 15:11:07 GMT -5
Interesting choices to use Schreiber to start the game. He has struggle for a long time.
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Post by station13 on Aug 5, 2023 15:11:27 GMT -5
Time for our overpriced 3rd baseman to show up don't you think? he is overdue.
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Post by wildsox on Aug 5, 2023 15:13:18 GMT -5
Schreiber sitting 93 so far. Does anyone remember how hard he was throwing during that dominant stretch last year?
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 5, 2023 15:14:37 GMT -5
So if the batter can be penalized for stepping into the batters box too late, and the pitcher penalized for throwing a pitch too late, why is there no penalty for the entire Blue Jay team to walk across the field and delay the start of the game?
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Post by taiwansox on Aug 5, 2023 15:14:55 GMT -5
Schreiber sitting 93 so far. Does anyone remember how hard he was throwing during that dominant stretch last year? 93-96, but he’s probably scheduled for 2 today, so I’d expect 92-93
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 5, 2023 15:15:32 GMT -5
Oh boy
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Post by ixnayexxus on Aug 5, 2023 15:15:39 GMT -5
Oh dear
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