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Post by rico6 on Aug 5, 2023 19:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by rico6 on Aug 5, 2023 19:12:18 GMT -5
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Post by yuchangclan on Aug 5, 2023 19:13:06 GMT -5
Dougie is definitely getting traded this winter. Sell high! Soooo…go back in time to 2020 and trade him then?
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 5, 2023 19:14:02 GMT -5
I dont know what's happened but this would be the 2nd time Verdugo has been benched for reasonable reasons in not that long of a time period. Easy to say after reading that quote but I'm ready to send Verdugo elsewhere in a deal this offseason.
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Post by Smittyw on Aug 5, 2023 19:18:35 GMT -5
Dougie is definitely getting traded this winter. Yeah def seems like that’s almost a certainty at this point I wonder if he’s pissy about Arroyo If there's trouble with Turner next, we'll know we have a ginger insurrection on our hands.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 5, 2023 19:23:08 GMT -5
I wonder if there is a disconnect between Cora and the front office. I wonder if there is a disconnect between reality and the front office. I don't wonder that Cora is losing the team
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Post by redsox56 on Aug 5, 2023 19:25:12 GMT -5
Verdugo has been bad for over a month now. I wonder if there's off field stuff that's going on that he's bringing to work with him.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Aug 5, 2023 19:27:42 GMT -5
Dugo calls Cora "our coach." Wrong sport, buddy. This guy definitely has a room temperature IQ. I find the whole thing amusing and some of these posts have me cackling. The SP.com crowd is killing it tonight.
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Post by redsox56 on Aug 5, 2023 19:28:49 GMT -5
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Aug 5, 2023 19:29:58 GMT -5
Hard to say which is worse. The end of the game, or the firestorm of horrible press that came after.
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Post by greenmonster on Aug 5, 2023 19:30:50 GMT -5
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Added: Whatever is going on with Verdugo, I pray that he gets everything straightened out and can return to the player we all love
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 5, 2023 19:32:37 GMT -5
Wasn't there a question of Verdugos's maturity or character when we acquired him?
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Post by soxfan06 on Aug 5, 2023 19:36:22 GMT -5
So we are a week out, but its an absolute blunder that this team held onto Paxton/Duvall and didn't trade Verdugo and Turner.
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Post by redsox56 on Aug 5, 2023 19:39:03 GMT -5
So we are a week out, but its an absolute blunder that this team helds onto Paxton/Duvall and didn't trade Verdugo and Turner. Yup, turned real sour. Real fast. Not sure why the Paxton was worth 4 times the qualifying offer at the deadline.
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Post by orion09 on Aug 5, 2023 19:42:11 GMT -5
*** WARNING - 100% Speculation *** I have no knowledge or inside information. Just reading between the lines. When I read this line from Cora..... "He was ready to play but he wasn’t available,” it makes me think that Verdugo showed up drunk or high and hence wasn't in condition to play.....further speculating this could have become a growing problem that is contributing to his second half slump. If this is true then I tip my hat to Cora & Bloom for keeping things internal as best they can. I also, tip my cap to Verdugo for saying all the right things and hopefully he has learned his lesson and everyone can move forward. If it is a bigger issue, I hope he gets the help he needs. *** WARNING - 100% Speculation *** Yeah this occurred to me after I saw the video of his post-game presser… his eyes sure look a little red to me. I’m sure we won’t find out until after Verdugo leaves the team, whenever that is, at which point someone in the Globe will spill the dirt
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Post by Guidas on Aug 5, 2023 19:43:17 GMT -5
I wonder if there is a disconnect between Cora and the front office. How quickly they forget: Cora a little less than a month ago: “At the end of the day, the place that we like is to play in October. It’s not about how many prospects you have or where your farm system is. They might be one or 30th, whatever. The one that really counts is how many games you win in October, how games you play in October. And that’s what we’re shooting for.”
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 5, 2023 19:51:29 GMT -5
Starting Schreiber and having go but one inning was a poor decision to my mind.
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Post by manfred on Aug 5, 2023 19:53:18 GMT -5
Wasn't there a question of Verdugos's maturity or character when we acquired him? Big time. But it is not to be discussed! Fangraphs’ scouting report still says they question his makeup, too.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 5, 2023 19:55:24 GMT -5
Sale extension was a mistake. His one real mistake. His over pay for Price was a major reason they got a ring. He got a lot of guff for over paying for Eovaldi too and that worked out well. I'm sure he would have also offered Xander more 2 years ago to extend him. I'm pretty sure he was the GM on Xander's first extension. Isn’t Dombrowski responsible for Bello, Casas, Duran & Houck? Maybe others? I was told that he trades all his good prospects away. Yeah, he gets a lot of flak for burning the system, but none of his trades have backfired. He tore down a paper tiger that was this Red Sox system and got talent in return.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Aug 5, 2023 19:57:53 GMT -5
Starting Schreiber and having go but one inning was a poor decision to my mind. It sure was. Schrieber did hurt the situation by dropping the pop fly, but the guy needs to have enough in the tank for at least two innings in an opener situation. Too much shooting from the hip right now.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Aug 5, 2023 19:58:28 GMT -5
Well, the inevitable drama to come will be more intriguing than so many of the games this bizarre season
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Post by cdj on Aug 5, 2023 20:04:01 GMT -5
Wasn't there a question of Verdugos's maturity or character when we acquired him? Big time. But it is not to be discussed! Fangraphs’ scouting report still says they question his makeup, too. No it can be discussed. It just can’t be compared to beating women, which you did. Can’t wait for you to compare his unprofessionalism to Rwandan genocide next
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Post by Guidas on Aug 5, 2023 20:08:06 GMT -5
Starting Schreiber and having go but one inning was a poor decision to my mind. It sure was. Schrieber did hurt the situation by dropping the pop fly, but the guy needs to have enough in the tank for at least two innings in an opener situation. Too much shooting from the hip right now. An opener should go the better part of once tgrough the order. At least, that’s the idea.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 5, 2023 20:11:57 GMT -5
I dont know what's happened but this would be the 2nd time Verdugo has been benched for reasonable reasons in not that long of a time period. Easy to say after reading that quote but I'm ready to send Verdugo elsewhere in a deal this offseason. Before it would’ve been trading from a position of strength. I dont think it would be this off season.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 5, 2023 20:13:31 GMT -5
I dont know what's happened but this would be the 2nd time Verdugo has been benched for reasonable reasons in not that long of a time period. Easy to say after reading that quote but I'm ready to send Verdugo elsewhere in a deal this offseason. Before it would’ve been trading from a position of strength. I dont think it would be this off season. Honestly I wouldn't be that surprised if he only brought back slightly more than beni.
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