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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 2, 2023 7:42:40 GMT -5
WILD CARD SERIES
Tuesday, Oct. 3
TEX @ TB, Game 1, 3:08 p.m. ET (ABC)
TOR @ MIN, Game 1, 4:38 p.m. ET (ESPN)
AZ @ MIL, Game 1, 7:08 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
MIA @ PHI, Game 1, 8:08 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Wednesday, Oct. 4
TEX @ TB, Game 2, 3:08 p.m. ET (ABC)
TOR @ MIN, Game 2, 4:38 p.m. ET (ESPN)
AZ @ MIL, Game 2, 7:08 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
MIA @ PHI, Game 2, 8:08 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Thursday, Oct. 5
TEX @ TB, Game 3 (if necessary), 3:08 p.m. ET (ABC)
TOR @ MIN, Game 3 (if necessary), 4:38 p.m. ET (ESPN)
AZ @ MIL, Game 3 (if necessary), 7:08 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
MIA @ PHI, Game 3 (if necessary), 8:08 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Thursday times subject to change depending on series scenarios
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Post by incandenza on Oct 2, 2023 7:56:04 GMT -5
Really wanted Seattle to make it; I'm going to be mildly annoyed by any of the six AL teams making the World Series.
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Post by bluechip on Oct 2, 2023 8:01:03 GMT -5
I used to really enjoy those one game wild card games. Nothing more exciting than win or go home baseball.
I appreciate the current format removes luck (somewhat), but single game elimination is the most exciting format in sports. That’s part of the appeal of March Madness.
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 2, 2023 10:32:38 GMT -5
Want This Team To Lose Power Rankings
1) Baltimore Orioles
2) Tampa Bay Rays
3) Toronto Blue Jays
4) Los Angeles Dodgers
5) Philadelphia Phillies
6) Houston Astros
7) Texas Rangers
8) Miami Marlins
9) Minnesota Twins
10) Milwaukee Brewers
11) Arizona Diamondbacks
12) Atlanta Braves
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Post by yuchangclan on Oct 2, 2023 10:43:41 GMT -5
As long as the Astros don’t win it all, I’m basically fine with any of the other 11 teams winning the WS. It’s also nice to see the Yankees not in there at all.
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Post by manfred on Oct 2, 2023 10:44:59 GMT -5
Want This Team To Lose Power Rankings 1) Baltimore Orioles 2) Tampa Bay Rays 3) Toronto Blue Jays 4) Los Angeles Dodgers 5) Philadelphia Phillies 6) Houston Astros 7) Texas Rangers 8) Miami Marlins 9) Minnesota Twins 10) Milwaukee Brewers 11) Arizona Diamondbacks 12) Atlanta Braves You mean you *most want the Os to lose? I can’t imagine hating them more than the Rays. I might hate the Rays more than I hate the Yankees. |
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Post by bluechip on Oct 2, 2023 10:50:42 GMT -5
The AL play side of the bracket has to be disappointing to the networks. Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, and White Sox would have probably been ideal for ratings.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Oct 2, 2023 10:56:54 GMT -5
Want This Team To Lose Power Rankings 1) Baltimore Orioles 2) Tampa Bay Rays 3) Toronto Blue Jays 4) Los Angeles Dodgers 5) Philadelphia Phillies 6) Houston Astros 7) Texas Rangers 8) Miami Marlins 9) Minnesota Twins 10) Milwaukee Brewers 11) Arizona Diamondbacks 12) Atlanta Braves Teams WS record: Milwaukee 0-1 Texas 0-2 Tampa 0-2 I would be ok with those three plus AZ, Minnesota. Teams I absolutely do not want to win: Toranto (hate almost as much as MDY) Houston Philadelphia LA Atlanta |
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Post by manfred on Oct 2, 2023 11:22:24 GMT -5
Want This Team To Lose Power Rankings 1) Baltimore Orioles 2) Tampa Bay Rays 3) Toronto Blue Jays 4) Los Angeles Dodgers 5) Philadelphia Phillies 6) Houston Astros 7) Texas Rangers 8) Miami Marlins 9) Minnesota Twins 10) Milwaukee Brewers 11) Arizona Diamondbacks 12) Atlanta Braves My order from least desired to most: 12) Rays — a pox on them…. 11) Miami — …and the rest of FL, too 10) Houston — they’ll always be cheaters 9) Diamondbacks — who cares? 8) Twins — still din’t care 7) Brewers — still bored 6) Braves — hard to hate, too boring to love 5) Blue Jays — I like Canada 4) Rangers — I’d like to see their binge pay off. 3) Orioles — would be a neat story. 2) Phillies — DD shows he is the Man. 1) Dodgers — Mookie. ‘Nuff said. |
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Post by julyanmorley on Oct 2, 2023 11:29:15 GMT -5
That is a putrid list manfred.
The Orioles, in addition to being a division rival, need to be eternally punished for tanking with $22 million payrolls for however many years in a row. It would be an unbearable karmic injustice if the young core awarded to them under such shameful circumstances ever won anything.
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Post by manfred on Oct 2, 2023 11:45:27 GMT -5
That is a putrid list manfred. The Orioles, in addition to being a division rival, need to be eternally punished for tanking with $22 million payrolls for however many years in a row. It would be an unbearable karmic injustice if the young core awarded to them under such shameful circumstances ever won anything. Meh. Why punish the fans and young players? That is a team with great tradition, and baseball is better when classic teams are good. |
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Post by incandenza on Oct 2, 2023 12:56:44 GMT -5
There is not nearly enough hatred for the Braves in this world.
1) Atlanta
2) Toronto
3) Tampa Bay
4) Houston
5) Texas
6) Baltimore
7) Arizona
8) Los Angeles
9) Milwaukee
10) Philadelphia
11) Minnesota
12) Miami
The range here is from loathing to indifference. There's really no particularly likable team for me in these playoffs. Mariners woulda been. Cubs or Giants woulda been. I'm sort of hoping for a really dumb WS between like the Twins and Diamondbacks to make the expanded playoff system seem as stupid as possible.
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Post by manfred on Oct 2, 2023 13:12:06 GMT -5
There is not nearly enough hatred for the Braves in this world. 1) Atlanta 2) Toronto 3) Tampa Bay 4) Houston 5) Texas 6) Baltimore 7) Arizona 8) Los Angeles 9) Milwaukee 10) Philadelphia 11) Minnesota 12) Miami The range here is from loathing to indifference. There's really no particularly likable team for me in these playoffs. Mariners woulda been. Cubs or Giants woulda been. I'm sort of hoping for a really dumb WS between like the Twins and Diamondbacks to make the expanded playoff system seem as stupid as possible. I still don’t get Toronto ahead of Tampa… why are they more hateable? |
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Post by asm19 on Oct 2, 2023 13:17:55 GMT -5
The AL play side of the bracket has to be disappointing to the networks. Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, and White Sox would have probably been ideal for ratings. If like the Twins and Brewers are both up in the ALCS over like, Houston and LA/ATL, does Rob Manfred send in Yaz Diaz to try to extend the series? Who is the MLB's Scott Foster |
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Post by incandenza on Oct 2, 2023 13:20:50 GMT -5
There is not nearly enough hatred for the Braves in this world. 1) Atlanta 2) Toronto 3) Tampa Bay 4) Houston 5) Texas 6) Baltimore 7) Arizona 8) Los Angeles 9) Milwaukee 10) Philadelphia 11) Minnesota 12) Miami The range here is from loathing to indifference. There's really no particularly likable team for me in these playoffs. Mariners woulda been. Cubs or Giants woulda been. I'm sort of hoping for a really dumb WS between like the Twins and Diamondbacks to make the expanded playoff system seem as stupid as possible. I still don’t get Toronto ahead of Tampa… why are they more hateable? Nepo babies. And I dislike Bo Bichette for reasons that are hard to specify. The Rays have at least a few fun players and have a little bit of an underdog quality about them; they play in such a bad stadium that they're almost pitiable.
It's close though. Catch me on another day and I might swap them.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 2, 2023 13:25:11 GMT -5
To spread around all this franchise hate is just so unhealthy. Just save it all for the Yankees  And sit back and relax and watch the postseason hate free. |
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Post by greenmonster on Oct 2, 2023 13:26:51 GMT -5
That is a putrid list manfred. The Orioles, in addition to being a division rival, need to be eternally punished for tanking with $22 million payrolls for however many years in a row. It would be an unbearable karmic injustice if the young core awarded to them under such shameful circumstances ever won anything. Who says the Orioles were tanking? Maybe they were just unlucky |
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Post by bluechip on Oct 2, 2023 14:49:13 GMT -5
The AL play side of the bracket has to be disappointing to the networks. Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, and White Sox would have probably been ideal for ratings. If like the Twins and Brewers are both up in the ALCS over like, Houston and LA/ATL, does Rob Manfred send in Yaz Diaz to try to extend the series? Who is the MLB's Scott Foster The championship series could be Rays Vs Twins and Brewers vs Marlins. The ratings fiasco that would cause… |
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 2, 2023 15:04:16 GMT -5
A couple of those years the Orioles were bad organically, which is is totally respectable. Before 2018 they went out and got Alex Cobb and Andrew Cashner, which weren't necessarily good moves but they definitely weren't taking moves.
The Braves are the most difficult from a fan standpoint. The organization doesn't deserve anything and that stupid chop needs to go away 30 years ago, but the players themselves are really great to watch.
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Post by scottysmalls on Oct 2, 2023 15:08:19 GMT -5
Rooting for Phillies/Dodgers and Astros/Rangers as the CS match ups because I think it's good for baseball when big markets are in it, more attention. Of that group I guess I'd root for the Rangers or Dodgers to win it all.
I'd also be happy with a Diamondbacks or Rays championship for totally different reasons.
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Post by kwodes on Oct 2, 2023 17:31:44 GMT -5
The AL play side of the bracket has to be disappointing to the networks. Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, and White Sox would have probably been ideal for ratings. nationally yes, but I think if you see a rangers/astros series that would have huge numbers in Texas and in that whole area |
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Post by bluechip on Oct 2, 2023 18:34:53 GMT -5
I personally would like to see the Baltimore come out of the AL. That is a good young team. They haven’t even been to a World Series in 40 years. And that franchise really has had a lot of rough patches going all the back to the St Louis Browns days.
In the NL, I guess the Dodgers? I don’t particularly care for them, but I like Mookie and really I have few strong feelings about any of this NL teams.
So I guess I’m rooting for the O’s?
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Oct 2, 2023 19:30:25 GMT -5
If you're a true Bostonian the top few should be automatic
1) New York (it's the MFY even if they didn't make it they're still numero uno)
2) Los Angeles (Beat L-A!!! and you call yourselves Celtics fans)
3) Houston (the Cheatstros)
4-5) Miami and Tampa (because Floriduh even though I'm in St Pete)
6-11) Arizona, Philly, Milwaukee, Texas, Toronto, Minnesota (order doesn't really matter now does it?)
12) Atlanta (somewhat insufferable, but attenuated Boston DNA)
13) Baltimore (they may have tanked but they didn't waste it and they have great O.G. history...and they didn't move Indianapolis in the middle of the night)
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Post by rhswanzey on Oct 2, 2023 19:41:53 GMT -5
I didn’t know these series were three consecutive games each. Pitcher usage will be very intetesting. What are the 1-0 teams going to do in game 2? Win and the series is over; push chips in too far to try to end the series, and game 3 becomes daunting.
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Post by ericmvan on Oct 2, 2023 20:42:23 GMT -5
I did a basic schedule adjustment based on the Win % of each division when playing outside their division. And that was:
.580 AL East 4.2
.535 NL East 1.8
.498 NL Central -0.1
.498 NL West -0.1
.475 AL West -1.3
.415 AL Central -4.4
The number on the right is the win adjustment for teams in that division. This gives the following overall ranking. I've added playoff seeds. Team Wins Seed
Atl 106 1
Bal 105 1
TB 103 4
LAD 100 2
Tor 93 6
Mil 92 3
Phi 92 4
Hou 89 2
Tex 89 5
Mia 87 5
Sea 87 ---
NYY 86 ---
Ari 84 6
ChC 83 ---
Min 83 3
Bos 82
Cin 82
SD 82
SF 79
Pit 76
NYM 76
Det 74
Was 73
LAA 72
Cle 72
StL 71
Col 59
ChW 57
KC 52
Oak 49
That's right, the 15th best team in MLB has the 3rd seed and is hosting the 5th best team, who has a 6 seed. And perversely, because of this, the 5th best team has an appropriately easy playoff schedule!
SOS in opponent wins for each team in this round, followed by their rank among all teams:
103 Tex (9)
93 Min (15)
92 Ari (13)
92 Mia (10)
89 TB (3)
86 Phi (7)
84 Mil (6)
83 Tor (5)
So there are really only three anomalies here: the wrong team has the home field advantage in the Blue Jays / Twins game, and the Rangers and Rays are facing much better competition than they deserve. And they're playing each other! It's hard to feel compassion for the Rangers given that a win in their final game would have given them a better-than-deserved bye. So it's very easy to root for the Rays to crush them.
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On a general note, that there were four super teams and 4 helpless ones is interesting. The entire NL advantage in interleague play was due to the AL having three of the four awful teams.
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