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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 23, 2023 21:51:14 GMT -5
Gee, wonder who is getting the ALCS MVP. Such a mystery.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Oct 23, 2023 22:19:34 GMT -5
Can the Astros hit 8 straight HR?
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Post by incandenza on Oct 23, 2023 22:20:40 GMT -5
You see a homer that goes a couple blocks past the left field wall and you think, 440 feet? 450? But no, 363.
The only ballpark dumber than Yankee Stadium.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 23, 2023 22:23:26 GMT -5
You see a homer that goes a couple blocks past the left field wall and you think, 440 feet? 450? But no, 363. The only ballpark dumber than Yankee Stadium. ![](https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20231024/67ae669ae791565121c8aa0c487efcb3.jpg)
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Oct 23, 2023 22:29:40 GMT -5
Nathan Eovaldi is pretty good
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Oct 23, 2023 22:30:50 GMT -5
Really feel like the Phillies or Diamondbacks are going to steam roll this Rangers team.
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Post by bluechip on Oct 23, 2023 22:32:35 GMT -5
Really feel like the Phillies or Diamondbacks are going to steam roll this Rangers team. The 84 win DBacks or the 90 win Phillies?
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Post by bluechip on Oct 23, 2023 22:33:42 GMT -5
The game is far from over given the adventures of the rangers bullpen But it’s looking good for everyone but Astros fans across the league right now It was over by the ninth, but Leclerc certainly made it look closer than it was.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 23, 2023 22:34:27 GMT -5
Congrats to the Rangers. They withstood a crushing Game 5 loss and went into Houston and shut up their home crowd. Strangely enough no Rangers or Astros home fan saw a victory. The Astros lost the 2019 World Series in a similar scenario and Scherzer started Gane 7 that series, too, not that Scherzer did anything particularly noteworthy.
It certainly didnt hurt that Adolis Garcia turned into Superman. The Astros had no idea how to get him out or even keep him in the ballpark.
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Post by Montana Lemonious-Craig on Oct 23, 2023 22:37:03 GMT -5
Imagine trading Jordan Montgomery for Harrison Bader, then signing Carlos Rodon for $162 million to replace him
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Oct 23, 2023 22:37:40 GMT -5
Really feel like the Phillies or Diamondbacks are going to steam roll this Rangers team. The 84 win DBacks or the 90 win Phillies? Moreso the Phillies assuming they win, but would still pick the Diamondbacks over the Rangers.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 23, 2023 22:40:32 GMT -5
Only good scenarios left: either Rangers vs. Phillies, which would be fun, or Rangers vs. Diamondbacks, which would make the whole playoff system look especially dumb.
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Post by bluechip on Oct 23, 2023 22:48:24 GMT -5
Only good scenarios left: either Rangers vs. Phillies, which would be fun, or Rangers vs. Diamondbacks, which would make the whole playoff system look especially dumb. DBacks have More wins than the 2006 world championship Cardinals. I still don’t understand. Do you want to go back to the 1960s, without playoffs and just gave a regular season that is pointless for all but three or four teams battling for the best record in each league? The current playoff system INCREASES the importance of the regular season, on the whole, since more teams are fighting for playoff spots and positioning.
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Post by keninten on Oct 23, 2023 23:07:20 GMT -5
Imagine trading Jordan Montgomery for Harrison Bader, then signing Carlos Rodon for $162 million to replace him I nominate this for Post of the Year.
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Post by Don Caballero on Oct 23, 2023 23:35:00 GMT -5
I like the Rangers, really good offense and I badly wish we had signed Corey Seager.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 23, 2023 23:50:35 GMT -5
Only good scenarios left: either Rangers vs. Phillies, which would be fun, or Rangers vs. Diamondbacks, which would make the whole playoff system look especially dumb. DBacks have More wins than the 2006 world championship Cardinals. I still don’t understand. Do you want to go back to the 1960s, without playoffs and just gave a regular season that is pointless for all but three or four teams battling for the best record in each league? The current playoff system INCREASES the importance of the regular season, on the whole, since more teams are fighting for playoff spots and positioning. So I have two issues with the current playoff system.
1) It's too many teams. Given the inherent randomness of baseball, there's just not going to be much correlatioin between who the best teams are and who makes it through playoff pachinko. When you have more teams, you make it more likely that the best teams won't come out on top, and make it more likely that a very mediocre team does. The Diamondbacks, for instance, had a worse run differential than the Red Sox.
2) The seeding does not benefit the best teams. The top two in each league get a bye, which is a big benefit in theory, but then they have a long break, which might or might not be a problem. What is definitely a problem is that it's better to be a 6 seed than a 5 seed, because you will almost invariably play the worse team in the first round: the weakest division winner rather than the strongest wild card team.
You don't want to go all the way back to just two playoff teams when there are now 30 MLB teams. I think the correct number is four playoff teams in each league; that keeps the most mediocre teams out. And two divisions in each league (having three doesn't even have a theoretical justification anymore) would prevent the weakest division winners from getting in. Plus four teams means one fewer playoff round, which means one fewer chance for stronger teams to lose, and also means they could do best-of-seven series in both rounds, which would also make it harder for better teams to lose.
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Post by pappyman99 on Oct 24, 2023 7:29:26 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the byes are bad. It’s literally a free advancement to the next round.
The top teams can also you know just win and not try to excuse their losses
Plus the Astros are kind of a counter argument, 7 straight ALCS.
Phillies possibly 2 straight World Series appearances
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Post by fenwaydouble on Oct 24, 2023 8:38:49 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the byes are bad. It’s literally a free advancement to the next round. The top teams can also you know just win and not try to excuse their losses Plus the Astros are kind of a counter argument, 7 straight ALCS. Phillies possibly 2 straight World Series appearances Right, but the Phillies are not that good - them going to back to back World Series would be exactly the kind of randomness that Incandenza dislikes.
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Post by yuchangclan on Oct 24, 2023 8:57:34 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the byes are bad. It’s literally a free advancement to the next round. The top teams can also you know just win and not try to excuse their losses Plus the Astros are kind of a counter argument, 7 straight ALCS. Phillies possibly 2 straight World Series appearances Right, but the Phillies are not that good - them going to back to back World Series would be exactly the kind of randomness that Incandenza dislikes. The Phillies ARE that good, though. They are just built more for the sprint than the marathon. That lineup is basically an all-Star team, as well.
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Post by ematz1423 on Oct 24, 2023 9:26:59 GMT -5
Right, but the Phillies are not that good - them going to back to back World Series would be exactly the kind of randomness that Incandenza dislikes. The Phillies ARE that good, though. They are just built more for the sprint than the marathon. That lineup is basically an all-Star team, as well. This is a good point, when you have a stud like Wheeler and another very good starter in Nola that's the beginnings of the type of recipe you need for post season success. Two front of the rotation starters gives you a shot in any series, especially 7 game series where you got those two going 4 of the 7 games if you set it up right. Add Bryce Harper going nuclear, Trea Turner remembering how good he is at baseball and Schwarber hitting home runs every game it seems. They've been well built for the post season this year and last. Only thing they're missing is a lights out 9th inning guy.
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Post by maxwellsdemon on Oct 24, 2023 9:34:19 GMT -5
So as far as layoffs go consider that the "best" team" sweeps the "worst" one in a 7 game series while on the opposite side of the bracket the series goes the full 7 games - result the "best" team has a long layoff to overcome. Now look at the NHL where teams play 4 rounds of best of 7 in a much more grueling sport yet no one ever complains about the Stanley Cu tourney. Even last year where the B's were upset, it was another top echelon team (LV) that won out. I'd like to see a balanced playoff of 4 rounds of best of 7 meaning 16 teams get in and with a reseed after each round to give a marginal advantage to those who fared best in the regular season. If that means cutting back to 154 or so game regular season so be it. More playoffs means more fan excitement and eliminating the short series gives the advantage back to the supposed better teams.
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Post by incandenza on Oct 24, 2023 9:37:05 GMT -5
Right, but the Phillies are not that good - them going to back to back World Series would be exactly the kind of randomness that Incandenza dislikes. The Phillies ARE that good, though. They are just built more for the sprint than the marathon. That lineup is basically an all-Star team, as well. I think people love their lineup because of all the dingers and hairstyles, but they were 10th in the majors in wRC+ and 12th in overall WAR. Whereas they actually led the majors in pitching WAR (but were only 6th in FIP, which I don't quite understand).
I think the Phillies are pretty legit; that's why a Phillies-Rangers World Series wouldn't be comically unjust. But they obviously aren't a better team than the Braves, who they beat. And now there's a 50/50 chance that the Diamondbacks, a team with a negative run differential, knock them out and go to the World Series. And that's the sort of thing that's going to happen more often than not with this sort of system.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Oct 24, 2023 9:53:21 GMT -5
Yes. very happy for the Astros to lose, but it isn't like I care bout the Rangers either. Sorry for any native Texans out there, but there isn't much that excites me about that state. LOL.
Regarding the playoffs system. Is it now time, with the balanced schedule, to just scrap divisions all together ? play the string and then you take the top teams and seed from there.
I might even be open to just 8 games each with each Conference team (112 games) and the remaining 50 you fill out by having the previous years playoff teams face each other from each conference and the non-playoff teams face each other (whichever portion works best). 4 game sets, less travel. Am i a genius or what ?
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Post by stunzisox on Oct 24, 2023 10:46:52 GMT -5
Relocated to Austin last year and there's a massive 'Stros presence here as you can imagine. Had a few couples over for sunday dinner and they were clad in full regalia. Quietly sat there drinking their tears as the Rangers stole the series back.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Oct 24, 2023 12:14:35 GMT -5
No Rangers' fans?? Dallas-Fort Worth isn't that far away. That would have brought some joy to the party, though perhaps a little friction also!
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