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Post by cdj on Mar 14, 2024 13:44:10 GMT -5
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 14, 2024 14:18:07 GMT -5
Well, I had something written out and proved myself wrong. I guess he's the definition of OK. Still only started 16 total games over the last 4 years so that will be interesting to see how he holds up. I'd caution against assessing the value of a player by how many starts he's made, especially a passing game proficient LB. Btw, Christian Barmore has made 11 starts in three years. I expect he'll hold up okay. Barmore is also going to be 25 and went 2, 3 and 6 games started whereas Brissett is going to be 32 and went 2, 15, 0, 15, 0, 5, 11, 0. Despite starting 3 games 2 years ago Barmore played in 10 games sandwiched between 17. But I don't think he'll have any problems. Beyond injury I'd worry if he gets worse as the year goes on like Judon (I think that's who I'm thinking of) whose sack numbers started drying up late in the season their first year here. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Mar 14, 2024 14:41:30 GMT -5
I'd caution against assessing the value of a player by how many starts he's made, especially a passing game proficient LB. Btw, Christian Barmore has made 11 starts in three years. I expect he'll hold up okay. Barmore is also going to be 25 and went 2, 3 and 6 games started whereas Brissett is going to be 32 and went 2, 15, 0, 15, 0, 5, 11, 0. Despite starting 3 games 2 years ago Barmore played in 10 games sandwiched between 17. But I don't think he'll have any problems. Beyond injury I'd worry if he gets worse as the year goes on like Judon (I think that's who I'm thinking of) whose sack numbers started drying up late in the season their first year here. I had assumed you were referring to the LB signed from the Browns with your "16 GS in 4 years" -- no? If so, what's that got to do with Brissett & Judon? |
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Post by texs31 on Mar 14, 2024 14:45:14 GMT -5
Reader to the Lions
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 14, 2024 14:46:09 GMT -5
Barmore is also going to be 25 and went 2, 3 and 6 games started whereas Brissett is going to be 32 and went 2, 15, 0, 15, 0, 5, 11, 0. Despite starting 3 games 2 years ago Barmore played in 10 games sandwiched between 17. But I don't think he'll have any problems. Beyond injury I'd worry if he gets worse as the year goes on like Judon (I think that's who I'm thinking of) whose sack numbers started drying up late in the season their first year here. I had assumed you were referring to the LB signed from the Browns with your "16 GS in 4 years" -- no? If so, what's that got to do with Brissett & Judon? Oh no, I was referring to Brissett in that CDJ was correct in calling him an OK starter. I was clearly giving unfair criticism, but left it with the worry that he has limited time over the last 4 years as a starter. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Mar 14, 2024 14:57:15 GMT -5
Cool. Got it now.
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Post by rasimon on Mar 14, 2024 15:01:34 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 14, 2024 16:27:27 GMT -5
WR Corey Davis coming out of retirement after one year, Jets will release him. That's an interesting option at X WR.
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Post by rjp313jr on Mar 14, 2024 18:11:56 GMT -5
WR Corey Davis coming out of retirement after one year, Jets will release him. That's an interesting option at X WR. If by interesting you mean boring, I’d agree. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 14, 2024 18:52:04 GMT -5
One positive to drafting Penix is that LT matter less
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 14, 2024 19:21:01 GMT -5
One positive to drafting Penix is that LT matter less That talk is banned, we ONLY allow the idea of drafting Drake Maye. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Mar 14, 2024 21:19:01 GMT -5
WR Corey Davis coming out of retirement after one year, Jets will release him. That's an interesting option at X WR. If by interesting you mean boring, I’d agree. He was a good # 2 X WR before two years playing with Zach Wilson. Reagor is currently our top X WR, I'd prefer DPJ but it's nice to have more options. We basically have to raise the floor before they draft, last time they didn't we overdrafted Strange and Thornton. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 14, 2024 21:34:56 GMT -5
Keenan Allen to the bears
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Post by Don Caballero on Mar 14, 2024 22:15:49 GMT -5
Keenan Allen to the bears Justin Fields having a rough offseason lol. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 15, 2024 7:23:54 GMT -5
At first I was disappointed in them not getting Allen but if the plan truly is to sit the rookie and start Brissett for most of the season then there really is no point in giving up a pick to acquire an old WR on a one year deal with a big cap hit
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 15, 2024 7:48:00 GMT -5
At first I was disappointed in them not getting Allen but if the plan truly is to sit the rookie and start Brissett for most of the season then there really is no point in giving up a pick to acquire an old WR on a one year deal with a big cap hit I don't know. I think Maye or Daniels would have been fine in year 1 throwing to Allen and Riddley. Caleb Williams will have DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. Bears are making all the right moves. They'll probably use their 2nd first round pick on an offensive lineman and really set up Williams for success. I might want to start watching Bears games. I want the Patriots to take a QB, but as of right now he should not start with how little the Patriots have done so far. |
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Post by cdj on Mar 15, 2024 8:24:11 GMT -5
At first I was disappointed in them not getting Allen but if the plan truly is to sit the rookie and start Brissett for most of the season then there really is no point in giving up a pick to acquire an old WR on a one year deal with a big cap hit I don't know. I think Maye or Daniels would have been fine in year 1 throwing to Allen and Riddley. Caleb Williams will have DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. Bears are making all the right moves. They'll probably use their 2nd first round pick on an offensive lineman and really set up Williams for success. I might want to start watching Bears games. I want the Patriots to take a QB, but as of right now he should not start with how little the Patriots have done so far. I think the general point is that I’m not sure how much that rookie QB will be playing in year 1, and thus how much of an impact will having Keenan Allen for that one season really have on him? Ridley would’ve been nice for sure, he’s not worth that money but we are gonna have to pay a suck tax on guys anyway so I wouldn’t have minded |
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Post by mobaz on Mar 15, 2024 8:49:59 GMT -5
I'm coming around on Mike Williams. No draft pick require, I like him better than Ridley, and younger than Keenan (though he seems like an old 29 if you know what I mean). Assuming ACL was "simple"
Also Vikings just moved up from 42 to 23 (trade with Houston), likely looking to move up further for a QB. How does 3 for 11 and 23 feel for anyone? Still a no for me if the Pats like Maye and Daniels similarly. But does likely mean McCarthy in the Top 8 or higher.
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Post by texs31 on Mar 15, 2024 9:01:51 GMT -5
Vikings get the 23rd pick from Texans. So they have 11 and 23 and many feel they are targeting a trade up for a QB.
So . . . what would make you consider it??
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Post by cdj on Mar 15, 2024 9:07:48 GMT -5
Vikings get the 23rd pick from Texans. So they have 11 and 23 and many feel they are targeting a trade up for a QB. So . . . what would make you consider it?? Those 2 picks and Jefferson |
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 15, 2024 9:08:24 GMT -5
At first I was disappointed in them not getting Allen but if the plan truly is to sit the rookie and start Brissett for most of the season then there really is no point in giving up a pick to acquire an old WR on a one year deal with a big cap hit I don't know. I think Maye or Daniels would have been fine in year 1 throwing to Allen and Riddley. Caleb Williams will have DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. Bears are making all the right moves. They'll probably use their 2nd first round pick on an offensive lineman and really set up Williams for success. I might want to start watching Bears games. I want the Patriots to take a QB, but as of right now he should not start with how little the Patriots have done so far. Possibly, they did just draft a tackle last year at #10 who had a good season from what I read and they've signed a lineman or two in FA. I am very interested to see what they do with their 2nd 1st rounder. You could make the case beefing up that defense can help Williams just as much as an olineman might but both seem very much in play when prior to the Allen trade I figured they may go WR there. |
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Post by texs31 on Mar 15, 2024 9:14:15 GMT -5
Vikings get the 23rd pick from Texans. So they have 11 and 23 and many feel they are targeting a trade up for a QB. So . . . what would make you consider it?? Those 2 picks and Jefferson I can never tell when you are serious, CDJ. Is that your way of saying your are absolutely convinced that Daniels or Maye is the guy? |
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Post by mobaz on Mar 15, 2024 9:14:20 GMT -5
Lazar
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 15, 2024 9:20:06 GMT -5
I don't know. I think Maye or Daniels would have been fine in year 1 throwing to Allen and Riddley. Caleb Williams will have DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. Bears are making all the right moves. They'll probably use their 2nd first round pick on an offensive lineman and really set up Williams for success. I might want to start watching Bears games. I want the Patriots to take a QB, but as of right now he should not start with how little the Patriots have done so far. I think the general point is that I’m not sure how much that rookie QB will be playing in year 1, and thus how much of an impact will having Keenan Allen for that one season really have on him? Ridley would’ve been nice for sure, he’s not worth that money but we are gonna have to pay a suck tax on guys anyway so I wouldn’t have minded My thought is the Patriots could have landed both if they really wanted to which I think would have been a phenomenal environment having a room of Allen, Riddley, Bourne and pop Douglas. Still, a singular weapon would be nice because I expect this 1st rounder to see some action. Whether it's an injury to Brissett, blow out win/losses or just takes over the job late in the season. I want this kid to have every opportunity to succeed and so far it seems like business as usual. Keenan Allen is a little older than I would like, but they're really setting it up so that they can't start a rookie QB. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Mar 15, 2024 9:22:26 GMT -5
I don't know. I think Maye or Daniels would have been fine in year 1 throwing to Allen and Riddley. Caleb Williams will have DJ Moore and Keenan Allen. Bears are making all the right moves. They'll probably use their 2nd first round pick on an offensive lineman and really set up Williams for success. I might want to start watching Bears games. I want the Patriots to take a QB, but as of right now he should not start with how little the Patriots have done so far. Possibly, they did just draft a tackle last year at #10 who had a good season from what I read and they've signed a lineman or two in FA. I am very interested to see what they do with their 2nd 1st rounder. You could make the case beefing up that defense can help Williams just as much as an olineman might but both seem very much in play when prior to the Allen trade I figured they may go WR there. Admittedly I'm not very well knowledgeable with their organization, but the main thing is that it looks like they're taking every measure to make sure Caleb Williams is setup for success. |
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