Patriots 2024 Offseason Thread

Here's what I don't get about trade down. 


So we move from the best spot we've had since Drew Bledsoe, get two coin flips (1st round WR/OT), move from a QB coinflip to a double-flip (Top 5 QB vs 2nd Round). And somehow in the future we're supposed to end up in a better position to get a QB? Last time we bottomed out with no QB we were still at 15. This team is not so bereft of talent that it should expect to be up at #3 again. The QBs this year are feast-or-famine types. We're not trying to convince ourselves Bo Nix is worth a high 1st, Maye/Daniels have plenty of tools to succeed and cause a team to succeed, or not. No one from next year looks like that yet, and if they do I don't anticipate we or anyone we get a 1st from will be close enough. So then we just end up paying the same thing we just got back to try for a coinflip a year or two later.

I'd say that's why there are so many QB busts and why so many QBs rise up ranking after the season. It's the we need one, so just take one who cares if it makes sense value wise.

You trade down potentially if you feel like I do, that Daniels and McCarthy aren't top 3 pick type QBs. Nevermind you have them in the same tier as 5 other QBs in this draft.

Per reports the Patriots are asking for the moon right now, example given Vikings two first, next year's first and a player. If that gets Vikings into top 3, can't we do the exact same thing next year with 2 first round picks?

Nevermind I have a feeling if we trade down, they have another QB they like a lot that they will target.

I'd only complain if there's a QB at 3 that they think is worth the pick and they still trade down, just to get more value. No way they should do that and I don't think they will.

In general I agree with you, this is probably as good of a chance they will get at getting that franchise QB without random draft luck. However, there IS a question if that guy will be there at #3. Williams is not falling and Washington picks before us. Drake Maye IS the guy, but if he isn’t there, then what? Daniels and lord help me McCarthy are very middling prospects, do you take one of them and pray for the best? That’s a terrible use of resources.

No it doesn't if you don't think a franchise QB is there at #3. Just compare 2020 and 2021 drafts, one has a ton of them all the way into 2nd round, even if low end type franchise QB, the other has one and tons of busts. Quality of the draft and who's available matters more than what draft pick you have. Look at where Mahomes went and the Chiefs trading up to get him as another example.

The chance to draft a franchise QB doesn't matter if they don't think the guys available are franchise QBs (or there is enough doubt that they want to hedge their bets). And, despite every other narrative, that will be why they trade down (if they do). If you believe otherwise, than you have ZERO confidence in the FO (so any decision they make should be questioned).

I'd also just add, if they DO trade back, you won't here the real reason why. Can't imagine the team saying "well, we didn't think he was valuable at 3 so we traded back and were lucky enough to get him". You'll, as we typically do, hear the "we would've taken him at 3 but . . ."

The Beast draft guide dropped today

Was he? He was a good/solid corner and got paid and treated like one. He was never a number 1 but was good.

Wonderful they made the password even more crazy.

Prepare yourself guys.

Bears better be right on Caleb if this is true. I'd have done it and taken Maye.

I mean, if Washington is so hot for Caleb that they'd make that stupidly rich offer, doesn't that signal a Daniels backup plan?