Patriots 2024 Offseason Thread

Eli was a .500 QB who sold fake "authentic game-worn" gear to his fanbase. Bad guy & okay QB.

That's fair on Daniels. He's more of a down field sprinter rather than some athletic, power runner. I can't think of a better comp, but it's certainly not Apples to apples.

Would you say Bo is more like Justin Fields? Admittedly didn't see much of him. I just get the impression he was just older and bigger than the competition.


Off-topic, but it really sounds like Daniels is going to Washington. Patriots beat guys are saying they'd be skipping to the podium if Daniels fell to 3. This makes me happy because I'm more of a believer in Drake Maye. With that said, if the Patriots really do believe Maye will be there, I'm a bit nervous they're listening to calls. Supposedly both Washington and New England were called about their pick and only Washington said, "not for sale". I personally respect it because if you believe in the QB and they hit then there's no number of draft picks that would be worth it. It sounds like the Patriots aren't completely sold and could trade out of taking Maye.

I don't even care if they love the player or not. I want them to take the QB. I don't think being in love with a QB matters all that much. The Panthers loved Bryce Young over CJ Stroud. The Bears loved Trubisky over Mahomes. The 49ers Supposedly loved both Mac Jones and Trey Lance. Bill Belichick loved Jimmy Garapollo.

Really can't wait for Thursday night.

Brian Baldinger (Baldy) doesn't have him #2 on his list:

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Plus, if everyone has Daniels at 2 and someone out of the blue has Penix who is being consistently ranked 5th... not to sure it's worth much weight. Penix could be 2nd best, but as of 4/23/24 there's a zero percent chance he is one of the first 3 QBs off the board.

Would be a disastrous decision.

So two things became clear(er) today.

1. Jayden Daniels is likely going 2.
2. The Patriots have been saying they are going to pick a rookie quarterback at 3 since at least free agency.

Daniels running reminds me of Boutte, he has great vision. He just picks the right paths and angles to knife throw college defenses.

No he's not Fields the College version or NFL version. Brian Hoyer with a much better arm meets like Russell Wilson. A much more physically gifted Purdy type. Former 5 star recruit, so he's a good athlete with a good arm. My questions with him, is in that offense you don't see him sitting in the pocket making all the NFL throws. Very good arm, highly mobile, excellent on the run throwing, very good runner. You can watch him go through multiple reads on the run, something you don't see a lot of QBs do. I just absolutely love what he does on the move. He struggled at Auburn playing with bad talent and coaching, something Fields never did. I saw somewhere the only QB to workout for every team in the NFL was Bo Nix. Makes sense, they likely wanted to see what he looks like in the pocket making every NFL type throw. If he can do that, watch out. 

I don't think anyone has a clue what the Patriots are going to do and that's the way they want it. It's like if Bill was here, multiple scenarios depending on what happens.

We've had this debate before and I just don't agree. I love Maye, but I'm also very high on Penix, Nix and Rattler. I like McCarthy, just not crazy high. I love the WRs at the top of the draft. Heck I'd draft Jayden Daniels if we aren't talking top 3 pick. Per reports to trade down they need a godfather type offer, like 3 first round picks is the starting point, plus more and a player. We just don't know who the Patriots player is at QB. What if it's Penix? What if it's Nix? I know what I would do, but there are multiple ways to build great teams. Let's see what they do. I'm crazy excited. 

I've got this weird feeling Wolf is going to be great, like Bill during the draft minus the head scratching crap. Like people think taking Rodgers with Farve is crazy, but it ends up being brilliant. That's what I'm choosing to believe!

I'm really struggling with the idea of taking a player with the #3 pick that, as a team, you aren't all in on (or "in love with" if mine is an improper translation). The #3 pick is:

- Obviously, using your biggest tool to add to the team at this point (whether you want to measure solely by player rank or by % of your draft cap)
- Supposed to be a "face of the franchise" type player
- In NE's case, be representative of the new way things are being done

And we're okay banking all that on a player just bc he fills a need (albeit the most import one)? Woof.

If they trade out and the QB they passed on ended up being special, the issue isn't why they traded down. It's why DIDN'T they love the guy? What is it about their evaluation that failed them?

Their execution wouldn't be the failure. The evaluation would be.

And to those whose reply is something along the lines of "Who cares. They screwed up by trading down", I'd ask you how to avoid the situation happening again (either trading down when the player they should want is right there or, the reverse, by staying and taking a player that they shouldn't take) when you refuse to identify the source of the problem.

And, again, I'd also add that I'd be stunned if ANY decision maker in the NFL approaches the draft (especially at the top) this way. We're asking them to act in a way that's the opposite of why they likely got (or have) the job in the first place. 

Almost 30% of Nix passes were behind the line of scrimmage and 65% were 5 yards or less. I'm not making crap up, that's exactly what you see on tape. Why most scouting reports will bring up Oregons offense, it was very unique. The biggest questions are that offense and how he looked at Auburn in a different one, not his age.

I have dreams at night of the Patriots sliding back, picking up an OT as part of the deal, and moving back up to land Maye.

I also have a sleep paralysis demon standing in the corner who looks like Penix.