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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 19, 2024 16:41:54 GMT -5
ESPN top 103, I used to love this done by Todd McShay, not sure who's doing it now. Using it now to just look at the strength of the draft per position. Tops WR 16 players, CB 15, DT 12, OT 11, DE/OLB 9, RB 7, QB 6, TE 6, ILB 5, OG 4, OC 4. So it's a good draft for our needs outside TE, but as Mobaz points out a ton of WR talent. The Onwenu article is basically just an opinion piece, only factual information is not much contract talk. The thing is we are replacing the GM, so that's rather normal. I might use the transition tag on Onwenu, Franchise tag could be about 20 million and usually players hate it. In a perfect world you'd want them to bang this out before free agency. You have to keep Onwenu, your task of nailing a QB, LT, TE and WR is hard enough. I'm not sure I agree. Clearly, sports radio likes to sensationalize and they could very easily be wrong. With that said, this is the kind of stuff I would be doing as an owner if I knew I wasn't going to retain a player. I would leak it early, get the general public used to the idea and then when it happens there's less upheaval because the thought has been planted. Or, if they see too much blowback maybe they take another look at the situation. He's a great lineman who is going to make big dollars. The Patriots already don't have a LT and to allow an upper echelon RT walk out the door when you have some of the most cap space to spend? That's inexcusable, unless this coming up year is a true tear down year. Still, I want to refer back to the trade deadline. Same as the Bloom "lets do nothing" deadline I thought that was weird and a telling sign of things to come. I don't think ownership trusted Bill to bring in the right talent to improve and/or didn't want to mortgage the future further when the season was clearly lost and they knew they were going to be replacing him at the top, or were nearing that decision. I think Kraft not commanding Wolf and Groh to trade guys away for assets was irresponsible. If Onwenu does indeed walk it's a failure in maximizing asset value. I suspect they'll use a tag on him, but in a trade I don't think he'll be worth as much. The other collateral damage now being the Patriots are picking 3rd when it could have been 2nd with 1 more loss. If you knew Onwenu or other guys were out of your price target in a lost season, you trade. This whole organization is getting a culture shock with the departure of Bill and the number of FAs and cap space they have. Our owner acts nothing like you would, your example in 2nd paragraph. You would be Jerry Jones, Kraft is the opposite of that. The information in the article came from the player, not some unnamed team source. They haven't even filled out the staff's yet, so no way they have a written in stone offseason plan today. Unless you have more information than I've seen, you keep projecting what you'd do onto our owner. I don't even see how he's involved in any of this, if was one thing said and one guy running with it. Then Boston Sports Radio doing what they do. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 19, 2024 17:35:11 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree. Clearly, sports radio likes to sensationalize and they could very easily be wrong. With that said, this is the kind of stuff I would be doing as an owner if I knew I wasn't going to retain a player. I would leak it early, get the general public used to the idea and then when it happens there's less upheaval because the thought has been planted. Or, if they see too much blowback maybe they take another look at the situation. He's a great lineman who is going to make big dollars. The Patriots already don't have a LT and to allow an upper echelon RT walk out the door when you have some of the most cap space to spend? That's inexcusable, unless this coming up year is a true tear down year. Still, I want to refer back to the trade deadline. Same as the Bloom "lets do nothing" deadline I thought that was weird and a telling sign of things to come. I don't think ownership trusted Bill to bring in the right talent to improve and/or didn't want to mortgage the future further when the season was clearly lost and they knew they were going to be replacing him at the top, or were nearing that decision. I think Kraft not commanding Wolf and Groh to trade guys away for assets was irresponsible. If Onwenu does indeed walk it's a failure in maximizing asset value. I suspect they'll use a tag on him, but in a trade I don't think he'll be worth as much. The other collateral damage now being the Patriots are picking 3rd when it could have been 2nd with 1 more loss. If you knew Onwenu or other guys were out of your price target in a lost season, you trade. This whole organization is getting a culture shock with the departure of Bill and the number of FAs and cap space they have. Our owner acts nothing like you would, your example in 2nd paragraph. You would be Jerry Jones, Kraft is the opposite of that. The information in the article came from the player, not some unnamed team source. They haven't even filled out the staff's yet, so no way they have a written in stone offseason plan today. Unless you have more information than I've seen, you keep projecting what you'd do onto our owner. I don't even see how he's involved in any of this, if was one thing said and one guy running with it. Then Boston Sports Radio doing what they do. It's apples and oranges. Jerry commands everything every year. In this instance you have a lame duck coach/GM who wants nothing more to win. Trading away assets does nothing for him. He's gone at the end of the year. Keeping Onwenu and winning 1 more game helps Bill and only Bill. Michael Holley is predicting they get a new GM before the draft because the Patriots are behind. Other reports state they'll wait until after the draft. I don't know what other developments there are, but if Groh and Wolf are calling the shots for now and they don't have the interest to retain Dugger, Brown, Uche, Onwenu then there should have been some asset collecting to help whomever comes in, if anyone does. I understand do nothing because the management staff is being over turned and you don't know what guys a new guy would prefer to retain, but in this one instance I'd rather Kraft step in because there was virtually no GM at the time. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jan 19, 2024 19:10:15 GMT -5
Eric Galko & some dudes discussing Shrine Bowl rosters. Good listen for draftniks.
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Post by rasimon on Jan 19, 2024 22:11:13 GMT -5
another option is to trade 2024 draft capital for 2025 draft capital. (1) that would give the new GM time to get his personnel team in place before he has to make big decisions (2) trading back should increase the total amount of draft capital that the Pats have. How much would their total draft capital increase by? That's less clear. There are a few different versions of the Jimmy Johnson trade value chart which seek to quantify the relative trade value of draft slots within the same year. Here is one www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp The rule of thumb for trading across years is to subtract one round for each year back that you trade. For example: a 4th round pick in 2024 is worth a 3rd round pick in 2025. But that discount rate seems way too large. If that were true then, using the link I provided you could trade 2024:16 for two 2024:40s (if someone had two picks pick 40s to trade) and then trade each 2024:40 for a 2025 round 1 pick. You don't know exactly which round 1 pick you would get but expectation is #16. So the result is you traded 2024:16 for two expected 2025:16s. That seems like a ridiculous discount rate. How could you explain that? (1) maybe the rule of thumb is just wrong, or (2) GMs need to produce immediately or they lose their jobs. So maybe they do have an extreme rate of time preference, or (3) when you trade picks within a year you know exactly which picks you are getting, but when you trade between years the party receiving the deferred picks does not know exactly which pick he is getting. He knows the round that the deferred pick will occur in, but not where in the round the pick will be. So maybe there is a very high risk premium attached to trading back a year. In any case there certainly is some (significant) rate of time preference between years. I highly doubt any team would trade 2024:16 for a 2025 round 1 pick straight up. By deferring draft capital you get more total draft capital, although perhaps not more discounted draft capital (using whatever the proper discount rate is). But maybe if a team really sucks they should be willing to defer adding talent in favor of adding more total talent. Going from really bad this year to just bad next year probably does not get you much. You still are not going to make the playoffs. A really bad team needs to maximize the total amount of talent they bring in and that may mean deferring the talent acquisition to get more total talent. |
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Post by rasimon on Jan 19, 2024 22:46:06 GMT -5
Been thinking about Round 2 WR if we go QB at 3. I've liked Brian Thomas but not sure if he falls out of the first round. Some have him as #4. Troy Franklin, Polk, Tez Walker and Xavier Leggett are intriguing to me, not clear they'd be #1 guys but it'd be nice to have someone that profiles above a #4 WR... I didn't like Ladd McKonkey, Xavier Worthy, or AD Mitchell as much as draftnicks. Never consistently stood out in the games I watched. Keon Coleman is #4 for some, 2nd round for others. He looked very trick-or-treat and I'd rather someone more consistent. Malachi Corley fits some recent success profiles, and might fall into the 3rd? Someone has to since there are so many intriguing options this year. It's really fat at the top AND in the middle, which is rare. Unless we get a FA QB, I'd be really disappointed if we don't come out with a WR and a QB in the top 3 rounds. I agree with a lot of your assessments. MJH is clear #1. Bowers (TE), Nabers, and Odunze are elite as well. I wasn't sold on Odunze as a top 15 pick, until I saw he ran a 4.34 and he has a 75% contested catch rate. Then Leggette and maybe Franklin. Both are really fast and had good production, but Leggette is a bit limited in his route running and Franklin can get bullied at the LOS. After that there are a bunch of guys: Brian Thomas, Keon Coleman, Tez Walker, Jermaine Burton, Tory Horton, and maybe Polk are good X-options. Roman Wilson, Corley, and Malik Washington are nice slot options. Not impressed with Worthy or AD Mitchell. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 19, 2024 22:47:32 GMT -5
Our owner acts nothing like you would, your example in 2nd paragraph. You would be Jerry Jones, Kraft is the opposite of that. The information in the article came from the player, not some unnamed team source. They haven't even filled out the staff's yet, so no way they have a written in stone offseason plan today. Unless you have more information than I've seen, you keep projecting what you'd do onto our owner. I don't even see how he's involved in any of this, if was one thing said and one guy running with it. Then Boston Sports Radio doing what they do. It's apples and oranges. Jerry commands everything every year. In this instance you have a lame duck coach/GM who wants nothing more to win. Trading away assets does nothing for him. He's gone at the end of the year. Keeping Onwenu and winning 1 more game helps Bill and only Bill. Michael Holley is predicting they get a new GM before the draft because the Patriots are behind. Other reports state they'll wait until after the draft. I don't know what other developments there are, but if Groh and Wolf are calling the shots for now and they don't have the interest to retain Dugger, Brown, Uche, Onwenu then there should have been some asset collecting to help whomever comes in, if anyone does. I understand do nothing because the management staff is being over turned and you don't know what guys a new guy would prefer to retain, but in this one instance I'd rather Kraft step in because there was virtually no GM at the time. Umm Onwenu not resigning report, not your take once again on the trade deadline. I thought the GM role has been defined? Since that report I haven't seen anything about GM interviews. So where is this GM crap coming from? Recent report or old one? |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 19, 2024 23:12:22 GMT -5
It's apples and oranges. Jerry commands everything every year. In this instance you have a lame duck coach/GM who wants nothing more to win. Trading away assets does nothing for him. He's gone at the end of the year. Keeping Onwenu and winning 1 more game helps Bill and only Bill. Michael Holley is predicting they get a new GM before the draft because the Patriots are behind. Other reports state they'll wait until after the draft. I don't know what other developments there are, but if Groh and Wolf are calling the shots for now and they don't have the interest to retain Dugger, Brown, Uche, Onwenu then there should have been some asset collecting to help whomever comes in, if anyone does. I understand do nothing because the management staff is being over turned and you don't know what guys a new guy would prefer to retain, but in this one instance I'd rather Kraft step in because there was virtually no GM at the time. Umm Onwenu not resigning report, not your take once again on the trade deadline. I thought the GM role has been defined? Since that report I haven't seen anything about GM interviews. So where is this GM crap coming from? Recent report or old one? I'm confused what we're talking about with Onwenu. If Onwenu walks, it was clearly a wasted asset. I don't suspect Kraft hadn't thought of firing Bill even by then, hence the no trades. I would have given Wolf and Groh the command to dump players for assets they felt weren't going to be within the organization. They are currently the defacto GMs as my understanding of the situation. Michael Holley was speculating (and said as much with no insider information whatsoever) that the Patriots are behind in the scouting for the draft and that January is late. What he suspected would happen is they'll bring in a GM who has his board in order, but again, purely speculation. The only reason I was mentioning him was that I found that to be an interesting perspective about being late on the draft board. Recently, according to Kraft (just Googling it now to see if there's been much update). It sounds that they're in no rush to name a GM. They're making collaborative decisions with Groh and Wolf leading the charge, but they're still interested in a GM and will be interviewing outside the organization. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 19, 2024 23:28:06 GMT -5
Umm Onwenu not resigning report, not your take once again on the trade deadline. I thought the GM role has been defined? Since that report I haven't seen anything about GM interviews. So where is this GM crap coming from? Recent report or old one? I'm confused what we're talking about with Onwenu. If Onwenu walks, it was clearly a wasted asset. I don't suspect Kraft hadn't thought of firing Bill even by then, hence the no trades. I would have given Wolf and Groh the command to dump players for assets they felt weren't going to be within the organization. They are currently the defacto GMs as my understanding of the situation. Michael Holley was speculating (and said as much with no insider information whatsoever) that the Patriots are behind in the scouting for the draft and that January is late. What he suspected would happen is they'll bring in a GM who has his board in order, but again, purely speculation. The only reason I was mentioning him was that I found that to be an interesting perspective about being late on the draft board. Recently, according to Kraft (just Googling it now to see if there's been much update). It sounds that they're in no rush to name a GM. They're making collaborative decisions with Groh and Wolf leading the charge, but they're still interested in a GM and will be interviewing outside the organization. Go back and read what you replied too, my comments on the report saying Onwenu won't resign, not the trade deadline. How are they behind? They kept all the guys who do the work and get ready. Bill wouldn't have jumped in till after the season and they hired Mayo within days. You need a staff so you can match the players to the system. I just don’t see how you're behind scouting the draft. That's likely why Kraft kept the two guys and basically made them co GMs. They have been scouting these players for years. That to me says what the other one did, these are our guys. Owner likely wants to see how they do, then pick one or move on. Not the biggest fan of this, but see above, it does have its benefits. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 20, 2024 11:39:17 GMT -5
I'd rather trade up, if Bears want to trade the right to draft Caleb Williams you have to be involved. With your 2nd pick, you are also primed to trade up and target a need late 1st to get the extra 5th year. This team overall has good depth, it needs difference makers. Marvin Harrison Jr. Is a difference maker. He's a rare safe pick at WR.
Now I can certainly imagine a few trade down strategies that could make sense depending on what you can get. Like taking a LT, but it would need to be a massive package and I'd certainly prefer more draft capital this year.
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Post by mobaz on Jan 20, 2024 13:31:32 GMT -5
A couple QB thoughts and stats
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jan 20, 2024 14:33:41 GMT -5
another option is to trade 2024 draft capital for 2025 draft capital ... If you listened to RKK say how miserable he is each week the Patriots lose, I doubt you'd suggest he would approve any efforts that aren't targeted to produce wins sooner than later. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Jan 20, 2024 14:34:43 GMT -5
Been thinking about Round 2 WR if we go QB at 3. I've liked Brian Thomas but not sure if he falls out of the first round. Some have him as #4. Troy Franklin, Polk, Tez Walker and Xavier Leggett are intriguing to me, not clear they'd be #1 guys but it'd be nice to have someone that profiles above a #4 WR... I didn't like Ladd McKonkey, Xavier Worthy, or AD Mitchell as much as draftnicks. Never consistently stood out in the games I watched. Keon Coleman is #4 for some, 2nd round for others. He looked very trick-or-treat and I'd rather someone more consistent. Malachi Corley fits some recent success profiles, and might fall into the 3rd? Someone has to since there are so many intriguing options this year. It's really fat at the top AND in the middle, which is rare. Unless we get a FA QB, I'd be really disappointed if we don't come out with a WR and a QB in the top 3 rounds. I agree with a lot of your assessments. MJH is clear #1. Bowers (TE), Nabers, and Odunze are elite as well. I wasn't sold on Odunze as a top 15 pick, until I saw he ran a 4.34 and he has a 75% contested catch rate. Then Leggette and maybe Franklin. Both are really fast and had good production, but Leggette is a bit limited in his route running and Franklin can get bullied at the LOS. After that there are a bunch of guys: Brian Thomas, Keon Coleman, Tez Walker, Jermaine Burton, Tory Horton, and maybe Polk are good X-options. Roman Wilson, Corley, and Malik Washington are nice slot options. Not impressed with Worthy or AD Mitchell. Mel & Field cover their Top 10 WRs in pretty good depth: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/first-draft/id304434112?i=1000642122432 |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 20, 2024 14:49:26 GMT -5
I want to see that first stat all plays outside the pocket, then broken down into pass versus run EPA. Are they excluding planned throws outside the pocket? Given Nix Washington tape and his 54 rushes on the year, something feels off.
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Post by costpet on Jan 20, 2024 21:53:11 GMT -5
The Pats had a chance to draft Jackson twice in the first round and passed to get a tackle and a RB. Nice job BB.
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Post by trajanacc on Jan 21, 2024 8:46:00 GMT -5
The Pats had a chance to draft Jackson twice in the first round and passed to get a tackle and a RB. Nice job BB. ~30 other teams passed on him too, including the Ravens at pick 25. |
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Post by costpet on Jan 21, 2024 9:38:55 GMT -5
The commentators at the time were predicting the Pats would take him. They were surprised when they didn’t.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 21, 2024 13:19:08 GMT -5
The Pats had a chance to draft Jackson twice in the first round and passed to get a tackle and a RB. Nice job BB. Those 2 guys helped them win a SB that year and they were drafting to win the SB so I’m not going to fault them for that even if those guys didn’t work out ling term. They were key contributors to that team. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 21, 2024 14:18:25 GMT -5
Tom Brady has won two Championships since that draft, bunch of picks you can complain about that shouldn't be one! The Harry pick is a much bigger mistake, one of those elite WR we all wanted might keep Brady here and win you another Championship.
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Post by trajanacc on Jan 21, 2024 14:24:09 GMT -5
The commentators at the time were predicting the Pats would take him. They were surprised when they didn’t. so? Who cares what commentators think or predict? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 21, 2024 14:53:11 GMT -5
Lamar Jackson is in his 6th year he's still hasn't won a playoff game with his arm. Last game almost as many yards rushing as passing, while no team has spent more draft picks on WR than the Ravens. 3 first round picks and countless others picks. Signings like OBJ. That's a hard formula to win a championship with.
Imagine what Tom Brady could have done his first 6 years if he got half the weapons Jackson has gotten. It's not the weapons, it's the QB.
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Post by rjp313jr on Jan 21, 2024 15:45:43 GMT -5
Lamar Jackson is in his 6th year he's still hasn't won a playoff game with his arm. Last game almost as many yards rushing as passing, while no team has spent more draft picks on WR than the Ravens. 3 first round picks and countless others picks. Signings like OBJ. That's a hard formula to win a championship with. Imagine what Tom Brady could have done his first 6 years if he got half the weapons Jackson has gotten. It's not the weapons, it's the QB. He probably would have won 3 Super Bowls |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 21, 2024 16:02:20 GMT -5
I'm confused what we're talking about with Onwenu. If Onwenu walks, it was clearly a wasted asset. I don't suspect Kraft hadn't thought of firing Bill even by then, hence the no trades. I would have given Wolf and Groh the command to dump players for assets they felt weren't going to be within the organization. They are currently the defacto GMs as my understanding of the situation. Michael Holley was speculating (and said as much with no insider information whatsoever) that the Patriots are behind in the scouting for the draft and that January is late. What he suspected would happen is they'll bring in a GM who has his board in order, but again, purely speculation. The only reason I was mentioning him was that I found that to be an interesting perspective about being late on the draft board. Recently, according to Kraft (just Googling it now to see if there's been much update). It sounds that they're in no rush to name a GM. They're making collaborative decisions with Groh and Wolf leading the charge, but they're still interested in a GM and will be interviewing outside the organization. Go back and read what you replied too, my comments on the report saying Onwenu won't resign, not the trade deadline. How are they behind? They kept all the guys who do the work and get ready. Bill wouldn't have jumped in till after the season and they hired Mayo within days. You need a staff so you can match the players to the system. I just don’t see how you're behind scouting the draft. That's likely why Kraft kept the two guys and basically made them co GMs. They have been scouting these players for years. That to me says what the other one did, these are our guys. Owner likely wants to see how they do, then pick one or move on. Not the biggest fan of this, but see above, it does have its benefits. I see, my main thing with going back to the trade deadline was that it was a waste of an asset if he does sign elsewhere. I'm re-looking at the articles and not seeing where the information came from a player? I just see that ESPN's Jeremy Fowler was reporting it, but not where he claims he got the information from. I'll admit the soundbite sounded good, but by now the why is escaping me and I can't find the clip. Normally, I would ignore the opinion pieces, but hadn't heard that perspective before. Unfortunately, without the why it's just empty commentary. I'm a bit perplexed though in naming a GM after the draft though, which Kraft has still maintained. So, Wolf and Groh are going to put in all this work to scout, draft and sign guys and then they're going to go outside the organization to hire someone above them? Can you imagine how awkward that would be for either of these guys? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 21, 2024 17:03:29 GMT -5
Go back and read what you replied too, my comments on the report saying Onwenu won't resign, not the trade deadline. How are they behind? They kept all the guys who do the work and get ready. Bill wouldn't have jumped in till after the season and they hired Mayo within days. You need a staff so you can match the players to the system. I just don’t see how you're behind scouting the draft. That's likely why Kraft kept the two guys and basically made them co GMs. They have been scouting these players for years. That to me says what the other one did, these are our guys. Owner likely wants to see how they do, then pick one or move on. Not the biggest fan of this, but see above, it does have its benefits. I see, my main thing with going back to the trade deadline was that it was a waste of an asset if he does sign elsewhere. I'm re-looking at the articles and not seeing where the information came from a player? I just see that ESPN's Jeremy Fowler was reporting it, but not where he claims he got the information from. I'll admit the soundbite sounded good, but by now the why is escaping me and I can't find the clip. Normally, I would ignore the opinion pieces, but hadn't heard that perspective before. Unfortunately, without the why it's just empty commentary. I'm a bit perplexed though in naming a GM after the draft though, which Kraft has still maintained. So, Wolf and Groh are going to put in all this work to scout, draft and sign guys and then they're going to go outside the organization to hire someone above them? Can you imagine how awkward that would be for either of these guys? It's basically an opinion using the player saying while there's been talk about a new deal, there hasn't been anything serious. There's no unnamed team sources or anything like that. It's your standard click bait news article we get daily. If he gets a big deal and leaves, you can get a high comp pick, depending on other factors. He's probably the most important free agent you have. Let's wait to just before free agency, you'll have better information by then. I haven't seen Kraft say that, just that he'd interview people. Like I said before I think it's a test. You have to interview guys outside organization even if you will promote those guys given Rooney rule. Now if I'm wrong, then Kraft is an idiot. If Kraft doesn't feel one of those two can be a good GM, he should have hired a GM first thing. Then again, most GMs want control and Kraft is creating a situation most wouldn't like. They want to pick the coach and build their staff's. What I want to know is how this works? How do you decide who to pick and sign? We going to have the two co GMs and Mayo with one vote each? |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jan 21, 2024 22:01:43 GMT -5
Interesting they don't want Steve Belichick as DC, either assistant HC or advisor.
Covington seems to be leading the way to DC, which I like.
Former TE coach who spent last year with Rams to interview for OC, along with Robinson from Rams. I certainly don't mind our old TE coach who learned under McDaniels then a year under McVay system.
Mayo if these reports are true is very much acting like Bill, promote from within and bring back guys you know
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jan 22, 2024 23:06:06 GMT -5
I see, my main thing with going back to the trade deadline was that it was a waste of an asset if he does sign elsewhere. I'm re-looking at the articles and not seeing where the information came from a player? I just see that ESPN's Jeremy Fowler was reporting it, but not where he claims he got the information from. I'll admit the soundbite sounded good, but by now the why is escaping me and I can't find the clip. Normally, I would ignore the opinion pieces, but hadn't heard that perspective before. Unfortunately, without the why it's just empty commentary. I'm a bit perplexed though in naming a GM after the draft though, which Kraft has still maintained. So, Wolf and Groh are going to put in all this work to scout, draft and sign guys and then they're going to go outside the organization to hire someone above them? Can you imagine how awkward that would be for either of these guys? It's basically an opinion using the player saying while there's been talk about a new deal, there hasn't been anything serious. There's no unnamed team sources or anything like that. It's your standard click bait news article we get daily. If he gets a big deal and leaves, you can get a high comp pick, depending on other factors. He's probably the most important free agent you have. Let's wait to just before free agency, you'll have better information by then. I haven't seen Kraft say that, just that he'd interview people. Like I said before I think it's a test. You have to interview guys outside organization even if you will promote those guys given Rooney rule. Now if I'm wrong, then Kraft is an idiot. If Kraft doesn't feel one of those two can be a good GM, he should have hired a GM first thing. Then again, most GMs want control and Kraft is creating a situation most wouldn't like. They want to pick the coach and build their staff's. What I want to know is how this works? How do you decide who to pick and sign? We going to have the two co GMs and Mayo with one vote each? Is that what it is? It just seemed like an ambiguous quote that was alluding to some insider rumblings. I anything indicating where they got that from. It's my understanding they're not going to get any comp picks for their free agents based on the assumption they're going to use their available cap space. I'm going off the Jerrod presser where he mentioned they were looking outside the organization. Here's a twitter page that recaps key quotes. They're going to go with the collaborative effort now and look outside the organization, but wants to first develop the culture from within. Though I guess it is rather ambiguous. I would think he would just say he trusts the guys they have now and keep the position in-house. He made a point about external interviews. I'm wondering if they have a bit of a Red Sox situation going where Kraft had some people in mind, but they declined for one reason or another. Pure speculation on my part. I can see a GM saying, "I don't even get to pick my coach and all my moves have to be surrounding players that fits the style of said rookie coach? Not to mention I have no QB and I'm going to have to stick my reputation on a rookie QB who will very likely be the 3rd best option? I'm good". |
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