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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 11:17:32 GMT -5
They shopped the pick not knowing who was going to be there at 3, If I was Washington I would have taken Maye #2 and I wouldn't have wanted to draft Daniels at #3. So you need to be prepared.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 11:21:05 GMT -5
They shopped the pick not knowing who was going to be there at 3, If I was Washington I would have taken Maye #2 and I wouldn't have wanted to draft Daniels at #3. So you need to be prepared. Also, they didn’t really “shop the pick”, they said we will listen but you have to give us a ridiculous package for us to move it. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 11:21:58 GMT -5
Can someone explain the practice squad to me? What is the purpose of it if another team can sign your guys off of it? Needed depth for a sport with high injury rates. You can sign guys off of if to your 53 man roster, it doesn't happen that often. Why? Because they are fringe players usually and they spend months getting ready to play for one team. Usually their best shot at playing is with the teams who's practice squad they play on. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 27, 2024 11:29:01 GMT -5
I think the plan was to get Zappe and Milton a bunch of snaps. I don’t think they were “surprised” the guy they happily picked 3rd was good They were actively shopping the pick for multiple first rounders, they’ve been leaking to the media that Drake is further behind they they thought all summer, and yes, they failed to evaluate Drake because they decided to give a sub par quarterback the majority of reps in a preseason game. Wake up! This team seems disorganized and incompetent. I can believe the narrative of Bill being asked to take a QB if available and Bill not being overly impressed with the class and just took Mac because he was there. Has some talent, highly accurate, and this would make the boss happy and there's a legit need for the position. Fine, I'll buy it. You don't do that with the 3rd pick in the draft. Up until probably the combine everyone said it's Caleb Then Maye Then the field To which Daniels just shot up everyone's board and became the 2nd pick. The Vikings and Giants both tried to trade up for the 3rd pick and were both denied. The Patriots probably wanted to see if someone would be willing to go completely insane and offer more than a kings ransom. |
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Post by rasimon on Aug 27, 2024 11:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by philarhody on Aug 27, 2024 11:32:51 GMT -5
They were actively shopping the pick for multiple first rounders, they’ve been leaking to the media that Drake is further behind they they thought all summer, and yes, they failed to evaluate Drake because they decided to give a sub par quarterback the majority of reps in a preseason game. Wake up! This team seems disorganized and incompetent. i think this is an absolutely preposterous take They wouldn’t have taken him at 3 if they didn’t want him and didn’t believe in him! Telling me to wake up while spewing chemtrails level conspiracy nonsense. Up there with “Jordan Walsh is the best defender on the Celtics” I’m glad you are keeping the receipt on a bad take of mine. Chemtrails level nonsense? They’ve mismanaged the beginning of this era. That is not a hot take or conspiracy theory. |
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Post by philarhody on Aug 27, 2024 11:34:18 GMT -5
They were actively shopping the pick for multiple first rounders, they’ve been leaking to the media that Drake is further behind they they thought all summer, and yes, they failed to evaluate Drake because they decided to give a sub par quarterback the majority of reps in a preseason game. Wake up! This team seems disorganized and incompetent. I can believe the narrative of Bill being asked to take a QB if available and Bill not being overly impressed with the class and just took Mac because he was there. Has some talent, highly accurate, and this would make the boss happy and there's a legit need for the position. Fine, I'll buy it. You don't do that with the 3rd pick in the draft. Up until probably the combine everyone said it's Caleb Then Maye Then the field To which Daniels just shot up everyone's board and became the 2nd pick. The Vikings and Giants both tried to trade up for the 3rd pick and were both denied. The Patriots probably wanted to see if someone would be willing to go completely insane and offer more than a kings ransom. From what I understand, they wanted a third first round pick. Giants offered the 6th pick and next years pick and wouldn’t go any further. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 27, 2024 11:37:57 GMT -5
I can believe the narrative of Bill being asked to take a QB if available and Bill not being overly impressed with the class and just took Mac because he was there. Has some talent, highly accurate, and this would make the boss happy and there's a legit need for the position. Fine, I'll buy it. You don't do that with the 3rd pick in the draft. Up until probably the combine everyone said it's Caleb Then Maye Then the field To which Daniels just shot up everyone's board and became the 2nd pick. The Vikings and Giants both tried to trade up for the 3rd pick and were both denied. The Patriots probably wanted to see if someone would be willing to go completely insane and offer more than a kings ransom. From what I understand, they wanted a third first round pick. Giants offered the 6th pick and next years pick and wouldn’t go any further. For moving back 3 spots that's a really nice trade if you don't believe in the QB. They would have still been able to get JJ, Penix, Nix or took a shot later on with Spencer Rattler (which I really wanted them to take both Maye and Rattler). They also could have drafted MHJ at the 3rd pick if they really didn't like any of the QBs. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 27, 2024 11:40:44 GMT -5
i think this is an absolutely preposterous take They wouldn’t have taken him at 3 if they didn’t want him and didn’t believe in him! Telling me to wake up while spewing chemtrails level conspiracy nonsense. Up there with “Jordan Walsh is the best defender on the Celtics” I’m glad you are keeping the receipt on a bad take of mine. Chemtrails level nonsense? They’ve mismanaged the beginning of this era. That is not a hot take or conspiracy theory. Yes, you acting like they basically dont want Maye is chemtrails level nonsense. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 27, 2024 11:41:42 GMT -5
Reports are that Slye won the kicker battle
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Aug 27, 2024 11:42:53 GMT -5
Can someone explain the practice squad to me? What is the purpose of it if another team can sign your guys off of it? Needed depth for a sport with high injury rates. You can sign guys off of if to your 53 man roster, it doesn't happen that often. Why? Because they are fringe players usually and they spend months getting ready to play for one team. Usually their best shot at playing is with the teams who's practice squad they play on. As you know as well as anyone there are some really bad teams that can sign interesting guys off practice squads from good teams though. I’m not sure how thats fair to good teams. |
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Aug 27, 2024 11:43:23 GMT -5
Reports are that Slye won the kicker battle That slye devil. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 27, 2024 11:48:50 GMT -5
Needed depth for a sport with high injury rates. You can sign guys off of if to your 53 man roster, it doesn't happen that often. Why? Because they are fringe players usually and they spend months getting ready to play for one team. Usually their best shot at playing is with the teams who's practice squad they play on. As you know as well as anyone there are some really bad teams that can sign interesting guys off practice squads from good teams though. I’m not sure how thats fair to good teams. They all have to hit the waiver wire to get to the PS anyway- those bad teams have already passed on all those players before |
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Post by philarhody on Aug 27, 2024 11:51:35 GMT -5
I’m glad you are keeping the receipt on a bad take of mine. Chemtrails level nonsense? They’ve mismanaged the beginning of this era. That is not a hot take or conspiracy theory. Yes, you acting like they basically dont want Maye is chemtrails level nonsense. Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. I never said they don’t want him. I’m saying that they are mismanaging a franchise quarterback. That’s a big difference, but still a potentially fireable offense and damaging to any locker room culture. |
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Post by philarhody on Aug 27, 2024 11:56:32 GMT -5
From what I understand, they wanted a third first round pick. Giants offered the 6th pick and next years pick and wouldn’t go any further. For moving back 3 spots that's a really nice trade if you don't believe in the QB. They would have still been able to get JJ, Penix, Nix or took a shot later on with Spencer Rattler (which I really wanted them to take both Maye and Rattler). They also could have drafted MHJ at the 3rd pick if they really didn't like any of the QBs. It’s a pretty decent trade. But the context matters. Drake Maye was a much better prospect than Bryce Young, who fetched 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a 1,000 yard receiver in DJ Moore. My guess is that New England would have jumped for such an offer, being that they wanted a third first from New York. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 12:01:34 GMT -5
I’m glad you are keeping the receipt on a bad take of mine. Chemtrails level nonsense? They’ve mismanaged the beginning of this era. That is not a hot take or conspiracy theory. Yes, you acting like they basically dont want Maye is chemtrails level nonsense. Are chemtrails nonsense? |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 27, 2024 12:03:38 GMT -5
OMG with the "they are mismanaging" already. Here I am all fired up for football season (only 9 days away if you hadn't heard!) & the Patriots thread is filled with aggrieved proclamations of incompetence based on the flimsiest of evidence. It's like an episode of sh*t talk radio ("What has you angry today, Caller?") or as if Trenni & Tanguay & Mr. Almost a Coach got loose in here.
Is there no sanctity anywhere? Is no forum safe? Someone shoot me please.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 12:03:54 GMT -5
Needed depth for a sport with high injury rates. You can sign guys off of if to your 53 man roster, it doesn't happen that often. Why? Because they are fringe players usually and they spend months getting ready to play for one team. Usually their best shot at playing is with the teams who's practice squad they play on. As you know as well as anyone there are some really bad teams that can sign interesting guys off practice squads from good teams though. I’m not sure how thats fair to good teams. Players don’t get the same level of pay on the practice squad so why does it need to be fair to the team? Pay the guy more money and roster him and you don’t have to worry about “fair”. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 12:05:11 GMT -5
OMG with the "they are mismanaging" already. Here I am all fired up for football season (only 9 days away if you hadn't heard!) & the Patriots thread is filled with aggrieved proclamations of incompetence based on the flimsiest of evidence. It's like an episode of sh*t talk radio ("What has you angry today, Caller?") or as if Trenni & Tanguay & Mr. Almost a Coach got loose in here. Is there no sanctity anywhere? Is no forum safe? Someone shoot me please. Agreed, all we’ve seen is huge improvements from Maye, if that’s mismanaged then keep up the good work. Maybe they’ve mismanaged media/fan expectations? But that’s pretty low on my priority list. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 12:05:47 GMT -5
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 12:36:10 GMT -5
Needed depth for a sport with high injury rates. You can sign guys off of if to your 53 man roster, it doesn't happen that often. Why? Because they are fringe players usually and they spend months getting ready to play for one team. Usually their best shot at playing is with the teams who's practice squad they play on. As you know as well as anyone there are some really bad teams that can sign interesting guys off practice squads from good teams though. I’m not sure how thats fair to good teams. As CDJ said those guys get claimed before hitting practice squad, why you see so few teams signing other teams practice squad players. It's by design, want to keep guys put them on 53 man roster. It's why you see a bunch of trades around cut down day, teams get value for guys who will get claimed. NFL wants parity as much as possible and it's best for the players. Example players association just axed the NFL new rule of unlimited call ups for QBs on the practice squad. Why? They worried teams would carry less QBs on 53 man roster and thus QBs would get less money. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 12:38:21 GMT -5
Ryland waved, so RJP wins which kicker will they keep contest.
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Post by Don Caballero on Aug 27, 2024 13:32:14 GMT -5
Everything the Patriots have done is to basically make it harder for Maye to start game 1. You only do that if you know how good he is and that in a legit QB competition he easily wins. Which I agree with, especially with this OL and the opening teams we face. Mayo just didn't handle it words wise well with the press. That first game was about getting Mayes feet wet and not risking injury due to weather and OL. Go look at McCarthy getting 30 snaps, cost him the season. Yeah, this is my main issue with what Mayo said. You can't say it's a competition and the best guy is winning it, Maye is OBVIOUSLY the best guy. But you can't throw him out there behind this Oline, you don't want an Andrew Luck situation. |
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Post by cdj on Aug 27, 2024 13:35:01 GMT -5
Yes, you acting like they basically dont want Maye is chemtrails level nonsense. Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. I never said they don’t want him. I’m saying that they are mismanaging a franchise quarterback. That’s a big difference, but still a potentially fireable offense and damaging to any locker room culture. bUt tHeY wErE ShOpPinG tHe PiCk aNd gAvE ZaPpE sNaPs oVeR hIM (in one preseason game, in a game with shit weather and a shit line) He’s probably not going to start the season. He shouldn’t start the season imo. They are making the right decision. Drake Maye isn’t dumb, he knows what’s going on and I’m sure he understands the situation. All the rest of the noise is radio fodder. It’s inconsequential. Idc what Mayo says, he says a lot of shit. What matters is it looks like the kid is coming along well so far. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 13:55:51 GMT -5
They’ve cut 30, 7 more to go?
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