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Patriots 2024 Offseason Thread
rasimon
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Post by rasimon on Aug 27, 2024 14:15:03 GMT -5
Shawn Wade released
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 14:17:41 GMT -5
Wade was just cut, this next part is when it starts to get more painful. Unless the next cut is Lowe lol.
Wade, Zappe and maybe Ryland could be claimed. Maybe Watts as a veteran, but he most have been horrible to get cut so early.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 14:29:56 GMT -5
It’s a good time to remind ourselves that this is one of the worst teams in football, not likely too many of our cuts are desirable around the league. Teams are more apt to keep one of their own guys they’ve been working with than add one of ours who can’t make this crappy team.
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 14:38:55 GMT -5
 Mafi Hill Reagor With the PUP/IR moves would be my choices |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 14:43:11 GMT -5
It’s a good time to remind ourselves that this is one of the worst teams in football, not likely too many of our cuts are desirable around the league. Teams are more apt to keep one of their own guys they’ve been working with than add one of ours who can’t make this crappy team. Wasn't it you using end of last year as proof the D could be really good? This team has positions with very good to great talent level and it has some with very bad talent level. The CB group is really good. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 15:05:07 GMT -5
It’s a good time to remind ourselves that this is one of the worst teams in football, not likely too many of our cuts are desirable around the league. Teams are more apt to keep one of their own guys they’ve been working with than add one of ours who can’t make this crappy team. Wasn't it you using end of last year as proof the D could be really good? This team has positions with very good to great talent level and it has some with very bad talent level. The CB group is really good. Yes it was me. There may be one or 2 cuts that could interest a team. I didn’t say none. |
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Post by rjp313jr on Aug 27, 2024 15:05:59 GMT -5
Mafi out- was an obvious one. I’d still practice squad him
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Post by texs31 on Aug 27, 2024 15:18:33 GMT -5
Boutte on initial 53.
Barmore and Mapu to IR DTR
Takitaki joins Bourne and Strange on PUP.
Looks like Watts and Anderson to IR but I think their season is over (unless ultimately waived with a settlement).
Edit - I guess Barmore is NFI but same principle (Designated to Return).
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Post by texs31 on Aug 27, 2024 15:27:10 GMT -5
Initial 53
QB - Brissett, Maye and Milton
RB - Stevenson, Gibson and Hasty
WR - Douglas, Polk, Thornton, Osborn, Boutte, Reagor, Baker
TE - Henry, Hooper, Bell
IOL - Andrews, Onwenu, Sow, Okorafor, Lowe, Robinson, Wallace, Leverett, Jordan
IDL - Godchaux, Wise, Ekuale, Pharms, Hill
ED - White, Uche, Jennings, Ximines
LB - Bentley, Tavaii, McMillan, Elliss
CB - Gonzalez, J Jones, M Jones, Austin, Bolden, Wilson, Dial
S - Duggger, Peppers, Hawkins, Schooler, Pettus
ST - Slye, Baringer, Cardona
PUP - Bourne, Strange, Takitaki
IR - Mapu (DTR), Watts, Anderson
NFI - Barmore (DTR)
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 15:35:47 GMT -5
If they get the right people to PS it's a good job. If I was Michael Jordan I wouldn't unpack just yet.
One thing, they kept every draft pick and while you hate to cut recent picks, Dial didn't earn a roster spot, neither did Milton. I'd say the same thing with Reagor also.
Glad to see Pettus make, new undrafted streak and he deserved to make it per reports.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 15:39:08 GMT -5
Is Mafi a good fit for a zone attack like we currently play? The problem going gap zone, to power run to outside zone system in 3 years and drafting players to fit each year.
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Post by mobaz on Aug 27, 2024 16:23:08 GMT -5
La'el Collins released by the Bills. I'm assuming he must have nothing left but he played well 2 years ago for the Bengals.
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Post by cdj on Aug 27, 2024 16:42:46 GMT -5
This will be the guy they claim
Started 9 games in Cleveland last year
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Post by rasimon on Aug 27, 2024 17:03:55 GMT -5
Yeah Geron Christian would fit right in with Lowe and Mafi and Anderson and Wheatley and ..were they still here ie he is not good.
La'el Collins plays RT. He was good maybe very good in 2018 and 2019. 2020 he injured his neck in a car accident. He also had hip and groin injuries and missed the whole year. 2021 he was very good again. 2022 he started the year with back problems, and did not play up to his normal standards. Then in week 16 against the Pats he tore his ACL and MCL. He did not play in 2023. 2024 Dallas signed him in Jan but released him less than a month later. Bills signed him in April and just released him. Certainly worth a look.
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Post by cdj on Aug 27, 2024 17:40:04 GMT -5
Yeah Geron Christian would fit right in with Lowe and Mafi and Anderson and Wheatley and ..were they still here ie he is not good. La'el Collins plays RT. He was good maybe very good in 2018 and 2019. 2020 he injured his neck in a car accident. He also had hip and groin injuries and missed the whole year. 2021 he was very good again. 2022 he started the year with back problems, and did not play up to his normal standards. Then in week 16 against the Pats he tore his ACL and MCL. He did not play in 2023. 2024 Dallas signed him in Jan but released him less than a month later. Bills signed him in April and just released him. Certainly worth a look. Collins isn’t sticking anywhere because he’s washed, at least Christian started games in the system last year (something none of the other guys you mentioned did). Also don’t know why Mafi is included in that list when he’s an interior lineman |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 27, 2024 18:26:16 GMT -5
Quick look around shows not much at areas of need. Maybe Josh Ball OT/G cut by Dallas. Injury issues, a bunch of off-field crap from college, been good in the NFL. Certainly not ideal from a young rebuilding team point of view, but reports he played well the last two preseason games at OG and LT.
Likely better going after the unsigned veterans.
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Post by rasimon on Aug 27, 2024 18:31:50 GMT -5
Yeah Geron Christian would fit right in with Lowe and Mafi and Anderson and Wheatley and ..were they still here ie he is not good. La'el Collins plays RT. He was good maybe very good in 2018 and 2019. 2020 he injured his neck in a car accident. He also had hip and groin injuries and missed the whole year. 2021 he was very good again. 2022 he started the year with back problems, and did not play up to his normal standards. Then in week 16 against the Pats he tore his ACL and MCL. He did not play in 2023. 2024 Dallas signed him in Jan but released him less than a month later. Bills signed him in April and just released him. Certainly worth a look. Collins isn’t sticking anywhere because he’s washed, at least Christian started games in the system last year (something none of the other guys you mentioned did). Also don’t know why Mafi is included in that list when he’s an interior lineman Yes he probably is done. But he has been very good when healthy. Might be worth checking in with. |
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Post by rasimon on Aug 27, 2024 18:39:46 GMT -5
Jalen Pitre (S) was released. He was ok last year. HOU has been playing him mostly at FS and thats probably not his best position. Baylor used him in the slot.
Lewis Cine (FS) was released. He would be perfect for the Pats if he were the guy MIN thought they were getting when they drafted him in 2022. He played 2 snaps and suffered an ugly broken leg. He came back week 17 of 2023 and played 8 snaps.
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Post by jmei on Aug 27, 2024 19:47:42 GMT -5
Now you’re just putting words in my mouth. I never said they don’t want him. I’m saying that they are mismanaging a franchise quarterback. That’s a big difference, but still a potentially fireable offense and damaging to any locker room culture. bUt tHeY wErE ShOpPinG tHe PiCk aNd gAvE ZaPpE sNaPs oVeR hIM (in one preseason game, in a game with shit weather and a shit line) He’s probably not going to start the season. He shouldn’t start the season imo. They are making the right decision. Drake Maye isn’t dumb, he knows what’s going on and I’m sure he understands the situation. All the rest of the noise is radio fodder. It’s inconsequential. Idc what Mayo says, he says a lot of shit. What matters is it looks like the kid is coming along well so far. Let’s please tone down the profanity. Thanks. |
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 27, 2024 20:14:19 GMT -5
Speaking of the rookie QB: JT Sullivan with the tape breakdown:
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Post by philarhody on Aug 27, 2024 23:09:57 GMT -5
Speaking of the rookie QB: JT Sullivan with the tape breakdown: A lot of nitpicks. Can’t help but think he’s guarding his predraft takes. Most of the former NFL qb’s (Sims, Warner, JT, Chase Daniel) didn’t really like Drake Maye leading up to the draft. I don’t know why, but I think it’s the aesthetics. All the draft media (Solak, Tice (higher than Caleb), Klassen (higher than Caleb), Brugler, Kimes, Kelly) were higher on him than the league was. To me? I agree that aesthetically it’s kind of rough. But I was lower on Herbert, Josh Allen, Trevor Lawrence and Jordan Love for the same reasons. Athletes with big loopy arms and a clue. These prospects have been hitting left and right. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 28, 2024 0:42:35 GMT -5
Jalen Pitre (S) was released. He was ok last year. HOU has been playing him mostly at FS and thats probably not his best position. Baylor used him in the slot. Lewis Cine (FS) was released. He would be perfect for the Pats if he were the guy MIN thought they were getting when they drafted him in 2022. He played 2 snaps and suffered an ugly broken leg. He came back week 17 of 2023 and played 8 snaps. Well that's the problem with Lewis Cine, tons of people didn't think he was a free safety. He's a hard hitting SS, that ran a fast 40. |
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Aug 28, 2024 0:54:05 GMT -5
I'm not spending 40 minutes on a breakdown of less than a half of one game. Drake Maye showed you the future in that game! Runs, Lazer dart throws, completing passes without his shoe, side arm throws, running to sideline to throw a bomb. You want talented smart guys that make plays, end of story. He's going to be a stud if our OL doesn't destroy him!
His biggest issue is only two years starting experience in College, take it slow with him!
Anyone that watches tape and think Daniels is a better QB is someone's opinion I don't care about. This crap with Maye just reminds me of the Gonzalez crap.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 28, 2024 6:50:49 GMT -5
In terms moves now, here's what we should (maybe?) look forward to:
- I know people are trying to find the best OT available but it (also) wouldn't surprise me for a big focus to be on a backup C
- Wonder if any of our TEs end up on IR given potential health concerns towards the end of the pre-season.
- If so, Donald Parham was someone I saw mentioned as a candidate.
- IDL, ED (depending on Uche's health) are other spots where vets could make sense.
- Obviously practice squads get filled today. Think there is a QB coming. Hopefully, at least, 1 of Jennings/Harris. We get an extra spot if Russell signs as he is an IPP.
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Post by texs31 on Aug 28, 2024 11:45:02 GMT -5
Coming Via Waivers:
LB Curtis Jacobs
OT Demontrey Jacobs
DT Eric Johnson
OT Zachary Thomas
Practice Squad Additions:
WR Matt Landers
RB Terrell Jennings
S AJ Thomas
Leaving Via Waivers:
NONE
Reportedly NOT re-signing with Patriots (PS or other):
Zappe (Chiefs PS)
Roberts (Bears PS)
Mafi (no signing yet, but Andrew Callahan reporting he's not expected to return)
Wallis (not as of this moment, at least, per Daniels)
Bledsoe (per Daniels)
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