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Post by texs31 on May 18, 2024 22:13:36 GMT -5
As some of said in the other thread, better season than expected. Time to move on.
Biggest items on the "To do" list are:
Re-Sign Swayman Re-Sign or Replace Debrusk Trade Ullmark 1 more legit top 9 F MAYBE a Top 4 D (I think Lohrei is ready but depth is needed so why not "high end" depth)
They have about 21M in space. Sway and Debrusk (or his replacement) will eat up some. But still room to do stuff.
I also wonder if Geekie gets traded. Definitely a win for Sweeney on this one but, depending on what kind of F you get (is there a C available), Geekie could get squeezed (but bring value in trade) if Poitras, Coyle and Zacha (or another C that pushes Zacha to W) and Beecher are your top 4.
On Ullmark, I wonder if he'll get moved for prospects (creating more space) or a player (filling one of the needs above). For those that thought LA was the team he would've gotten traded to this deadline (though some thought it may have been Colorado), I have it in my head if was a deal involving Pierre-Luc Dubois. Probably not but they had plenty of C depth and needed a G. He seems like the most moveable of their players (especially if Boston, at the deadline, was trying to add to the team using Ullmark).
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2024 6:40:07 GMT -5
I’m only taking that PLD contract on if LA retains 50% on it
I think he may get bought out tbh
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 19, 2024 10:02:37 GMT -5
I think he's a good fit if you believe he's going to be a 20 goal 60 point guy going forward, but yeah not at $8.5 million per season. If you could trade Ullmark and get him at 50% of his salary that would be a great move. Even at $5 to $6 million per.
What the Bruins really need to do is stop trading future picks and rebuild the prospect pool. So trading Ullmark for prospect also makes sense if you get the right deal.
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2024 10:19:31 GMT -5
They need more edge in their top 6 so that’s one thing I would like about PLD.
I like Nikita Zadorov and Dakota Joshua a lot. They’d add edge to the D and middle 6 respectively
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2024 12:21:04 GMT -5
I think he's a good fit if you believe he's going to be a 20 goal 60 point guy going forward, but yeah not at $8.5 million per season. If you could trade Ullmark and get him at 50% of his salary that would be a great move. Even at $5 to $6 million per. What the Bruins really need to do is stop trading future picks and rebuild the prospect pool. So trading Ullmark for prospect also makes sense if you get the right deal. I'm just not seeing enough on the FA Market to think Boston could trade him for prospects/picks and then go to market and bring in 2 Top 9 FA forwards. 1 (especially if you're bringing back JDB) maybe. But 2? Using Ullmark to accomplish that goal (so you don't have to trade any more picks) is probably the better solution.
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Post by umassgrad2005 on May 19, 2024 15:52:42 GMT -5
Martin Necas is a restricted free agents and per reports going to be traded. What do we think? All Czech first line?
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2024 16:34:22 GMT -5
Martin Necas is a restricted free agents and per reports going to be traded. What do we think? All Czech first line? Carolina needs a goalie too- they have guys under contract but I’m not sure any of them are good enough for Carolina to be taken seriously as a cup contender. Perhaps Kochetkov if he keeps improving I guess
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Post by GyIantosca on May 19, 2024 21:03:54 GMT -5
I was always team Swayman. Ullnark should help us get an asset.
I read one article that like 3 teams are hampered by bad goaltending
I good on Debrusk. Griz is free agent not coming back. U need height back there. I mean don't sign Debrusk. Please give Lysell a goddamm chance
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Post by cdj on May 19, 2024 22:48:15 GMT -5
If Edmonton gets taken out I’d offer Swayman+ up for Draisatl but I’m a little crazy like that. That’s the only scenario I keep Ullmark going into next season
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Post by tizzle on May 22, 2024 16:52:49 GMT -5
I’m only taking that PLD contract on if LA retains 50% on it I think he may get bought out tbh But no chance someone retains on a contract that runs 7 more years.
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Post by cdj on May 22, 2024 17:08:16 GMT -5
I’m only taking that PLD contract on if LA retains 50% on it I think he may get bought out tbh But no chance someone retains on a contract that runs 7 more years. Very true, seems like LA management is gonna bite the bullet and hope he rebounds. Can’t waive the flag and buyout because that looks so awful after giving up a haul for him, but holding onto him at that contract is gonna possibly be a franchise killer. GM will probably live or die depending on how he does next year
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Post by texs31 on May 23, 2024 11:01:49 GMT -5
I’m only taking that PLD contract on if LA retains 50% on it I think he may get bought out tbh But no chance someone retains on a contract that runs 7 more years. Mostly agree except we are seeing more cases where a team gets rewarded as a go between to retain part of the salary. 7 year is tough though.
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Post by tizzle on May 23, 2024 16:24:01 GMT -5
If Edmonton gets taken out I’d offer Swayman+ up for Draisatl but I’m a little crazy like that. That’s the only scenario I keep Ullmark going into next season It's crazy. I was literally thinking the exact same thing earlier and then read this. What's the saying? Mediocre minds think alike?
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Post by jodyreidnichols on May 25, 2024 9:59:40 GMT -5
An interesting take I did not consider is trading Ullmark for prospects and or picks. This would also free up more money to spend on free agency, I'm just not aware of where the free agent markets at, regarding quality and depth. If they don't do that get back the best center you can for him. I wanted to trade Ullmark after last season when his value was at its highest. I get the feeling Bruins management backed the wrong goalie and/or was not quite sold on Swayman as a true number one and punted on a key decision that had bigger ramifications affecting the team for several years to come. The team did not have a true number 1 center and you could argue it doesn't even have a number 2 center for a team with Championship aspirations. How many games in the playoffs did it take for Zacha to get his first playoff goal, 20-something? Now DeBrusk is a very hard decision that I have no true conviction about, however, I get the feeling some other team will pay him like SD did with Xander. Not that extreme but you get the point, overpay him. I also get the feeling he just may have turned the corner on his career because you see just enough to know he's very talented and just needs to be more consistent, tell a Bruins fan something they don't already know.
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Post by cdj on Jun 15, 2024 8:51:14 GMT -5
Patrik Laine would be a good guy to buy low on, I’d love if the bruins could get him with some retention
Superstar upside still imo
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Post by cdj on Jun 21, 2024 10:25:14 GMT -5
A guy with legit sources (Dominic Tiano) is saying Lauko is in a potential deal with Ottawa for Ullmark
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 21, 2024 23:27:41 GMT -5
Oilers coming back, geez I hate 3-0 leads!
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Post by cdj on Jun 22, 2024 7:59:40 GMT -5
Oilers coming back, geez I hate 3-0 leads! As somebody with a Panthers cup winner bet at +600 that also hates the panthers…I’m very conflicted
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 22, 2024 11:51:02 GMT -5
A guy with legit sources (Dominic Tiano) is saying Lauko is in a potential deal with Ottawa for Ullmark For prospects?
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Post by cdj on Jun 22, 2024 12:24:35 GMT -5
A guy with legit sources (Dominic Tiano) is saying Lauko is in a potential deal with Ottawa for Ullmark For prospects? Chychrun, bruins original 1st round pick, and perhaps a prospect is the framework I’ve seen
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 23, 2024 9:46:13 GMT -5
Chychrun, bruins original 1st round pick, and perhaps a prospect is the framework I’ve seen On X then mentioned a goalie and possibly 3/4th round picks also
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Jun 24, 2024 19:20:36 GMT -5
Chychrun, bruins original 1st round pick, and perhaps a prospect is the framework I’ve seen On X then mentioned a goalie and possibly 3/4th round picks also the Boston Bruins have acquired Joonas Korpisalo, the 25th overall pick in the upcoming draft, and Mark Kastelic. Not crazy about this one.
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Post by cdj on Jun 24, 2024 20:03:00 GMT -5
Must think they can rehab Korpisalo- I’d imagine they can, he was solid in 2022-2023. Ottawa’s defense is a tire fire
I’d have preferred to clear more salary. Do like Kastelic as a younger Maroon replacement, and obviously it’s nice to have something to think about on draft day
I give the deal a C+…ultimately some potential for it to improve if they can rehab Korpisalo and flip him later.
Ultimately Ullmark not agreeing to an extension hurt our return
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Post by umassgrad2005 on Jun 25, 2024 10:41:22 GMT -5
After taking on the years left on that contract even with them paying 25%, yeah the return should have been better. Then again do you blame Ullmark for not wanting to resign there? Flipside is that bad D might kill his next contract.
I'm not going to lie, was hoping for prospects that were close to being NHL ready. Was this really the best offer available? Or just the one place that wanted him and he'd agree to go there?
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Post by cdj on Jun 25, 2024 12:04:33 GMT -5
After taking on the years left on that contract even with them paying 25%, yeah the return should have been better. Then again do you blame Ullmark for not wanting to resign there? Flipside is that bad D might kill his next contract. I'm not going to lie, was hoping for prospects that were close to being NHL ready. Was this really the best offer available? Or just the one place that wanted him and he'd agree to go there? From what I gather I believe it was Friedman who said Ullmark could update his list on July 1st and they were concerned he would put Ottawa on it- doesn’t seem like there was too much competition for him and they just wanted to get it done Honestly I would have preferred the senators 2nd round pick for Ullmark straight up…but I really do like Kastelic’s game, he fits what they needed on that 4th line. Solid skater, hits, fights, wins draws. Will be our new tough guy. Not a great fighter but solid enough and he will go with anybody. The Korpisalo contract is really the only drawback, I just wish they had cleared more money with this deal
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