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Post by adamgregory81 on Aug 23, 2024 21:31:06 GMT -5
Do the guys in the know feel like there is a bit of caution in his ranking on SP?
I mean, I don’t trust anyone more with respect to Red Sox prospect rankings than the guys on this site; but jeez… Campbell has hit everywhere, always, without exception. And he is 6’3” and athletic! What are the red flags? Weak-ish arm and funky swing? Instincts?
At this moment, I’m wondering if I should be exceptionally excited for Montgomery - and I think I’d be more upset about losing Campbell than any other prospect except maybe Anthony.
(All recency bias, and completely uniformed, but I am curious if internal discussions focus on comments like “he can’t be this good, can he? He’s a fourth round pick!!”)
Nothing more exciting than helium.
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Post by carmenfanzone on Aug 23, 2024 21:42:02 GMT -5
His scouting report page on this site appears to be obsolete. Not being critical. He just seems to get better with each promotion.
Hope he can keep it up.
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Post by keninten on Aug 23, 2024 22:16:46 GMT -5
Can we start comparing him to Mookie`s ride thru the system?
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Aug 23, 2024 22:49:39 GMT -5
Those looked like the could've caused rain delays..
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Post by adamgregory81 on Aug 23, 2024 22:54:17 GMT -5
Can we start comparing him to Mookie`s ride thru the system? The thing that is most similar to Mookie, for me, is that the rise has been so fast and unexpected, that it’s impossible to trust any projection/scouting report. I mean, he was a 4th round pick just over 12 months ago in a very loaded draft, and now he’s what? Top 100? Top 50? Top 25? Top 10 (if you want to be optimistic) in all of baseball? At some point, a “heater” is not a “heater,” you’re just better than everyone else - and this guy has yet to really be challenged by any level. He’s been the best bat in the lineup on effectively every night of his professional career, and that’s often been in the same lineup as other highly regarded prospects. He’s got a couple of years on Anthony, which is the only reason I wouldn’t have him #1. Mayer has the pedigree, and both Mayer and Teel have the defensive advantage, but Campbell’s size, athleticism, and bat put him above both of those guys for me. And that’s the other thing he has in common with Mookie, he seems to adjust and improve on the fly - and that’s the best “tool” a guy can have. 12 years $72 million - sign him up now.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 23, 2024 23:09:19 GMT -5
Anthony with a HR. Campbell with 2 of them. Its early but so far AAA hasn't been a big challenge.
With these 4 guys I really think the Sox would be nuts to trade any of these 4 guys. These guys are studs. Break the checkbook out for pitching. The only money needed for offensive support will be potential extensions.
Meanwhile I'm starting to wonder if Jhostnyxon Garcia is somebody who'll be added to that mix.
Maybe the Sox trade Yoshida after the 2025 season if Garcia mashes thru AA next season and has an impressive 2 months in AAA. Maybe he becomes the RH power DH they're looking for to help balance out the lineuo.
As much as I believe in Grissom I'd pencil in Campbell at 2b ahead of him. Add Anthony, Teel, and Mayer, and this team will seriously mash. And Montgomery was a helluva draft pick. They seriously got an exciting core up ahead. Just let it happen!
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Post by patford on Aug 23, 2024 23:36:03 GMT -5
The Sox need to bring him up now just so he can figure out his approach will never work against more advanced pitching. Keeping him in the minors where he annihilates everything thrown to him is stunting his development.
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Post by bluechip on Aug 23, 2024 23:49:39 GMT -5
The Sox need to bring him up now just so he can figure out his approach will never work against more advanced pitching. Keeping him in the minors where he annihilates everything thrown to him is stunting his development. Or bring him up so he can start annihilating mlb pitchers.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Aug 24, 2024 0:13:43 GMT -5
Anthony with a HR. Campbell with 2 of them. Its early but so far AAA hasn't been a big challenge. With these 4 guys I really think the Sox would be nuts to trade any of these 4 guys. These guys are studs. Break the checkbook out for pitching. The only money needed for offensive support will be potential extensions. Meanwhile I'm starting to wonder if Jhostnyxon Garcia is somebody who'll be added to that mix. Maybe the Sox trade Yoshida after the 2025 season if Garcia mashes thru AA next season and has an impressive 2 months in AAA. Maybe he becomes the RH power DH they're looking for to help balance out the lineuo. As much as I believe in Grissom I'd pencil in Camobell at 2b ahead of him. Add Anthony, Teel, and Mayer, and this team will seriously mash. And Montgomery was a helluva draft pick. They seriously got an exciting core up ahead. Just let it happen! Password looks great in Refsnyder’s spot beginning in 2026. On paper it may not seem like a big role, but over 162, he’d have plenty of opportunity to show what he can do.
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Post by batsman on Aug 24, 2024 0:40:10 GMT -5
Milb ops 1.014 after tonight (443 ab). The Sox have a 'The Right Stuff'ian Pure Hitter on their hands. Hoping he isn't forced to enlist as a Space Force drone ace in W3, as that's about the only thing that can slow him at this point.
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Post by jodyreidnichols on Aug 24, 2024 0:53:46 GMT -5
Anthony with a HR. Campbell with 2 of them. Its early but so far AAA hasn't been a big challenge. With these 4 guys I really think the Sox would be nuts to trade any of these 4 guys. These guys are studs. Break the checkbook out for pitching. The only money needed for offensive support will be potential extensions. Meanwhile I'm starting to wonder if Jhostnyxon Garcia is somebody who'll be added to that mix. Maybe the Sox trade Yoshida after the 2025 season if Garcia mashes thru AA next season and has an impressive 2 months in AAA. Maybe he becomes the RH power DH they're looking for to help balance out the lineuo. As much as I believe in Grissom I'd pencil in Camobell at 2b ahead of him. Add Anthony, Teel, and Mayer, and this team will seriously mash. And Montgomery was a helluva draft pick. They seriously got an exciting core up ahead. Just let it happen! Eventually. Keep in mind that even most superstars take 2 years to adjust to ML Pitching, precious few rake right from the beginning. If any of the big 4 hit for even around league average the first year or so I'd be very happy and it would be encouraging in fact.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 24, 2024 4:18:12 GMT -5
Do the guys in the know feel like there is a bit of caution in his ranking on SP? I mean, I don’t trust anyone more with respect to Red Sox prospect rankings than the guys on this site; but jeez… Campbell has hit everywhere, always, without exception. And he is 6’3” and athletic! What are the red flags? Weak-ish arm and funky swing? Instincts? At this moment, I’m wondering if I should be exceptionally excited for Montgomery - and I think I’d be more upset about losing Campbell than any other prospect except maybe Anthony. (All recency bias, and completely uniformed, but I am curious if internal discussions focus on comments like “he can’t be this good, can he? He’s a fourth round pick!!”) Nothing more exciting than helium. Yes but it makes your voice sound higher.
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Post by costpet on Aug 24, 2024 7:58:58 GMT -5
They got Mookie in the 5th round, so rounds aren't that important. Even Judge wasn't picked until the 30th overall in round 1. Baseball is too hard to project.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Aug 24, 2024 11:52:56 GMT -5
I spy an up arrow next to Mr. Campbell on the SP homepage 👀
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Post by scottysmalls on Aug 24, 2024 12:00:56 GMT -5
Campbell's at a 188 wRC+, among minor leaguers with 400+ PAs this year the next highest is at 167. The gap between Campbell and #2 is as big as the gap between #2 and #14.
Overall for his minor league career among players with at least 400 PAs Campbell has the third highest wRC+ since 2006 behind only Juan Soto and Kyle Schwarber.
I think this guy is gonna hit.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 24, 2024 12:07:18 GMT -5
Anthony with a HR. Campbell with 2 of them. Its early but so far AAA hasn't been a big challenge. With these 4 guys I really think the Sox would be nuts to trade any of these 4 guys. These guys are studs. Break the checkbook out for pitching. The only money needed for offensive support will be potential extensions. Meanwhile I'm starting to wonder if Jhostnyxon Garcia is somebody who'll be added to that mix. Maybe the Sox trade Yoshida after the 2025 season if Garcia mashes thru AA next season and has an impressive 2 months in AAA. Maybe he becomes the RH power DH they're looking for to help balance out the lineuo. As much as I believe in Grissom I'd pencil in Camobell at 2b ahead of him. Add Anthony, Teel, and Mayer, and this team will seriously mash. And Montgomery was a helluva draft pick. They seriously got an exciting core up ahead. Just let it happen! Eventually. Keep in mind that even most superstars take 2 years to adjust to ML Pitching, precious few rake right from the beginning. If any of the big 4 hit for even around league average the first year or so I'd be very happy and it would be encouraging in fact. Yup. I know. Still doesnt really temper the excitement of them coming up and sometimes rookies do play well at the beginning and then hit an adjustment period before they do adjust and succeed.
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Post by greatscottcooper on Aug 24, 2024 12:21:24 GMT -5
I spy an up arrow next to Mr. Campbell on the SP homepage 👀 I’m thinking of a number Inbetween 3 and 3
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Aug 24, 2024 12:56:40 GMT -5
Eventually. Keep in mind that even most superstars take 2 years to adjust to ML Pitching, precious few rake right from the beginning. If any of the big 4 hit for even around league average the first year or so I'd be very happy and it would be encouraging in fact. Yup. I know. Still doesnt really temper the excitement of them coming up and sometimes rookies do play well at the beginning and then hit an adjustment period before they do adjust and succeed. I remember the Gold Dust Twins: #AdjustmentPeriodTHIS
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 24, 2024 13:04:17 GMT -5
Yup. I know. Still doesnt really temper the excitement of them coming up and sometimes rookies do play well at the beginning and then hit an adjustment period before they do adjust and succeed. I remember the Gold Dust Twins: #AdjustmentPeriodTHIS Not quite the same, but I remember Greenwell and Burks hitting the ground running in 1987 while Sam Horn blasted 14 HRs in about 160 ABs.
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Post by southernbosox on Aug 24, 2024 13:16:08 GMT -5
Campbell's at a 188 wRC+, among minor leaguers with 400+ PAs this year the next highest is at 167. The gap between Campbell and #2 is as big as the gap between #2 and #14. Overall for his minor league career among players with at least 400 PAs Campbell has the third highest wRC+ since 2006 behind only Juan Soto and Kyle Schwarber. I think this guy is gonna hit. Great pull. I think at this point he is clearly above Teel. If you take away their draft position and place a heavier weight on the ability to stay on the field, I’d very much rate him over Mayer. You can’t look past his on field performance and underlying damage metrics at this point. He hits the absolute dogshit out of the ball.
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Post by incandenza on Aug 24, 2024 13:21:46 GMT -5
Campbell's at a 188 wRC+, among minor leaguers with 400+ PAs this year the next highest is at 167. The gap between Campbell and #2 is as big as the gap between #2 and #14. Overall for his minor league career among players with at least 400 PAs Campbell has the third highest wRC+ since 2006 behind only Juan Soto and Kyle Schwarber. I think this guy is gonna hit. Great pull. I think at this point he is clearly above Teel. If you take away their draft position and place a heavier weight on the ability to stay on the field, I’d very much rate him over Mayer. You can’t look past his on field performance and underlying damage metrics at this point. He hits the absolute dogshit out of the ball. I'd like to know stuff like what his defensive position is before I'd rate him above any of the big 3.
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Post by stevedillard on Aug 24, 2024 13:43:26 GMT -5
I was trying to find out whether his rise was sudden, and found he hit well at Georgia Tech as a sophomore in 2022. His GT page tells me he also was a highly rated recruit. The only break from that strong trajectory is that he was red shirted as a freshman in 2021. That is not typical. Do we know why? was it injury, or that the coach thought he was not college level?
High School: Rated as the No. 5 shortstop and No. 10 player overall from the state of Georgia … Four-year letterwinner at Walton High School … Played primarily at shortstop … Helped lead Walton to a Region 5 Division 7A Championship in 2019 … First-team all-American in 2019 en route to the Silver Slugger Award … Also named first-team all-Region and all-State … Appeared in 153 showcase games from 2017-20 … Two-time Perfect Game Preseason High Honorable Mention All-American (2018, 2019) … Named 2020 PG Preseason All-American Southeast – All-Region First Team … A 20-time All-Tournament selection … A six-time WWBA Champion, three-time PG Super25 Champion and 2017 BCS Champion … Hit .397 for his career, including .373 in 2020 … Finished with 144 hits, 23 doubles, eight triples and three homers for 91 RBI in four years… In 2020, recorded 50 hits, seven doubles, four triples and two home runs for 43 RBI, while drawing 36 walks … Also stole 30 bases … Reached base .522 on the year.
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Post by nonothing on Aug 24, 2024 13:46:39 GMT -5
I spy an up arrow next to Mr. Campbell on the SP homepage 👀 I’m thinking of a number Inbetween 3 and 3 Where Mayer goes to 4 and Teel stays where he is?
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Post by nonothing on Aug 24, 2024 13:48:52 GMT -5
I’m thinking of a number Inbetween 3 and 3 Where Mayer goes to 4 and Teel stays where he is? Just being provocative. But in all seriousness, a player that is ranked as highly as our top 3 typically has a position associated with him. If you don't have a sense of where his home is likely to be defensively, or where he could play at least acceptable defensively, he is hard to slot above our current top 3.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 24, 2024 13:52:34 GMT -5
I’m thinking of a number Inbetween 3 and 3 Where Mayer goes to 4 and Teel stays where he is? Teel honestly doesn't seem like a potential game changer to me. Feels like Mayer has that ceiling and Campbell does too. I'd rank them Anthony Mayer Campbell Teel in my book.
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