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Post by soxfaninnj on Jun 2, 2024 22:45:31 GMT -5
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Post by keninten on Jun 3, 2024 0:41:36 GMT -5
So is Kristain going to be in the OF? Don`t see where he would fit in Portland except the OF. If so I hope he still sees time at 2nd and 3rd after he adjusts to the league.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Jun 3, 2024 10:16:29 GMT -5
I know this is a blasphemous thing to say around here, and I am definitely not saying the outcomes will be the same...
But aspects of Campbell's draft position, player profile and low-minors breakout remind me of Mookie's breakout a little over a decade ago.
Both were drafted in similar areas of the draft with versatility and contact being their primary strengths. Both quickly flashed more power than expected early on in their milb careers.
If Campbell's bat speed and power gains are legit, which they seem to be, he immediately becomes a fairly high-floor prospect with exciting upside.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jun 3, 2024 10:21:41 GMT -5
I know this is a blasphemous thing to say around here, and I am definitely not saying the outcomes will be the same... But aspects of Campbell's draft position, player profile and low-minors breakout remind me of Mookie's breakout a little over a decade ago. Both were drafted in similar areas of the draft with versatility and contact being their primary strengths. Both quickly flashed more power than expected early on in their milb careers. If Campbell's bat speed and power gains are legit, which they seem to be, he immediately becomes a fairly high-floor prospect with exciting upside. I think the two very key differences here are that Campbell has sacrificed some of that contact ability for his gains in power output so far, and he also doesn’t have a definitive defensive home, though now that I think about it I don’t remember if people saw Mookie becoming the defender he did, either. Either way, this feels much more like just a regular prospect breakout than Mookie 2.0 to me.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Jun 3, 2024 11:18:45 GMT -5
Campbell's promotion is good news to start the week. I'll be going to Sunday's game and always enjoy a new rising prospect for the 1st time. Hoping Peralas gets another Sunday start. Double bonus !!!
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Post by mobaz on Jun 3, 2024 12:08:39 GMT -5
Fun to remember he's in the Xander comp pick spot that we were all so pissed was a 4th instead of a 2nd after barely staying over the tax line
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Post by bojacksoxfan on Jun 3, 2024 12:10:26 GMT -5
Obviously his hitting stats are terrific and well deserving of promotion. I haven’t really paid attention to any defensive reports. I know he’s bounced between 2B and CF, but what does his defense project going forward?
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 3, 2024 12:12:20 GMT -5
Fun to remember he's in the Xander comp pick spot that we were all so pissed was a 4th instead of a 2nd after barely staying over the tax line True, but at the same time, with the 2C pick, they could have still picked Campbell and had more money for the other picks.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 5, 2024 13:06:18 GMT -5
Kristian Campbell was Sally League player of the month for May.
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Post by itinerantherb on Jun 5, 2024 13:17:19 GMT -5
Earlier I put this is the gameday thread, but this is a better place for it: Interesting article on Kristian Campbell's power surge, with quotes from the Greenville hitting coach suggesting that Campbell and the team consciously sacrificed his formerly elite in-zone contact rate to hit the ball in the air more frequently J.P. Fasone: “I think that was part of the conversation with him is that we’re going to try to hit the ball in the air more and kind of look to do some more damage than he has in the past,” Fasone said. “That might come with striking out a little bit more. But because his strikeouts were so low, he had a little bit of room to give and still be within league average or below that. So I think that was part of the conversation with him and I think we expected them to be a little bit higher. But we’ll kind of trade the production for a few more strikeouts.” www.masslive.com/redsox/2024/06/fast-rising-red-sox-prospect-kristian-campbell-added-power-bat-speed.html
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Post by bettsonmookie on Jun 5, 2024 17:07:42 GMT -5
Kristian Campbell was Sally League player of the month for May. Per Alex Speier's twitter: Red Sox prospect Kristian Campbell, recently promoted to Double-A Portland, was named High-A South Atlantic League Player of the Month for May. He should be considered well within the team’s top 10 prospects.
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Post by adamgregory81 on Jun 5, 2024 18:15:09 GMT -5
Although I admittedly have no idea and I’m scouting highlights, box scores, and other information available through this site, it feels to me like he should be 7-9 with Zanetello and Fitts (as I’m not sure i am ready to drop Wilk too much yet, I’d probably have him at 10 in my fanboy list); and I’d probably put him 7 as of today - he’s a big, athletic, kid, he’s been hitting since the moment he got here, and appears to have the profile to be at least a useful defensive piece.
With that said, Yorke was pretty amazing at Greenville too, so I’m prepared to listen when the wiser, more calculated voices request that we slow the hype train.
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Post by soxinsf on Jun 5, 2024 22:26:42 GMT -5
Although I admittedly have no idea and I’m scouting highlights, box scores, and other information available through this site, it feels to me like he should be 7-9 with Zanetello and Fitts (as I’m not sure i am ready to drop Wilk too much yet, I’d probably have him at 10 in my fanboy list); and I’d probably put him 7 as of today - he’s a big, athletic, kid, he’s been hitting since the moment he got here, and appears to have the profile to be at least a useful defensive piece. With that said, Yorke was pretty amazing at Greenville too, so I’m prepared to listen when the wiser, more calculated voices request that we slow the hype train. Just for the fun of it—this is Campbell in AA. .375/.444/.625/1.069. It’s a beginning.
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Post by nonothing on Jun 6, 2024 7:14:14 GMT -5
Although I admittedly have no idea and I’m scouting highlights, box scores, and other information available through this site, it feels to me like he should be 7-9 with Zanetello and Fitts (as I’m not sure i am ready to drop Wilk too much yet, I’d probably have him at 10 in my fanboy list); and I’d probably put him 7 as of today - he’s a big, athletic, kid, he’s been hitting since the moment he got here, and appears to have the profile to be at least a useful defensive piece. With that said, Yorke was pretty amazing at Greenville too, so I’m prepared to listen when the wiser, more calculated voices request that we slow the hype train. Campbell has size, speed and was among the best hitters in the ACC. Yorke was a high school hitter with a limited track record who has neither size, nor speed, nor elite EVs in his favor as Campbell does. Yorke could be a very fine MLB player, but I would not really compared an athlete like Campbell to Yorke. Maybe in current/recent Red Sox prospect stack, compare to Bleis or Zanetello or Duran in various ways?
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Post by greatscottcooper on Jun 6, 2024 7:37:31 GMT -5
Some talk has been started about Campbells defense.
After the one who came known as Jarren, I've decided against judging anyones defense learning a new position until they've had at least a year to adjust. I hope the Sox continue to expose guys earlier to at least partially playing multiple positions, a la Rafaela. Would love to see Campbell get time at 3B/2B/OF
Note: this is contingent on said player being an above average athlete. Which by all accounts Campbell is.
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Post by James Dunne on Jun 6, 2024 8:39:22 GMT -5
I know this is a blasphemous thing to say around here, and I am definitely not saying the outcomes will be the same... But aspects of Campbell's draft position, player profile and low-minors breakout remind me of Mookie's breakout a little over a decade ago. Both were drafted in similar areas of the draft with versatility and contact being their primary strengths. Both quickly flashed more power than expected early on in their milb careers. If Campbell's bat speed and power gains are legit, which they seem to be, he immediately becomes a fairly high-floor prospect with exciting upside. Mookie Betts was in the major leagues when he was Kristian Campbell's age. Before his callup in his age-21 season, he had struck out just 50 times (against 61 walks) in 99 games/464 PA at Double-A and Triple-A. I don't know how many other players in history have gone from essentially being a unknown to a Hall of Famer like that, it really does a disservice to keep throwing that comparison on every prospect who breaks out. We saw it in 2022-23 with Rafaela too, just a totally unfair level of expectation.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Jun 6, 2024 12:38:12 GMT -5
At least with Rafaela it was because his swing bore a strong visual resemblance to Mookie's.
Anyway, personally, I feel like "well within the top 10" is strong for a college guy in High-A. I think it's fair to say he should be in consideration though. But that's probably just semantics.
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Post by ramireja on Jun 6, 2024 12:47:15 GMT -5
In fairness, the OP did say:
and was then careful about pointing out where there were similarities in the breakout. I didn't read that post as a player comp, which indeed, would be blasphemous.
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Post by bettsonmookie on Jun 6, 2024 12:50:45 GMT -5
In fairness, the OP did say: and was then careful about pointing out where there were similarities in the breakout. I didn't read that post as a player comp, which indeed, would be blasphemous. Yes. Exactly. They are also both Tennessee kids. That does not mean I am projecting K-Camp to be this generation's Willie Mays. I am just highlighting the similarities in draft position, scouting profile, and that both surpassed power expectations very quickly.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jun 7, 2024 15:40:21 GMT -5
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Post by incandenza on Jun 7, 2024 16:22:01 GMT -5
I can't get quite this excited when he still had a K rate north of 25% in high-A. Now if he can keep up his current 7% K rate in AA (in 14 PAs)? Sign me up.
(Would it be gratuitously off-topic to mention that Spencer Jones has a 35% K rate and .652 OPS in AA?)
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Post by jaffinator on Jun 7, 2024 16:49:53 GMT -5
I can't get quite this excited when he still had a K rate north of 25% in high-A. Now if he can keep up his current 7% K rate in AA (in 14 PAs)? Sign me up.
(Would it be gratuitously off-topic to mention that Spencer Jones has a 35% K rate and .652 OPS in AA?)
It would be (and my apologies for for sure derailing it further) - but I just looked up Spencer Jones on Fangraphs (where he's the 16th overall prospect in baseball). He has over a 50% groundball rate, nearly a 50% pull percentage, and a 13% infield fly ball% (SSS - this is 3 infield fly balls lol). I haven't watched him this season, but that's statistically crying out for a pretty significant change in swing mechanics I feel like. Doesn't paint the picture of a good swing path exactly.
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Post by jimoh on Jun 7, 2024 19:48:15 GMT -5
Not even close to being a puff piece. Detailed, sober, realistic, aware of his weird swing and the possibility that he may not succeed. Says he could be top five by the end of the year.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jun 13, 2024 16:42:29 GMT -5
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Jun 15, 2024 1:20:44 GMT -5
I absolutely did not want Bogaerts resigned, because his defense and wrong side of 30, and I did not feel he would age well.
This is icing on the cake…
“The Red Sox used the comp pick they gained from losing Xander Bogaerts to draft Kristian Campbell.
They used the pick they gained from failing to sign Jud Fabian to draft Cutter Coffey.
Campbell and Coffey have both homered twice tonight.”
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