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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 22, 2024 13:01:15 GMT -5
The Rays are 50-49 and 4.5 games back of the wild card despite a negative 58 run differential despite certain guys having down years (Yandy Diaz) or their generational shortstop having been arrested. It sounds like they’re going to buy and sell and it seems unlikely they’ll make the playoffs, but even in a bad year the Rays are over-performing I feel like we have this conversation every year, and in September somehow the Rays make the playoffs. They’ll make a trade for a random bat that will hit 12 homers in August or a starter that will be Nolan Ryan the next 6 weeks Once again becoming the best team in the 2nd half of the year or one of.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 22, 2024 13:06:29 GMT -5
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 22, 2024 13:14:42 GMT -5
My current deadline prediction: Add France/Turner/Canha and some decent reliever for nothing and also a backend SP for something small. Overall similar-ish impact to 2023 deadline but louder names/better press approach. My F it let’s get weird maximum fun plan that I don’t actually think they should do: In - Robert Jr., Eflin, Turner, 2xRP, Prospects Out - Abreu, O’Neill, Jansen, Prospects If Craig somehow pulled out the fun plan, he would go down as the best Red Sox GM ever.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 22, 2024 13:18:17 GMT -5
Strongly recommend clicking through this link and reading it, quite enjoyable
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 22, 2024 13:18:48 GMT -5
My current deadline prediction: Add France/Turner/Canha and some decent reliever for nothing and also a backend SP for something small. Overall similar-ish impact to 2023 deadline but louder names/better press approach. My F it let’s get weird maximum fun plan that I don’t actually think they should do: In - Robert Jr., Eflin, Turner, 2xRP, Prospects Out - Abreu, O’Neill, Jansen, Prospects If Craig somehow pulled out the fun plan, he would go down as the best Red Sox GM ever. I'm sure if he really wanted to he could pull off the fun plan. Doesn't mean he should necessarily do it if it costs multiple blue chip prospects.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 22, 2024 13:40:34 GMT -5
Strongly recommend clicking through this link and reading it, quite enjoyable Very enjoyable. Truly shocked that their farm system isn’t in the bottom 10 of the league. They have no tradable assets at all.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 22, 2024 13:58:14 GMT -5
Yankees top prospects -
Dominguez is really good but he might be done for the year with less than 100 PA Spencer Jones we don't need to talk about Roderick Arias - $4 million Bonus Baby not lighting Low-A on fire George Lombard - Late 1st round HS hitter not lighting Low-A on fire Chase Hampton - 2022 6th round college pitcher that had a good debut and hasn't pitched because of elbow problems this year Agustin Ramirez - Catcher with 10% CS rates who rates to be a good hitter for a catcher and a nobody as a DH
And then you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel passed that
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 22, 2024 14:08:01 GMT -5
While the Yankees farm does not look strong right now, it isn't completely void.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 22, 2024 14:19:32 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you do if you’re Cashman and the Yankees. Due to underperformance you have holes at 2B (Gleyber Torres), 3B (LeMahieu), LF (Verdugo) - while Stanton is still rehabbing to come back at DH and over at 1B Ben Rice has cooled off in lieu of an injured Anthony Rizzo. A number of those guys are set to be free agents and will need replaced somehow if their farm isn’t producing alternatives.
And that’s before you get to the pitching side. Not sure what you prioritize fixing
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 22, 2024 14:25:57 GMT -5
I’m not sure what you do if you’re Cashman and the Yankees. Due to underperformance you have holes at 2B (Gleyber Torres), 3B (LeMahieu), LF (Verdugo) - while Stanton is still rehabbing to come back at DH and over at 1B Ben Rice has cooled off in lieu of an injured Anthony Rizzo. A number of those guys are set to be free agents and will need replaced somehow if their farm isn’t producing alternatives. And that’s before you get to the pitching side. Not sure what you prioritize fixing It will take some maneuvering by the Yanks to try and keep that team competitive in the near future it would appear but can never count them out. They always somehow seem to find a way. The Jays near future doesn't seem all that strong at this point in time either. Who knows with the Rays, feels like at some point their run will come to an end. The Orioles look like the team to beat for the foreseeable future but the Sox future looks very bright as well. Hoping we go on a stretch here where it's the Sox battling the Orioles for the division coming up here.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 22, 2024 14:43:44 GMT -5
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 22, 2024 14:52:20 GMT -5
That article is not consistent with an interest in claiming Ty France
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 22, 2024 15:09:55 GMT -5
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Post by asm18 on Jul 22, 2024 15:15:30 GMT -5
Do we know if Breslow was in LA last night? I feel like I’m talking myself into it. Get him for basically free now as your nominal 5th starter, while still having the flexibility to get someone better in a week… or to soak up innings if things go sideways and they end up trading Pivetta
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 22, 2024 15:17:55 GMT -5
I'm indifferent on Paxton. If breslow thinks he'd help and wants to add him okay, if not okay.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 22, 2024 15:25:49 GMT -5
I would rather start Criswell or Winckowski
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Post by alexcorahomevideo on Jul 22, 2024 15:26:36 GMT -5
Paxton would be fine if the team wants to either claim him or trade a lottery ticket to the dodgers. A trade would be good for the team because it would allow the Sox to try and force the Dodgers to retain money, making it more attractive to the organization.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 22, 2024 15:32:34 GMT -5
I would rather start Criswell or Winckowski Eh, I’d prefer to have Winck focus on a relief role especially seeing we don’t know how long Slaten or Martin is going to be out. Overall, I wouldn’t hate a lottery ticket for Paxton as long as Craig is getting one more dependable starter at the deadline.
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Post by blizzards39 on Jul 22, 2024 15:32:46 GMT -5
Paxton would be fine if the team wants to either claim him or trade a lottery ticket to the dodgers. A trade would be good for the team because it would allow the Sox to try and force the Dodgers to retain money, making it more attractive to the organization. If dodgers pay some $
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Post by redsoxpride34 on Jul 22, 2024 16:01:07 GMT -5
No interest in Paxton as he just isn't what this team needs. There's no point wasting tax space on a pitcher who's just another older back-end guy. This team's needs are clear. #1 starter, middle of the order righty bat, back-end reliever/closer. Clear upgrades/need fillers should be the priority. Breslow has plenty of prospect ammo to make big move that helps the team this year and next.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 22, 2024 16:15:11 GMT -5
Generally I don't think it makes sense for them to acquire a starter who wouldn't at least compete for a playoff role, and I agree I'd probably rather just go Criswell/Winckowski.
But if they get Paxton for nothing right now and give him a start or two before the deadline if they think the pitching lab can do something and as a fallback plan in case they can't get someone better I'd be alright with it.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 22, 2024 16:23:58 GMT -5
No interest in Paxton as he just isn't what this team needs. There's no point wasting tax space on a pitcher who's just another older back-end guy. This team's needs are clear. #1 starter, middle of the order righty bat, back-end reliever/closer. Clear upgrades/need fillers should be the priority. Breslow has plenty of prospect ammo to make big move that helps the team this year and next. They aren’t getting a #1 SP at the deadline — only clear #1 is Skubal and as discussed here pretty thoroughly, the Orioles have the greatest need and the most pieces to pull that trade off. I also don’t see the argument about tax space. A reminder that any trade acquisitions are prorated, so they have plenty of available salary space to work with.
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Post by brendan98 on Jul 22, 2024 16:28:35 GMT -5
Since we are talking about Trade Capital, what do the Red Sox have, and who would you prefer to hang on to and/or move in a big deal.
I understand why we call Anthony, Mayer, Teel the big 3, but I personally feel differently about these guys (especially if we are considering trading any of them). I lump Anthony, Mayer, Teel, Campbell, Bleis, Cespedes, and Montgomery into a top tier of position players, and (again my personal belief) I have Anthony above them all and as such the most untradeable of any of them. My reason is simple, I think Anthony is the most likely to become a franchise level player and has the best combination of upside, performance and proximity to the majors. I have either of Mayer or Teel as tradeable in the right deal (for a big, controllable piece), and while I do think they will both be at least MLB regulars at premium positions, I feel like the Sox have players in place already that have shown they can play their positions more than adequately (I am more than comfortable with Rafaela at SS long term, and same for Wong at C), don't misconstrue what I'm saying, if Mayer and/or Teel do end up as the Red Sox starting SS/C in the future I'll be thrilled, but if one of them brings back a controllable starting P I still feel good that we have a very good option at their position and don't feel like the loss would be as impactful overall as it would be trading Anthony.
As for Campbell, Bleis, Cespedes, and Montgomery, they are the potential RH balance that this team needs, I am really high on Cespedes he could end up a DH long term but I think he is going to hit and hit for power. I guess I'd be willing to deal from Bleis, Campbell and Montgomery, but I'd have a hard time determining who I'd trade. Bleis is the 5 tool guy that really hasn't put it all together but is also the youngest and likely has the highest ceiling if he reaches it. Campbell is the oldest, but has performed the best professionally and has plenty of tools. Campbell has no professional experience but his college resume is extremely loud, and his potential big bat combined with athleticism and a plus plus arm in RF is really exciting.
Hypothetically, say the Sox make a push for Skubal, is Mayer, Campbell, (Valdez or Yorke) and maybe Wikelman enough for Detroit? Would the Dodgers beat an offer like that? I'm not advocating a deal for Skubal really just wondering if the Sox could be players for a trade piece of that level without almost instantly regretting what we gave up. I'd be ok giving up the deal above, conversely if we traded Anthony, Cespedes, Yorke and Wikelman I'd probably cry (kidding, not kidding).
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Post by cdj on Jul 22, 2024 16:59:35 GMT -5
I liked the Rengifo rumors but the wrist injury complicates things
Mashes lefties, can play all over the place, can run
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 22, 2024 17:05:54 GMT -5
I liked the Rengifo rumors but the wrist injury complicates things Mashes lefties, can play all over the place, can run His peripherals are super concerning though. Makes me a little weary of him.
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