badfishnbc
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Doing you all a favor and leaving through the gate in right field since 2012.
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Post by badfishnbc on Jul 26, 2024 16:46:21 GMT -5
My initial impression of these prospects is I think I would’ve been on board with the Red Sox giving out their equivalent. Though giving the Rays prospects is scary always probably something like... Zanetello or Castro/Wikelman/Coffey? atleast by prospect rankings/positions, I'd consider it. This is exactly the type of package I'd be comfortable parting with. Substitute Yorke for a higher-end return.
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 26, 2024 17:10:12 GMT -5
My initial impression of these prospects is I think I would’ve been on board with the Red Sox giving out their equivalent. Though giving the Rays prospects is scary always Same I'd have liked to have gotten efflin but ya the Rays have a keen eye on grabbing the type of players they got back in this deal so who knows.
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Post by pappyman99 on Jul 26, 2024 17:30:23 GMT -5
I mean if Paxton was the add then I guess we might as well sell our rentals
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Post by Legion of Bloom on Jul 26, 2024 18:08:28 GMT -5
I mean if Paxton was the add then I guess we might as well sell our rentals Henry and co. shopping at the value store.
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Post by teddyballgame9 on Jul 26, 2024 18:23:38 GMT -5
I mean if Paxton was the add then I guess we might as well sell our rentals Henry and co. shopping at the value store. I’m waiting til the deadline’s last second to give this Brass the benefit of the doubt. Past years we haven’t made even this level deal at this point. I do think the priority is on pitching and Breslow doesn’t necessarily have the mentality to hoard prospects until proven otherwise. The only reason I think they start moving players is that Cora was extended. I have to think he agreed with the contingency that the team will be improved and the players won’t see a white flag every deadline
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 26, 2024 18:25:58 GMT -5
I want Brent Rooker
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 26, 2024 18:31:07 GMT -5
If he can be had without including the top 4, I’d be moving earth to do this.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 26, 2024 18:36:28 GMT -5
If he can be had without including the top 4, I’d be moving earth to do this. Agreed. I’d go Cespedes straight up if they’d take it, without a single thought
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 26, 2024 18:37:45 GMT -5
Dipoto is honestly just any one of us playing MLB The Show in franchise mode
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 26, 2024 18:56:38 GMT -5
I saw where MIL are shopping for a LH bat with Yelich on the shelf and thought maybe we could do a baseball trade. However they don't have many exciting RH bats that are likely available and those that are have reverse splits. Oh well.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 26, 2024 19:33:36 GMT -5
If he can be had without including the top 4, I’d be moving earth to do this. Agreed. I’d go Cespedes straight up if they’d take it, without a single thought Unfortunately I think it would cost Campbell, Yorke and Sandlin. He’s not gonna be cheap seeing he has 3.5 years of control. Naturally, Craig and Co aren’t gonna be doing this if this is the ask.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 26, 2024 21:26:24 GMT -5
Agreed. I’d go Cespedes straight up if they’d take it, without a single thought Unfortunately I think it would cost Campbell, Yorke and Sandlin. He’s not gonna be cheap seeing he has 3.5 years of control. Naturally, Craig and Co aren’t gonna be doing this if this is the ask. I’m probably in the minority here but I might take that if I’m Breslow - swap Campbell for Cespedes or Bleis and I think I’m definitely in
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 26, 2024 21:43:51 GMT -5
I'm assuming CB2 was in the sky box tonight and I'm looking for a flurry of trades tonight before the adrenaline wears off...
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 26, 2024 21:46:54 GMT -5
Unfortunately I think it would cost Campbell, Yorke and Sandlin. He’s not gonna be cheap seeing he has 3.5 years of control. Naturally, Craig and Co aren’t gonna be doing this if this is the ask. I’m probably in the minority here but I might take that if I’m Breslow - swap Campbell for Cespedes or Bleis and I think I’m definitely in Rooker scares me. Righty DH only having a career year at 29. Never really played a full season. Don’t like the vibes
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 26, 2024 21:47:13 GMT -5
I'm assuming CB2 was in the sky box tonight and I'm looking for a flurry of trades tonight before the adrenaline wears off... If he does that what would we have left to do on Tuesday?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jul 26, 2024 21:47:59 GMT -5
Agreed. I’d go Cespedes straight up if they’d take it, without a single thought Unfortunately I think it would cost Campbell, Yorke and Sandlin. He’s not gonna be cheap seeing he has 3.5 years of control. Naturally, Craig and Co aren’t gonna be doing this if this is the ask. Exactly. They've made it a goal to build an org capable of developing starting pitching talent. That would be subverted by trading Sandlin for one.
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Post by Foulke_In_Athol on Jul 26, 2024 21:55:36 GMT -5
I mean if Paxton was the add then I guess we might as well sell our rentals Henry and co. shopping at the value store. Hmmm maybe they can say "Hi" to Reese McGuire, while theyre there, hes busy in the parking lot.
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Post by sxfan on Jul 26, 2024 21:57:27 GMT -5
Rafael Devers-
-5 Outs above Average. -6 Defensive Runs Saved at third base.
You don't trade Vaughn Grissom, who has the ability to take over this position (third base) for the Sox (mostly full-time, while Devers fills in 40-60 games a year).
Unless you make a trade or signing to replace Devers at the position (which I don't anticipate happening).
I welcome young Vaughn Grissom back with open arms. He's still one of the best pieces of the foreseeable future here.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 26, 2024 22:00:14 GMT -5
Rafael Devers- -5 Outs above Average. -6 Defensive Runs Saved at third base. You don't trade Vaughn Grissom, who has the ability to take over this position (third base) for the Sox (mostly full-time, while Devers fills in 40-60 games a year). Unless you make a trade or signing to replace Devers at the position (which I don't anticipate happening). I welcome young Vaughn Grissom back with open arms. He's still one of the best pieces of the foreseeable future here. But Vaughn Grissom is also a terrible defender and hasn’t really played third so I don’t know why we should assume he’d be better than Devers there
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Post by sxfan on Jul 26, 2024 22:07:09 GMT -5
Rafael Devers- -5 Outs above Average. -6 Defensive Runs Saved at third base. You don't trade Vaughn Grissom, who has the ability to take over this position (third base) for the Sox (mostly full-time, while Devers fills in 40-60 games a year). Unless you make a trade or signing to replace Devers at the position (which I don't anticipate happening). I welcome young Vaughn Grissom back with open arms. He's still one of the best pieces of the foreseeable future here. But Vaughn Grissom is also a terrible defender and hasn’t really played third so I don’t know why we should assume he’d be better than Devers there Is it better dealing with the unknown versus dealing with what you know will be below average at the end of the season? Sometimes no because it can always be worse, but I have a feeling a infield of Grissom (third base), Story (SS), David Hamilton (2B), Cassas (first base) would be pretty solid overall if taken the chance...
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Post by cdj on Jul 26, 2024 22:32:51 GMT -5
But Vaughn Grissom is also a terrible defender and hasn’t really played third so I don’t know why we should assume he’d be better than Devers there Is it better dealing with the unknown versus dealing with what you know will be below average at the end of the season? Sometimes no because it can always be worse, but I have a feeling a infield of Grissom (third base), Story (SS), David Hamilton (2B), Cassas (first base) would be pretty solid overall if taken the chance... With Story under contract I think Mayer plays 3B part time if anybody spells Devers over there
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Post by asm18 on Jul 26, 2024 22:36:42 GMT -5
When it comes to starting pitchers and position players, I feel like it’s easier to have an informed opinion.
But relievers are weird. Craig Breslow is probably one of the most qualified people in baseball to locate good relief help at the deadline, but man is it hard. Just in recent Red Sox history:
2021 - Hansel Robles, Austin Davis
2018 - N/A
2017 - Addison Reed
2016 - Brad Ziegler
Ziegler had a 1.52 ERA in 33 games, so I guess that worked out. Robles had success but might have also killed multiple people with heart attacks. Austin Davis nearly drowned the 2021 season by trash-talking Juan Soto in Washington the last series of the year. And all I remember of Addison Reed is that John Farrell tried to pull him in the middle of an at-bat but couldn’t because the pitching coach hadn’t literally just met with him a pitch before.
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Post by sxfan on Jul 26, 2024 22:38:14 GMT -5
Is it better dealing with the unknown versus dealing with what you know will be below average at the end of the season? Sometimes no because it can always be worse, but I have a feeling a infield of Grissom (third base), Story (SS), David Hamilton (2B), Cassas (first base) would be pretty solid overall if taken the chance... With Story under contract I think Mayer plays 3B part time if anybody spells Devers over there That may be true if all the stars aligned and everything worked out perfectly, but it doesn't in MLB. Story is a high injury risk moving forward (overall) and I think the Sox will need Mayer there (at Short Stop) in the future more than Story.
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Post by wanderingdude on Jul 26, 2024 22:38:30 GMT -5
I’m probably in the minority here but I might take that if I’m Breslow - swap Campbell for Cespedes or Bleis and I think I’m definitely in Rooker scares me. Righty DH only having a career year at 29. Never really played a full season. Don’t like the vibes He also strikes out a TON. He’s a fun player and has had a great year but if i’m giving up the prospects i think you'd have to i would want that player to not be DH only and a much cleaner fit.
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Post by wildsox on Jul 26, 2024 23:56:53 GMT -5
I’d absolutely love Vladdy to go with Devers
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