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Post by Don Caballero on Jul 27, 2024 0:44:27 GMT -5
Ah man, THE ROBLENATOR, one of the most fun bad players I ever watched. Dude always had a random good game out of him.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 27, 2024 2:11:42 GMT -5
Rooker scares me. Righty DH only having a career year at 29. Never really played a full season. Don’t like the vibes He also strikes out a TON. He’s a fun player and has had a great year but if i’m giving up the prospects i think you'd have to i would want that player to not be DH only and a much cleaner fit. Fangraphs did an excellent article on Rooker recently that converted me on him. He may K a hefty amount, but dude would absolutely destroy Fenway. I’d totally make a move for him at the right price.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 27, 2024 2:59:15 GMT -5
What would Tanner Scott cost?
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 27, 2024 5:59:36 GMT -5
What can they get for Pivetta & O’Neill ?
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Post by lronhoyabembe on Jul 27, 2024 6:04:32 GMT -5
What can they get for Pivetta & O’Neill ? A playoff berth.
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Post by cdj on Jul 27, 2024 9:32:14 GMT -5
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 27, 2024 9:36:09 GMT -5
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 9:37:08 GMT -5
Does that describe Enmmanuel Valdez?
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 27, 2024 9:42:33 GMT -5
Does that describe Enmmanuel Valdez? It does. And Vaughn Grissom, but that seems unlikely
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Post by incandenza on Jul 27, 2024 9:42:38 GMT -5
Dalbec for Tanner Scott!
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 27, 2024 9:43:49 GMT -5
Does that describe Enmmanuel Valdez? Also Grissom (but I’m not sure he counts since he’s on the IL and wouldn’t make sense for a reliever), Dalbec, Heineman (but he wouldn’t make sense), Keller and Wingenter Valdez is probably the best bet
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 27, 2024 9:44:50 GMT -5
Give me Ryan Walker of the Giants.
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Post by incandenza on Jul 27, 2024 9:47:32 GMT -5
I like Valdez and would worry that he may have a Dan Uggla-esque career in him, but the logic of trading him is pretty overwhelming. Among their bevy of 2B options you'd rather have a righty; and for a lefty middle infielder you'd rather have Hamilton. It's hard to imagine a role for him on the team in 2025.
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Post by orcoaster on Jul 27, 2024 9:50:15 GMT -5
I'd love to see a trade for Blake Snell. His line this year is awful, but his last three starts have been great. 18ip, 6h, 2r, 5/15 BB/SO. He has a $30m player option which he'll likely take and would scare most teams. Boston could absorb it though, and it's only one season. Along with Paxton, the team could utilize a six man rotation, and/or give weeks off to Houck, Crawford, and Bello. Snell is a guy you want in your playoff rotation.
Assuming Boston takes Snell's full contract, maybe Lugo/Yorke, Meidroth + gets it done? I'd bet there's a package that doesn't include our top 7 prospects that could work.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 9:52:35 GMT -5
Does that describe Enmmanuel Valdez? Also Grissom (but I’m not sure he counts since he’s on the IL and wouldn’t make sense for a reliever), Dalbec, Heineman (but he wouldn’t make sense), Keller and Wingenter Valdez is probably the best bet Yeah, I was also thinking Grissom for Carlos Estevez, which while I like Estevez, I wouldn't do because I like Grissom a lot better.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Jul 27, 2024 9:54:13 GMT -5
Please, Scott or Finnegan.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 27, 2024 9:55:06 GMT -5
I like Valdez and would worry that he may have a Dan Uggla-esque career in him, but the logic of trading him is pretty overwhelming. Among their bevy of 2B options you'd rather have a righty; and for a lefty middle infielder you'd rather have Hamilton. It's hard to imagine a role for him on the team in 2025. I dont know if his defense will get to the point he could really be a major league 2b and he still doesnt hit lefties and he hasn't exactly demolished righties yet either. I feel like there's something there with him, but I'm not sure he reaches it and I dont really see it happening with the Sox. At best he might be a 2nd division platoon starting 2b?
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 27, 2024 9:59:40 GMT -5
It would be slightly annoying to trade Valdez at this exact moment because the org's best lineup vs righties probably includes him at 2B
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Post by incandenza on Jul 27, 2024 10:04:16 GMT -5
I like Valdez and would worry that he may have a Dan Uggla-esque career in him, but the logic of trading him is pretty overwhelming. Among their bevy of 2B options you'd rather have a righty; and for a lefty middle infielder you'd rather have Hamilton. It's hard to imagine a role for him on the team in 2025. I dont know if his defense will get to the point he could really be a major league 2b and he still doesnt hit lefties and he hasn't exactly demolished righties yet either. I feel like there's something there with him, but I'm not sure he reaches it and I dont really see it happening with the Sox. At best he might be a 2nd division platoon starting 2b? Why I made the Uggla comparison: he had a 23 WAR career based on a 109 wRC+ and -36 UZR/-64 DRS defense. The bar for an MLB-caliber second baseman just isn't that high. He'd probably need to learn to hit lefties at least a little bit but it's not like that's inconceivable.
Having said that, Grissom and maybe even Yorke probably have better shots at an Uggla-esque career; hence Valdez' expendability.
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Post by scottysmalls on Jul 27, 2024 10:10:33 GMT -5
It would be slightly annoying to trade Valdez at this exact moment because the org's best lineup vs righties probably includes him at 2B I agree but I also have a hard time seeing them putting him back on the roster unless someone else is traded or hurt. They’ve clearly prioritized having someone to hit lefties in that roster spot, so if it’s not Westbrook it’ll be Grissom. In September they’d bring him back but he’d probably be out by the playoffs again.
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Post by pappyman99 on Jul 27, 2024 10:11:36 GMT -5
We can’t have qualms about trading Valdez he is a defensive liability and certainly no room for him either way
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Post by carmenfanzone on Jul 27, 2024 10:13:28 GMT -5
It would be slightly annoying to trade Valdez at this exact moment because the org's best lineup vs righties probably includes him at 2B Respectfully disagree. His defense at 2nd is below average. Hamilton's is at least average. The advantage Hamilton brings on defense and his speed advantage outweighs whatever advantage Valdez has as a hitter, if any. Both of them currently have a .767 OPS against right hand pitchers.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 27, 2024 10:16:24 GMT -5
Hamilton is playing SS in that lineup
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Post by incandenza on Jul 27, 2024 10:22:11 GMT -5
It would be slightly annoying to trade Valdez at this exact moment because the org's best lineup vs righties probably includes him at 2B They seem weirdly low on him. I know they've been facing lefties, but they've been facing righties too, and Valdez had a .900 OPS or something since his last stint in AAA but they sent him down anyway. In favor of Westbrook who a) isn't even a defensive improvement, and b) has proceeded to hit .105/.190/.316.
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Post by puzzler on Jul 27, 2024 10:30:25 GMT -5
It would be slightly annoying to trade Valdez at this exact moment because the org's best lineup vs righties probably includes him at 2B They seem weirdly low on him. I know they've been facing lefties, but they've been facing righties too, and Valdez had a .900 OPS or something since his last stint in AAA but they sent him down anyway. In favor of Westbrook who a) isn't even a defensive improvement, and b) has proceeded to hit .105/.190/.316. I'm pretty sure his throwing error on a very routine play that wasn't within 5 feet of the bag had a lot to do with it. Also, since they seem to win pretty regularly against RH pitching without him, I think they rightly decided his excess offense isn't needed as much as help against LHs and better defense. Since they have a bunch of potential options down the stretch, Valdez is a player without a spot.
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