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Post by asm18 on Jul 27, 2024 22:11:27 GMT -5
For the folks pissed that Breslow hasn’t gotten more relievers yet, you’ll be pleased to know there is deadline in 2.5 days that teams have to complete any such a transaction
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 27, 2024 22:12:11 GMT -5
Sad part is, I feel like management felt this was a throw away year and they are happy to just to be in contention and relevant. Keeps fans going to games, watching on TV, and buying gear. But we have come to the point where they are literally throwing it away with inaction. I think that’s a little premature. Let’s see what happens by 4pm Tuesday.
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Post by briam on Jul 27, 2024 22:12:43 GMT -5
For the folks pissed that Breslow hasn’t gotten more relievers yet, you’ll be pleased to know there is deadline in 2.5 days that teams have to complete any such a transaction Nice, that’ll really help when they play these games back.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 27, 2024 22:13:09 GMT -5
Trades can be made at any time. The Royals traded for a reliever before the all star break. We’ve now watched 8 games of horrible relief from this bullpen, which has cost multiple games. With the spot this team is in, 1,2,3 games could be the different between the play offs and not making the play offs. The lack of urgency is an actual problem
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 27, 2024 22:13:40 GMT -5
Everybody saying wait. Waiting has coat em 3 or 4 games this week.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 27, 2024 22:14:09 GMT -5
people, come on, it is 1 loss. Chillax on the post mortems. It isn’t one loss. It’s been multiple losses created by the bullpen, and it still hasn’t been addressed. That’s the frustration. And every loss counts when you’re in a wild card chase. You don’t get a second chance at these games, and now you’ve got one fewer opportunity to make up ground
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Post by markm7 on Jul 27, 2024 22:14:50 GMT -5
Everybody saying wait. Waiting has coat em 3 or 4 games this week. What buying team has made more trades than them
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Post by briam on Jul 27, 2024 22:14:53 GMT -5
people, come on, it is 1 loss. Chillax on the post mortems. Typically I’m with you, but it’s not 1 game. 2-6 since the ASB with 8 blown saves. Considering how tight the wild card is, every game matters and right now they’re punting away much needed wins left and right.
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Post by wildsox on Jul 27, 2024 22:14:58 GMT -5
Trades can be made at any time. The Royals traded for a reliever before the all star break. We’ve now watched 8 games of horrible relief from this bullpen, which has cost multiple games. With the spot this team is in, 1,2,3 games could be the different between the play offs and not making the play offs. The lack of urgency is an actual problem Anti-Dombrowski. He may have overpaid but he didn’t wait around for a “deadline” if he saw a hole. I referenced the Ziegler trade earlier
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Post by jbuttah on Jul 27, 2024 22:15:01 GMT -5
Gonna be interesting with Breslow does now. My guess is he does nothing major. Any trades will be with an eye for next year. And I don't necessarily disagree with that. Because...
Tanner Houck 23-106, 24-123 innings pitched Butter Crawford, 23-129, 24-122
They are not gonna make it to October.
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Post by grandsalami on Jul 27, 2024 22:15:48 GMT -5
Everybody saying wait. Waiting has coat em 3 or 4 games this week. Sure. And it takes two to tango. Teams are hoping for a bidding war. So unless you severely overpay early in the season they will wait till closer to the deadline. Today is a perfect example. We have had more trades today than we had the rest of july combined
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Post by wildsox on Jul 27, 2024 22:16:04 GMT -5
people, come on, it is 1 loss. Chillax on the post mortems. Typically I’m with you, but it’s not 1 game. 2-6 since the ASB with 8 blown saves. Considering how tight the wild card is, every game matters and right now they’re punting away much needed wins left and right. Agreed. It’s one game against your biggest rival with a chance to really crush them and put a ton of pressure on them tomorrow
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 27, 2024 22:16:31 GMT -5
Everybody saying wait. Waiting has coat em 3 or 4 games this week. What buying team has made more trades than them Danny Jansen is not a substantial improvement. It is also not a glaring need to improve their back up catcher. Reese hasn’t been the reason they’ve lost games, the bullpen has been. They have not addressed the bullpen at all.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 27, 2024 22:18:14 GMT -5
For the folks pissed that Breslow hasn’t gotten more relievers yet, you’ll be pleased to know there is deadline in 2.5 days that teams have to complete any such a transaction Nice, that’ll really help when they play these games back. They’re one game back of the wild card and 5.5 out of the division - what you do you want them to do? Throw themselves off the Zakim Bridge because they played a shitty game? We got Houck tomorrow, we got a chance to win the series. We play on
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Post by markm7 on Jul 27, 2024 22:20:03 GMT -5
What buying team has made more trades than them Danny Jansen is not a substantial improvement. It is also not a glaring need to improve their back up catcher. Reese hasn’t been the reason they’ve lost games, the bullpen has been. They have not addressed the bullpen at all. You people beg the front office to improve the team and make trades. The front office improves the team and makes trades. You people complain that’s not the improvement we want. No winning with Boston fans
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 27, 2024 22:22:31 GMT -5
Danny Jansen is not a substantial improvement. It is also not a glaring need to improve their back up catcher. Reese hasn’t been the reason they’ve lost games, the bullpen has been. They have not addressed the bullpen at all. You people beg the front office to improve the team and make trades. The front office improves the team and makes trades. You people complain that’s not the improvement we want. No winning with Boston fans Not only is Danny Jansen a very minor improvement, he’s a very minor improvement on a position that doesn’t impact the team nearly as much as the bullpen which has been costing us games. Glad that we improved it, sure, but focusing on the area of the team that is actually losing games would make sense.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 27, 2024 22:22:36 GMT -5
Danny Jansen is not a substantial improvement. It is also not a glaring need to improve their back up catcher. Reese hasn’t been the reason they’ve lost games, the bullpen has been. They have not addressed the bullpen at all. You people beg the front office to improve the team and make trades. The front office improves the team and makes trades. You people complain that’s not the improvement we want. No winning with Boston fans "You People". "No winning with Boston fans". Have you just outed yourself?
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 27, 2024 22:22:59 GMT -5
Trades can be made at any time. The Royals traded for a reliever before the all star break. We’ve now watched 8 games of horrible relief from this bullpen, which has cost multiple games. With the spot this team is in, 1,2,3 games could be the different between the play offs and not making the play offs. The lack of urgency is an actual problem Fun fact most people don’t know - both teams need to agree on a trade!! You can’t assume the Red Sox intentions just because a trade wasn’t made, most teams aren’t going to want to make decisions with incomplete information. It’s not like this is a Red Sox-specific issue given that you’re pointing out a very obvious exception to the timeline.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 27, 2024 22:24:03 GMT -5
Everybody saying wait. Waiting has coat em 3 or 4 games this week. They’ve likely had trades on the table but the asks have been for way too much, i.e. the big 4. There’s a careful balance here to strike deals at the right time so you don’t overpay by a crazy amount.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 27, 2024 22:24:29 GMT -5
You people beg the front office to improve the team and make trades. The front office improves the team and makes trades. You people complain that’s not the improvement we want. No winning with Boston fans "You People". "No winning with Boston fans". Have you just outed yourself? Finally an admission of Troll-dom.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Jul 27, 2024 22:25:29 GMT -5
Everybody saying wait. Waiting has coat em 3 or 4 games this week. They’ve likely had trades on the table but the asks have been for way too much, i.e. the big 4. There’s a careful balance here to strike deals at the right time so you don’t overpay by a crazy amount. And with every loss like tonight’s the other teams have better bargaining power.
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Post by TearsIn04 on Jul 27, 2024 22:26:45 GMT -5
Some thoughts:
1. Hurt and pissed. 2. When I heard about the Jansen trade this afternoon, I wondered what the point was. After watching Wong flagrantly trying to jerk pitches into the strike zone, I understood it. 3. TON's defensive metrics aren't terrible, but he too often looks awkward and hesitant in the OF. I like him on the '25 team as a DH on a two- or three-year deal. 4. Since I don't expect to get much sleep tonight after this loss, maybe I'll think of a play I've seen in my lifetime of watching this game that was more dumb-ass than Little Raffy getting caught off 3rd base.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Jul 27, 2024 22:27:01 GMT -5
Even worse than I thought - from NESN site "Boston’s bullpen issues are glaring at the moment. The Red Sox have now blown a lead in the seventh inning or later in seven out of eight games since the All-Star break."
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Post by briam on Jul 27, 2024 22:27:38 GMT -5
Nice, that’ll really help when they play these games back. They’re one game back of the wild card and 5.5 out of the division - what you do you want them to do? Throw themselves off the Zakim Bridge because they played a shitty game? We got Houck tomorrow, we got a chance to win the series. We play on Well Houck better go all 9 because the bullpen is not only water trash right now, but it’s completely spent. Which is why they should/need to address it instead of blowing win after win in a tight playoff race. The market has been moving, no excuses.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 27, 2024 22:28:32 GMT -5
They’ve likely had trades on the table but the asks have been for way too much, i.e. the big 4. There’s a careful balance here to strike deals at the right time so you don’t overpay by a crazy amount. And with every loss like tonight’s the other teams have better bargaining power. So what exactly is your solution here? Overpay for the sake of getting a deal done? You don’t really seem to get how trades, work. You can’t just force your will on another team, if you want to make trades happen more quickly you have to overpay and then you and the same group of people who throw a hissy fit after each loss would complain at the overpayment. It’s a no-win situation if you’re not going to actually take a breath and think about how the industry works beyond the surface level.
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