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Post by patford on Jul 29, 2024 13:02:45 GMT -5
Not a fan of this trade but there was really no spot for Yorke with Duran in LF and if Grissom can stay healthy.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 29, 2024 13:02:53 GMT -5
I expected the team to trade from their middle inf depth. It appears that Arias, Cespedes, Campbell and perhaps Zanetello and Romero have by passed Yorke in managements eyes. Campbell is a monster so it looks like Yorke was redundant at this point.
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Post by shagworthy on Jul 29, 2024 13:03:36 GMT -5
You can never have too much pitching, but you can have too many MIFs who are better suited to LF. I hate to give up on Yorke, but rosters are a number game. And Yorke’s number as a MIF was not likely to be called. Cynical question: when does Bobby get dealt? I’d be shocked if they could get a pack of baseball cards for him at this point. Bobby's next deal is with the Doosan Bears. If ever a dude needed to go overseas for a bit.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 29, 2024 13:04:10 GMT -5
Not a fan of this trade but there was really no spot for Yorke with Duran in LF and if Grissom can stay healthy. Grissom is still very much a project so I'm not slotting him for anything just yet. He has the inside track, but I'm not trading away guys because of him either.
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Post by rkarp on Jul 29, 2024 13:06:54 GMT -5
what struck me as odd was that the RS were willing to try everyone and anyone at 2B once Grisson went down, except Yorke. I am of the opinion that he deserved a shot. now maybe others have a higher ceiling than he, but they had the need now, and he is most ready now
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Post by chaimtime on Jul 29, 2024 13:08:41 GMT -5
Not a fan of this trade but there was really no spot for Yorke with Duran in LF and if Grissom can stay healthy. What’s not to like? Traded from the glut of middle infielders for a pitcher who was a better prospect than Yorke ever was as recently as last year. Seems like a pretty efficient move.
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Post by ixnayexxus on Jul 29, 2024 13:09:08 GMT -5
Right now I'm whelmed; next comes the waiting game
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Post by ematz1423 on Jul 29, 2024 13:09:11 GMT -5
Go get a reliever call it a deadline and see if the team has enough to make a run the next few months.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jul 29, 2024 13:09:18 GMT -5
I like the idea of the trade but don't know if I'll ultimately like the trade.
The Sox have surplus of 2b and there's no way Breslow traded Chris Sale to acquire Grissom just so they can give up on him so quickly after injuries and illness.
Breslow decided Grissom is the best long term candidate for 2b rather than Yorke, although I wonder what Campbell's burst onto the scene is regarded as, but he can play OF, which Yorke really doesnt do naturally.
So I like that they're getting a young controllable starting pitcher but I dont know what kind of ceiling Priester has and I doubt he really helps the 2024 Red Sox as his numbers have been largely uninspiring.
Of course he's a long term investment. I guess he has some pedigree but I dont know if they see him as a cheap back end or if they think he can be a mid rotation starter.
I dont really subscribe to the Andrew Bailey and company will fix him thing as I watch the Red Sox pitching fail nightly now. Hope I'm wrong but I just dont think that the Sox have the secret sauce in Bailey that other teams dont have and I say that as a guy who likes Bailey and thinks he's doing a good job but am weary of treating him like he'll magically fix pitchers. I'm still wondering why Bello has struggled so much, when he should be improving.
The idea behind the trade was good. And I hope Priester makes it 3 former Pitates who succeed in Boston joining Tim Wakefield and Bronson Arroyo, but that remains to be seen. Yorke should be useful to the Pirates, an everyday regular.
I just hope Breslow made the right 2b decision. I think he did, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 29, 2024 13:11:12 GMT -5
Yorke was extremely blocked. Hamilton is pretty good, Grissom they want to give some real run to still, and Story could easily be playing 2B one year from today. Meidroth had clearly passed Yorke in the org's eyes. They also have Romy and Valdez as totally fine back end 40 man depth at 2B.
Normally when you're in a rush to dump a prospect you get lousy value. Getting Priester is fantastic.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Jul 29, 2024 13:11:16 GMT -5
what struck me as odd was that the RS were willing to try everyone and anyone at 2B once Grisson went down, except Yorke. I am of the opinion that he deserved a shot. now maybe others have a higher ceiling than he, but they had the need now, and he is most ready now Plenty of other 2B options. Also clearly were concerned with his inability to hit LHP. Excellent timing to sell high on Yorke while you could.
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Post by asm18 on Jul 29, 2024 13:11:56 GMT -5
The 40 Man roster was at 39 so no countermove seems necessary at the moment.
Priester was working out of the MLB bullpen for PIT in what looks to be some sort of bulk/long relief role. I guess the question is where they envision him once he gets here..
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Post by Jimmy on Jul 29, 2024 13:12:34 GMT -5
what struck me as odd was that the RS were willing to try everyone and anyone at 2B once Grisson went down, except Yorke. I am of the opinion that he deserved a shot. now maybe others have a higher ceiling than he, but they had the need now, and he is most ready now Probably because they were trying to trade him all along and a Jackson Holiday start would have potentially diminished his value
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 29, 2024 13:13:54 GMT -5
Sad to see Yorke go. Besides being a righty bat he appeared to be ascending. Unfortunately this team is desperate for though I doubt this guy sees Boston this year. Bailey do your thing.
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Post by cdj on Jul 29, 2024 13:14:10 GMT -5
Yorke was extremely blocked. Hamilton is pretty good, Grissom they want to give some real run to still, and Story could easily be playing 2B one year from today. Meidroth had clearly passed Yorke in the org's eyes. They also have Romy and Valdez as totally fine back end 40 man depth at 2B. Normally when you're in a rush to dump a prospect you get lousy value. Getting Priester is fantastic. Agree for the most part but I’ll push back on the org having meidroth clearly ahead of Yorke. Sure they moved him up to Worcester first, but imo that doesn’t really speak to who they think has the higher ceiling or more value
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Post by manfred on Jul 29, 2024 13:14:10 GMT -5
Wow… I expected reactions to be negative. I’m pleasantly surprised. I think trading a solid 2b prospect for a young 1st round pitcher is 100% worth it. I hope they can get him fixed fast, but even if it is a project, it could be another young arm going forward.
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Post by trotman on Jul 29, 2024 13:15:07 GMT -5
what struck me as odd was that the RS were willing to try everyone and anyone at 2B once Grisson went down, except Yorke. I am of the opinion that he deserved a shot. now maybe others have a higher ceiling than he, but they had the need now, and he is most ready now Probably because they were trying to trade him all along and a Jackson Holiday start would have potentially diminished his value That and Yorke is not on the 40-man.
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Post by redsoxfan2 on Jul 29, 2024 13:15:32 GMT -5
I like the idea of the trade but don't know if I'll ultimately like the trade. The Sox have surplus of 2b and there's no way Breslow traded Chris Sale to acquire Grissom just so they can give up on him so quickly after injuries and illness. Breslow decided Grissom is the best long term candidate for 2b rather than Yorke, although I wonder what Campbell's burst onto the scene is regarded as, but he can play OF, which Yorke really doesnt do naturally. So I like that they're getting a young controllable starting pitcher but I dont know what kind of ceiling Priester has and I doubt he really help the 2024 Red Sox as his numbers have been largely uninspiring. Of course he's a long term investment. I guess he has some pedigree but I dont know if they see him as a cheap back end or if they think he can be a mid rotation starter. I dont really subscribe to the Andrew Bailey and company will fix him thing as I watch the Red Sox pitching fail nightly now. Hope I'm wrong but I just ont think that the Sox have the secret sauce in Baileu that other teams dint have and I say that as a guy who likes Bailey and thinks he's doing a good job but an weary of treating him like he'll magically fix pitchers. I'm still wondering why Bello has struggled so much, when he should be improving. The idea behind the trade was good. And I hope Priester makes it 3 former Pitates who succeed in Boston joining Tim Wakefield and Bronson Arroyo, but that remains to be seen. Yorke should be useful to the Pirates, an everyday regular. I just hope Breslow made the right 2b decision. I think he did, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. They also got relief from half of Sale's contract. I don't know how married Breslow is to Grissom. I agree you don't give up on him after being plagued with injury and illness, but he might also have been "best available prospect" while also getting a team to eat 16 million for a guy who was highly questionable to give you 15 starts. I think Grissom will get his chance, but Breslow won't hesitate to move on from him if better options present themselves. He should be a good bat (Pedroia-lite), but an absolute butcher defensively that they're hoping can be somewhat fixed with regular reps at 2B.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 29, 2024 13:15:52 GMT -5
Yorke was extremely blocked. Hamilton is pretty good, Grissom they want to give some real run to still, and Story could easily be playing 2B one year from today. Meidroth had clearly passed Yorke in the org's eyes. They also have Romy and Valdez as totally fine back end 40 man depth at 2B. Normally when you're in a rush to dump a prospect you get lousy value. Getting Priester is fantastic. All good except for the claim about the soft-hitting Meidroth. He has a chance to make it if he hits the ball harder some year (Boggs never slugged 400 in milb until he was 23), but is much worse of a prospect than Yorke. Yorke will hit in mlb.
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Post by nomar on Jul 29, 2024 13:15:54 GMT -5
I’ll always root for Yorke, but he’s riding an unsustainable BB% and BABIP in AAA and has a 136 wRC+ which is great, but unremarkable if you were to adjust for those 2 outliers. This is not to say he can’t make it as a starting 2B, but his ceiling seems limited. Then if you factor in that he struggles against LHP, and that he hits a lot of balls to right center which is tough for a fringy powered RHB at Fenway, he made a lot of sense to sell high on.
Priester is a reclamation project but he’s probably a decent bet to be of help in the bullpen down the stretch, and he comes with a lot of control. A good risk to take IMO.
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Post by cba82 on Jul 29, 2024 13:16:50 GMT -5
Is Pittsburgh so pitching-rich that they were willing to deal him in a one-for-one swap? Not sure I understand the trade from their perspective.
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Post by jimoh on Jul 29, 2024 13:17:01 GMT -5
Also, thank you Polar Park?
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 29, 2024 13:17:22 GMT -5
Breslow decided Grissom is the best long term candidate for 2b rather than Yorke, although I wonder what Campbell's burst onto the scene is regarded as, but he can play OF, which Yorke really doesnt do naturally. I really hope they right. It's been one thing after another for Grissom, all in all a huge disappointment.
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Post by Jimmy on Jul 29, 2024 13:18:09 GMT -5
I think one side is gonna end up really hating this trade
Can’t tell which yet.. so probably a fair deal
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Post by shagworthy on Jul 29, 2024 13:19:03 GMT -5
It's a decent trade considering our weaknesses in the minors and the glut of IF's we have. Too early for me to judge Bailey one way or the other, everyone was calling him a savant early in the season when the Sox staff was lights out, but now that they are regressing to the median not so much. That said, I was not a fan of Dave Bush or Brian Bannester.
Yorke was blocked in so many ways, and lets not forget his promotion to AAA was more because they needed room for other up and comers in AA than his performance there. Wish him well, hope the trend of pitchers getting away from Pittsburg and discovering success continues.
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