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Post by keninten on Aug 17, 2024 22:17:15 GMT -5
Durran Great
Bello Great
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Post by pd on Aug 17, 2024 22:17:37 GMT -5
Still don’t trust the lead lol negative ghost rider. Free your mind. Ride the Wave. Feel the Cosmic flow. User name checks out.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 17, 2024 22:18:01 GMT -5
O's removing Povich against Wong was a huge mistake. Wong was swinging at anything thrown outside. Yoshida made them pay for it.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 17, 2024 22:20:10 GMT -5
Red Sox were 64-58 last year through 122 games. Now 65-57. Much different vibe though... Ideally won’t go 9-19 in September this time around 😁
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Post by keninten on Aug 17, 2024 22:21:38 GMT -5
Wasn`t Rafaela`s catch a month or 2 ago similar to Durran`s tonight?
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Post by tjb21 on Aug 17, 2024 22:32:44 GMT -5
Going to miss Chris Martin next year. What a fun pitcher to root for.
Also, can’t say enough about Yoshida. He’s just a unique hitter. Can’t think of a comparison.
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Post by keninten on Aug 17, 2024 22:35:01 GMT -5
I`d hate to move Jarren to LF. The scoreboard is not padded.
I`m also scared he might run thru the garage doors in CF.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Aug 17, 2024 23:30:12 GMT -5
Tbh I hope it’s rained out. The boys could use a day of rest tomorrow before a huge series against Houston. A make up could be slotted in Sept. 5th or Sept. 16th after series against both NY teams so the travel wouldn’t be all that bad.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2024 0:59:16 GMT -5
Going to miss Chris Martin next year. What a fun pitcher to root for. Also, can’t say enough about Yoshida. He’s just a unique hitter. Can’t think of a comparison. I'm not convinced they won't bring back Martin and/or Jansen.
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Post by dirtywaterinla on Aug 18, 2024 1:32:59 GMT -5
Going to miss Chris Martin next year. What a fun pitcher to root for. Also, can’t say enough about Yoshida. He’s just a unique hitter. Can’t think of a comparison. I'm not convinced they won't bring back Martin and/or Jansen. I can see Martin happening but seeing Hendriks has a two year deal and can show he’s effective, I don’t think Jansen will be offered a deal.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2024 1:40:22 GMT -5
I'm not convinced they won't bring back Martin and/or Jansen. I can see Martin happening but seeing Hendriks has a two year deal and can show he’s effective, I don’t think Jansen will be offered a deal. I'm not penciling hendriks as being effective and even if he is he'll get just a few million. Hardly enough to say they can't bring back Jansen if they want to.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Aug 18, 2024 3:42:57 GMT -5
According to a MASN graphic, Sox and O's are tied for 5th in outfield defensive runs saved.
Anybody with MLB.TV that isn't tuning into Palmer and Brown is missing out. Best broadcast in the majors.
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Post by ericmvan on Aug 18, 2024 4:41:35 GMT -5
Yoshida now .345 / .421 / .527 (171 PA) since June 24. 11th in MLB in wRC+.
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Post by ancientsoxfogey on Aug 18, 2024 6:27:21 GMT -5
Interesting comment given your name tag!! But my weather report for today just shows the possibility of intermittent showers in Balmer. Side question: Could Meidroth, offensively, conceivably be equivalent to a RHH Yoshida? Their results profiles are similar -- except for all those walks.
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2024 7:37:41 GMT -5
Interesting comment given your name tag!! But my weather report for today just shows the possibility of intermittent showers in Balmer. Side question: Could Meidroth, offensively, conceivably be equivalent to a RHH Yoshida? Their results profiles are similar -- except for all those walks. As pointed out one post above Yoshida has been one of the best hitters in baseball since June. I'm going to guess no Meidroth doesn't have that type of upside.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 18, 2024 8:49:45 GMT -5
I can see Martin happening but seeing Hendriks has a two year deal and can show he’s effective, I don’t think Jansen will be offered a deal. I'm not penciling hendriks as being effective and even if he is he'll get just a few million. Hardly enough to say they can't bring back Jansen if they want to. What concerns me that if the Sox were able to bring back Kenley and Martin, it would cost them about 25 million and they'd still have bullpen questions. I mean outside of Jansen and Martin and hoping Hendriks is his old self the way Kirby Yates went back to being his old self, my list of trusted relievers probably begins and ends with Slaten, and seeing how a bunch of relievers (Kelly, Weissert, Bernardino and to an extent Booser spring to mind) performing reasonably well coming into July went belly up, who knows if Slaten would have remained effective if he had stayed healthy? So they can pay a lot of money to bring back old proven relievers, who have been the most trustworthy the past 2 seasons, and still find themselves with a lot of question marks or they can hope Hendriks and Fullmer come all the way back from injury and continue to throw spaghetti against the wall and hope it sticks approach that most teams employ and hope for the best. And let's face it, that's why bullpens are so volatile and nothing can elevate or sink a team in the way a bullpen can. My guess is that if neither are willing to accept a hometown discount 1 year deal, theyll move on from Kenley and Martin and redeploy the money to two setup man type relievers with a good amount of track record of success to go with Hendriks and Fullmer, who are question marks themselves trying to bounce back from injuries.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 18, 2024 9:25:14 GMT -5
If the budget is going to be tight in 2025, then yeah paying through the nose for Kenley and other established relievers might not be ideal. But if the team is allowed to spend money again, I don’t see why something like 1 year/15 mil or whatever for Kenley is that big of an issue if they expect him to keep performing. Given how well the “Hall of Fame Closers Who Only Throw Cutters” cohort has tended to age, that seems like a perfectly fine guess
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2024 9:30:00 GMT -5
If the budget is going to be tight in 2025, then yeah paying through the nose for Kenley and other established relievers might not be ideal. But if the team is allowed to spend money again, I don’t see why something like 1 year/15 mil or whatever for Kenley is that big of an issue if they expect him to keep performing. Given how well the “Hall of Fame Closers Who Only Throw Cutters” cohort has tended to age, that seems like a perfectly fine guess They have something like 60-70M to spend to put them around where their payroll is this year so I don't really think they'll have much issue with their budget on FAs.
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Post by asm18 on Aug 18, 2024 9:33:49 GMT -5
Google weather might be lying to me, but it looks like Baltimore may avoid the nastiest of its weather until mid-afternoon (4 pm?) We should have baseball today
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Aug 18, 2024 9:53:00 GMT -5
If the budget is going to be tight in 2025, then yeah paying through the nose for Kenley and other established relievers might not be ideal. But if the team is allowed to spend money again, I don’t see why something like 1 year/15 mil or whatever for Kenley is that big of an issue if they expect him to keep performing. Given how well the “Hall of Fame Closers Who Only Throw Cutters” cohort has tended to age, that seems like a perfectly fine guess He might prefer that 1 year offer if it's coming from the Dodgers. I think it would take 2 years to keep him for sure, although I can see a year and an option as a possibility, but with just 1 year, he'd probably be up for grabs with multiple teams having the need and being able to make a short term commitment. My feeling is that they're not going to try to bring him back.
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Post by notstarboard on Aug 18, 2024 10:08:44 GMT -5
I would prefer not spending much on the pen unless the price is too good to pass up. Upgrade at the top of the rotation and that will do a lot more for the pen than anything else. A lot of the arms that were effective until lately will likely be useful relievers next year, and could thrive all year behind a strong rotation as they wouldn't be overused.
I think some of it will depend on how they view guys like Whitlock, but acquiring an elite starter and committing to make Whitlock a reliever would be another way to meaningfully improve the pen.
I'm not counting my chickens with Hendriks, but I think there's a good chance he'll be able to close next year.
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Post by rhswanzey on Aug 18, 2024 10:29:49 GMT -5
By fWAR, Jansen is tied for the eighth-best relief season this year (Cleveland has three of the top 10!)
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2024 10:57:25 GMT -5
I would prefer not spending much on the pen unless the price is too good to pass up. Upgrade at the top of the rotation and that will do a lot more for the pen than anything else. A lot of the arms that were effective until lately will likely be useful relievers next year, and could thrive all year behind a strong rotation as they wouldn't be overused. I think some of it will depend on how they view guys like Whitlock, but acquiring an elite starter and committing to make Whitlock a reliever would be another way to meaningfully improve the pen. I'm not counting my chickens with Hendriks, but I think there's a good chance he'll be able to close next year. In an ideal world they don't have to allocate much money to their bullpen but on the flipside look how many games they've lost in the last month alone with poor bullpen outings. Whitlock back to the pen could be a big boost so I won't say they don't have some internal options that should be better but I'd still like to see them go spend a good 15-25M in FA on bullpen help this offseason. My mindset could change quickly if Hendriks is able to pitch effectively upon his return this year though.
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Post by soxfanatic on Aug 18, 2024 11:07:04 GMT -5
What's the point of acquiring Danny Jansen if you give him only 32 PA's in his first 20 games here? Not in the line up today...
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Post by ematz1423 on Aug 18, 2024 11:11:49 GMT -5
What's the point of acquiring Danny Jansen if you give him only 32 PA's in his first 20 games here? Not in the line up today... It is puzzling. It's not as if Wong is playing particularly well recently either.
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