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Post by rhswanzey on Sept 4, 2024 21:16:18 GMT -5
I don’t get Hill as a reliever at all, he hasn’t been a reliever consistently for like 10 years… The last time he pitched in back-to-back games, or 3 of 4, was in 2014 (until his first three appearances this season).
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 4, 2024 21:18:41 GMT -5
I don’t get Hill as a reliever at all, he hasn’t been a reliever consistently for like 10 years… The last time he pitched in back-to-back games, or 3 of 4, was in 2014 (until his first three appearances this season). Yeah it’s just inexplicable last time I really remember him as a reliever was when Francona was the manager (he relieved for other teams in between but it’s been a while)
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 4, 2024 21:20:41 GMT -5
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 4, 2024 21:20:59 GMT -5
2022 - first half peak 42-31 on June 26, 30-39 post AS break 2023 - first half peak 48-43 on July 9, 30-41 post AS break 2024 - first half peak 53-43 on Jul 14, 17-27 post AS break (so far)
There has to be something for the organization to learn from this.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Sept 4, 2024 21:23:50 GMT -5
For fun and more interesting baseball starting Friday.. please.
DFA: Heineman, Gasper, Dalbec, and Hill
Option Shugart, Valdez/Sogard (dealer’s choice), and Bernardino
Select: Guerrero, Penrod
Re-instate: Story and Hendriks
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Post by taiwansox on Sept 4, 2024 21:24:35 GMT -5
So I think we QO Pivetta but probably no one else? Fitts, Preistler, Giolito, even Whitlock are all internal starting options next year so maybe no to Pivetta, but probably makes sense to QO. We finally have some pitching depth, but we absolutely need to clean up our catching defense, it’s a disgrace They need a work horse, innings eating starter, a professional hitting right handed bat, two or three reliable bull pen arms just for openers. Maybe the sign Fried but there aren’t really innings eaters these days, Pivetta is actually right up there…but agreed they need to spend on the bullpen, and they probably need a trade for a RHH, but maybe go after someone like Profar who kills LHP?
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 4, 2024 21:38:14 GMT -5
Old friend Ryan Fernandez gets an extra inning zombie runner 1 run save to push the Cards 1 game ahead of the Red Sox
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Post by TearsIn04 on Sept 4, 2024 21:38:36 GMT -5
2022 - first half peak 42-31 on June 26, 30-39 post AS break 2023 - first half peak 48-43 on July 9, 30-41 post AS break 2024 - first half peak 53-43 on Jul 14, 17-27 post AS break (so far) There has to be something for the organization to learn from this. Serious questoin: Would CB2 do the Cora extension again if he could do it all over again? That 2022-'24 is too much to ignore or write off as randomness.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 4, 2024 21:39:09 GMT -5
Team Ranks (MLB)
Offense:
wRC+ - 11th AVG - 5th OBP - 7th SLG - 5th
K rate - 25th BB rate - 18th ISO - 4th WAR - 14th
Steals - 8th BsR WAR - 10th
Pitching:
ERA: 18th FIP: 17th K rate: 19th Walk rate: 5th HR rate: 24th WAR: 13th
Defense:
Errors - 30th Defensive runs saved - 6th Outs Above Average - 22nd
Honestly the biggest takeaway I have from this is if you could clone Dustin Pedroia and put him on this team to provide defense, contact, a good approach, and leadership, that is the one piece (obviously not him, but someone with his attributes) that solves a lot of problems at once. I wonder what Ha Seong Kim’s free agent market looks like?
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Post by finaliz3d on Sept 4, 2024 21:39:10 GMT -5
Cardinals win, Tigers up 3-0, Mariners up 5-1.
Also our pitching has been on par with the White Sox since the ASB... yikes.
We also are averaging 2.7 runs per game over our last 10, White Sox averaging 2.3.
I would be shocked if we sweep the White Sox.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 4, 2024 21:40:23 GMT -5
2022 - first half peak 42-31 on June 26, 30-39 post AS break 2023 - first half peak 48-43 on July 9, 30-41 post AS break 2024 - first half peak 53-43 on Jul 14, 17-27 post AS break (so far) There has to be something for the organization to learn from this. Serious questoin: Would CB2 do the Cora extension again if he could do it all over again? That 2022-'24 is too much to ignore or write off as randomness. not random - part the team Cora was given each year, part Cora's decisions and motivation, part on the players. It's a mess.
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Post by foreverred9 on Sept 4, 2024 21:43:04 GMT -5
2022 - first half peak 42-31 on June 26, 30-39 post AS break 2023 - first half peak 48-43 on July 9, 30-41 post AS break 2024 - first half peak 53-43 on Jul 14, 17-27 post AS break (so far) There has to be something for the organization to learn from this. Not to mention: 2021 - 55-36 at the break, 37-34 after the break 2019 - 49-41 at the break, 35-37 after the break
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Post by keninten on Sept 4, 2024 21:43:08 GMT -5
2022 - first half peak 42-31 on June 26, 30-39 post AS break 2023 - first half peak 48-43 on July 9, 30-41 post AS break 2024 - first half peak 53-43 on Jul 14, 17-27 post AS break (so far) There has to be something for the organization to learn from this. Serious questoin: Would CB2 do the Cora extension again if he could do it all over again? That 2022-'24 is too much to ignore or write off as randomness. I was so pissed off when they extended him. He`s not a leader. He just seems to want everyone to feel good. This team needs to stop pouting and get fired up. If only Sale or Papi were here to fire someone up.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 4, 2024 21:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by wildsox on Sept 4, 2024 21:44:43 GMT -5
2022 - first half peak 42-31 on June 26, 30-39 post AS break 2023 - first half peak 48-43 on July 9, 30-41 post AS break 2024 - first half peak 53-43 on Jul 14, 17-27 post AS break (so far) There has to be something for the organization to learn from this. Serious questoin: Would CB2 do the Cora extension again if he could do it all over again? That 2022-'24 is too much to ignore or write off as randomness. Was wondering that myself. If Cora wasn’t sitting on an extension right now would he be fired for this debacle
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Post by kingstephanos on Sept 4, 2024 21:47:19 GMT -5
That made me genuinely laugh
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Post by asm18 on Sept 4, 2024 21:50:41 GMT -5
That made me genuinely laugh Verdugo being an absolute turd on the Yankees is all we have - no matter why John Henry decides to fire you in three to four years you’ll always nailed that one, Craig
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 4, 2024 21:52:55 GMT -5
OK folks - the revised percentages making playoffs.
Minn 93.7 KC 84.8
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Det 8.0 Bos 7.9 Sea 4.7 - but they are leading their game Tampa 2.5
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Post by incandenza on Sept 4, 2024 21:57:14 GMT -5
I was at this game. First Red Sox game I'd been to in about 20 years. It was sort of like attending a funeral for an old friend you hadn't seen in decades.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 4, 2024 22:12:17 GMT -5
OK folks - the revised percentages making playoffs. Minn 93.7 KC 84.8 then Det 8.0 Bos 7.9 Sea 4.7 - but they are leading their game Tampa 2.5 Even you want to charitably give them the White Sox games - which is sorta like assuming Jaylen Brown gets fouled attempting a 3 and will make all of his free throws - that’s 73-70 with 19 games remaining against divisional opponents and Minnesota. Is the best case realistic scenario if they magically improve something like 12-7 after that? 11-8? 84-85 wins feels like their ceiling, and the way things look that’s more likely to be the loss total…
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 4, 2024 22:25:13 GMT -5
Watching Oakland vs Seattle - Oakland is now using a pitcher named Janson Junk.
What an awful name for a pitcher.
I guess it would be worse - Dick Junk?
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 4, 2024 22:39:04 GMT -5
Seattle is up 9-2. Junk is getting rocked. It's now 10-2, bases loaded, none out. Junk is out. (there's a joke there). Now 16-3
so - with SD walking it off
Det 70-70 Sea 70-70 Bos 70-70 Tampa 69-70
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Post by asm18 on Sept 4, 2024 22:40:08 GMT -5
Plan for Rest of the Year
OFF DAY (we all need it!) 3 vs White Sox - try not to embarrass yourselves against the worst team in modern history 3 vs Orioles - try, but if you lose it screws over the Yankees which is great 4 @ Yankee - try, because it’s the Yankees OFF DAY
From there on if we’re still in the same spot or worse, I mean do whatever at that point. Sign Dom Smith back to pitch
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 5, 2024 0:37:49 GMT -5
Seattle is up 9-2. Junk is getting rocked. It's now 10-2, bases loaded, none out. Junk is out. (there's a joke there). Now 16-3 so - with Detroit and SD tied 5-5 Det 71-69 or 70-70 Sea 70-70 Bos 70-70 Tampa 69-70 I think catching Toronto for the basement is a more realistic scenario than catching the Twins or Royals.
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Post by Addam603 on Sept 5, 2024 4:09:46 GMT -5
The Red Sox are now closer to top 5 draft pick odds than they are to a playoff spot. 5.5 out of the Wild car and 4.5 ahead of the Pirates for that #5 spot.
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