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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 20:40:48 GMT -5
Well you know, I don't necessarily assume that the manager is singlehandedly to blame when the team commits lots of errors and mental lapses. And he can't be blamed for every batting slump. But if the Red Sox are going to fade late in the season literally every year of Cora's tenure, I'd like to see legible evidence of something he does well to make up for it. What is that supposed to be?
Is everyone in the organization just ensorceled by his personal charisma or something to think that he's their essential man?
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Post by Darwin's Curve on Sept 2, 2024 20:42:56 GMT -5
Scrap heap, reclamation, throw stuff against the wall to see what sticks type rosters of the last 6 years seem to regress to the mean same time every year. August time frame. Hopefully the last 6 years starts to pay off next spring. I am trying to imagine how you look at the rosters of 2019, 2022, and 2024 and decide that they're all basically the same thing. Since 2018 and 2019 were the same roster, that makes 2018 the equivalent of 2020 as well.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 2, 2024 20:44:25 GMT -5
Watching the post game - if the Mets are great at identifying and hitting change ups, why is Bello throwing so many change ups? Who is coming up with the game plan for the pitchers?
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Post by rhswanzey on Sept 2, 2024 20:47:00 GMT -5
Dom Smith era: 46-45 (.505) post-Dom Smith era: 7-10 (.412)
Conclusion: vibes are worth almost .100 winning percentage points
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Post by finaliz3d on Sept 2, 2024 20:48:11 GMT -5
Shut down Devers, honestly, treat this season as if you're probably not going to make the playoffs. Give Meidroth a call-up maybe to play third, that'd be fun.
The only semi-realistic way the Red Sox make the playoffs, and I use the word "realistic" very lightly, is if Kansas City sweeps Minnesota, Boston sweeps Chicago (which, our offense has been about as putrid as theirs lately), and then we sweep Minnesota... like all three of those things needs to happen and I just don't see it.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 2, 2024 20:51:01 GMT -5
70-68. Last year at this point 72-66.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 20:53:43 GMT -5
Royals lose, Red Sox lose, Mariners lose, Tigers lose. No one wants the 3rd Wild Card so badly, I’m beginning to think it’s a Scott Boras client
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Post by incandenza on Sept 2, 2024 20:54:01 GMT -5
Dom Smith era: 46-45 (.505) post-Dom Smith era: 7-10 (.412) Conclusion: vibes are worth almost .100 winning percentage points 15-19 since Reese McGuire was DFA'd. It's the Plawecki Curse: you can't DFA a light-hitting backup catcher who's popular in the clubhouse and not suffer the consequences.
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 2, 2024 20:54:14 GMT -5
Cora highlights Duran's bad route, TON's error and how Raffy is not driving the ball. He sounded really annoyed.
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Post by Soxfansince1971 on Sept 2, 2024 20:58:35 GMT -5
Cora highlights Duran's bad route, TON's error and how Raffy is not driving the ball. He sounded really annoyed. He should be, they are playing like $hit, and certainly not like the team that was 11 games over .500, and ahead for the WC #3 spot by 2 games.
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 2, 2024 21:01:56 GMT -5
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 21:03:43 GMT -5
David Peterson - starting for the Mets tomorrow - has the 3rd highest gap in MLB among qualified pitchers between his ERA (2.83) and his statcast expected ERA (5.15). But he is also left-handed
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Post by congusgambler33 on Sept 2, 2024 21:05:13 GMT -5
I was kind of hoping they would have grabbed Mike Schildt after the Cardinals let him go. Look at what The Padres are doing now after a slow start. Now we have extended Cora and probably stuck with Fatse too.
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Post by dcsoxfan15 on Sept 2, 2024 21:08:08 GMT -5
David Peterson - starting for the Mets tomorrow - has the 3rd highest gap in MLB among qualified pitchers between his ERA (2.83) and his statcast expected ERA (5.15). But he is also left-handed 0 runs, 2 hits, 3 walks, 12 strikeouts. 2:12 game time
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Post by soxfansince67 on Sept 2, 2024 21:12:22 GMT -5
Updated playoff chances (FanGraphs)
99.9 MFY 99.8 Os 99.6 Cle 98.5 Hou 95.4 Minn 78.3 KC
13.3 Bos 7.3 Sea 6.4 Det
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 21:13:55 GMT -5
I was kind of hoping they would have grabbed Mike Schildt after the Cardinals let him go. Look at what The Padres are doing now after a slow start. Now we have extended Cora and probably stuck with Fatse too. Lol no
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Post by orion09 on Sept 2, 2024 21:17:37 GMT -5
Well you know, I don't necessarily assume that the manager is singlehandedly to blame when the team commits lots of errors and mental lapses. And he can't be blamed for every batting slump. But if the Red Sox are going to fade late in the season literally every year of Cora's tenure, I'd like to see legible evidence of something he does well to make up for it. What is that supposed to be?
Is everyone in the organization just ensorceled by his personal charisma or something to think that he's their essential man? TIL the word ensorcell, what a great word.
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Post by orion09 on Sept 2, 2024 21:20:17 GMT -5
The most brutal part of this is that KC is on a 6 game losing streak - the mini-collapse of a WC team that many on here were hoping for - and the Sox have completely failed to take advantage.
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Post by asm18 on Sept 2, 2024 21:26:01 GMT -5
Updated playoff chances (FanGraphs) 99.9 MFY 99.8 Os 99.6 Cle 98.5 Hou 95.4 Minn 78.3 KC 13.3 Bos 7.3 Sea 6.4 Det Unfortunate that the AL Central team that is the only one not a near certainty at the moment to make the playoffs is not the one we play a series against in a few weeks. (Although we do have the tie-breaker vs KC if it miraculously ever comes into play.) Slaten, Martin, Kenley will enter tomorrow having been off three days in a row. The first team off day after a 14 games in 13 day stretch will be on Thursday. Getting to the point where (and Cora doesn’t usually like to do this if he can avoid it) you need to chase wins when behind with your best relievers. And quite cynically… Martin and Kenley are free agents in a month. With all due respect to those guys, if they get worn out in September and you don’t make the playoffs it’s not really your problem
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Post by Don Caballero on Sept 2, 2024 21:31:56 GMT -5
The desire to tank before actually being eliminated belongs to the mindset of children and cowards. Having said that... They're currently in position to draft 16th at 70-67. The White Sox and A's are locked into 10th and 11th position, and Tampa Bay is 9th at 67-69. So they're only 2 1/2 games out of a top-10 pick. It isn’t a desire btw, it’s just that the team isn’t very good and I’ve accepted that. No more struggle. People can be frustrated game after game and blame it on Cora or on [INSERT PLAYER WHO HAD A BAD GAME], but the reality is that the roster just isn’t there. Get a good draft pick and let’s select another steal.
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Post by oldfaithful2019 on Sept 2, 2024 21:35:11 GMT -5
Updated playoff chances (FanGraphs) 99.9 MFY 99.8 Os 99.6 Cle 98.5 Hou 95.4 Minn 78.3 KC 13.3 Bos 7.3 Sea 6.4 Det Unfortunate that the AL Central team that is the only one not a near certainty at the moment to make the playoffs is not the one we play a series against in a few weeks. (Although we do have the tie-breaker vs KC if it miraculously ever comes into play.) Slaten, Martin, Kenley will enter tomorrow having been off three days in a row. The first team off day after a 14 games in 13 day stretch will be on Thursday. Getting to the point where (and Cora doesn’t usually like to do this if he can avoid it) you need to chase wins when behind with your best relievers. And quite cynically… Martin and Kenley are free agents in a month. With all due respect to those guys, if they get worn out in September and you don’t make the playoffs it’s not really your problem Three solid innings from Wink is the best performance the team had tonight. Fresh pen now for the next two nights.
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Post by lostinnewjersey on Sept 2, 2024 22:15:54 GMT -5
I was at the game tonight. The Mets played with some verve; the Red Sox didn't. They really seemed to be mailing it in, especially Devers. Next spring training, I want to hear from Cora what he plans to do to make sure his guys are ready to play to their full potential all the way through the end of the season.
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 2, 2024 22:16:56 GMT -5
I was at the game tonight. The Mets played with some verve; the Red Sox didn't. They really seemed to be mailing it in, especially Devers. Next spring training, I want to hear from Cora what he plans to do to make sure his guys are ready to play to their full potential all the way through the end of the season. Devers is literally playing thru shoulder (both shoulders) injury. It would not shock me to see him get surgery this offseason
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Post by rhswanzey on Sept 2, 2024 23:09:58 GMT -5
I was at the game tonight. The Mets played with some verve; the Red Sox didn't. They really seemed to be mailing it in, especially Devers. Next spring training, I want to hear from Cora what he plans to do to make sure his guys are ready to play to their full potential all the way through the end of the season. Devers is literally playing thru shoulder (both shoulders) injury. It would not shock me to see him get surgery this offseason There isn’t a video highlight of it on the MLB app box score, but if anyone saw Devers throw in the 1st on the Alonso groundout.. he had to come in on it and throw across his body. He got very little on it and bounced it. That’s not a piece of cake 99.9% play and his body isn’t moving towards the bag, but healthy Devers (and most third basemen) don’t have trouble getting it there in the air. Again… that’s the front shoulder, whereas the original March/April shoulder issue was his back/left. One of the many times Casas bailed out infielders tonight.
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Post by Darwin's Curve on Sept 3, 2024 4:40:05 GMT -5
I was at the game tonight. The Mets played with some verve; the Red Sox didn't. They really seemed to be mailing it in, especially Devers. Next spring training, I want to hear from Cora what he plans to do to make sure his guys are ready to play to their full potential all the way through the end of the season. Devers is literally playing thru shoulder (both shoulders) injury. It would not shock me to see him get surgery this offseason Then Cora needs to put on his big-boy pants and sit him.
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