Juan Soto

I'll never rule out DD from acquiring top talent but I really can't see the Phillies getting him. If it's true that he is focused on the future of the organization and their ability to win I don't see how an aging Phillies roster that already has guys like Harper, Turner, Nola signed for big bucks long term who frankly are probably getting close to the end of their peaks. Not to mention the short term next with Wheeler adding $42M to that 120 until 2027. Not a particularly strong farm either. 

I can get on board with the thought just throw out their top offer now and get all this over with 15/650M seems reasonable. If the rumor is true that the Mets are going to pay $50M more than the next team no matter what then go ahead and call their bluff if the Mets want to pay him 15/700M they frankly they can have him.

I want Soto but at some point you gotta just walk away from the table if the bidding gets out of the stratosphere.

You know as well as I do Boras would spend another month shopping said 600m contract attempting to top it. It's far to early in the offseason for boras to sign away his prize and plenty of time left for his normal shenanigans.

Those two extra years take us from an already potentially painful 39 to an extremely painful 41.

If it's front loaded I am fine with it. Give him the $ when he is at peak performance and taper down at the end of the deal.

Is it really painful if the Luxury Tax goes up significantly and Soto is apart of multiple titles in Boston? You’re getting him for more or less his entire prime. He’s 26 right now. Right now I’d put the odds of him coming below the two NY teams and maybe slightly below the Dodgers but ahead of Toronto and Philadelphia. I believe the Phillies are in on him, Dombrowski loves big game hunting.

Seager comes to mind, too. Even if you credit a lot to Seidler wanting to push as he got closer to the end, that’s still a fair few top of the market players. The sense I got last year was that the Boras 4 probably could’ve beaten the spreadsheet numbers too, but were holding out for so much more than that that teams just moved on to their next targets.

You’re probably onto something with pitchers specifically beating the numbers, though—given the team’s struggles on the mound in recent years, I’ve definitely been more focused on the contracts feee agent pitchers have gotten, so perhaps I’m off base on position player contracts.

Add: that being said, this is Juan Soto here. If there were ever a free agent to go above and beyond what your projections say he’s worth for, he’d be the one.

I cannot believe he would give a crap about being friends with the owner, than hanging with Pedro and Papi.

This strikes me as a really eccentric preference. Who the hell wants to have a rapport with a) your boss, who is b) a weird (by definition) billionaire? The low point of every World Series celebration is when the awkward old guy hoists the trophy and gives a little speech in which he pretends he did anything other than stumble into a bunch of cash and pay a bunch of massively talented athletes to live out his vicarious fantasies. Which, to be clear, is a fabulous thing to do if you happen to be a billionaire; it keeps them out of trouble, if nothing else. But again, just strange that Soto wants to be pals with one of those weirdos. In any case, as others have said I nominate Theo for this role.

15 x 47 = 705. If I woke up tomorrow and found out that the Red Sox signed him to that deal I would not be upset.

I think the odds of the Sox signing Soto and then making no major pitching upgrade is less than the odds of the Sox not signing Soto.

What is the luxury tax threshold going to be in 5-7-9-10 etc years from now.??

I have no ideal what’s what, to get an ideal of what 40-45 millions year might look like in 15 years from now look at what the top free agents were signing for in 2010.

Paying a position player around $15-20 was getting you elite players.

Also, there’s a good chance he’s opting out in 4-5 years and the back 9 is pointless anyways