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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 9, 2015 7:36:26 GMT -5
Totally disagree. And I said I was (we are) looking for someone who may be on the cusp. It is very easy to name the usual 7 or 8 pitchers you'd want in a trade. It is not easy for Dombroski and guys to find someone under the radar and less expensive.....who may give them an above average 30 starts. Lets stop naming the same guys and come up with some potential rotation pieces who could maybe be dominant for a year or two. Can you give me any reason to believe Cashner would be good here? He wouldn't be any better than Miley. He would eat innings, that's it. He has a home run problem in San Diego and in the NL West. He doesn't get an impressive amount of swings and misses either. We don't need a guy like him, hes not a big enough upgrade over Miley or even Kelly to warrant giving up anything of value IMO. I agree nomar. I'm trying to find potential upgrades that won't cost us a contract of 7 years and $210 million. He is a buy low pitcher. He DOES have some upside. He has been effective when healthy. He won't cost much in prospects. Instead of saying no way, give me some of your buy low potential upside pitchers. It is entirely possible that Henry and Dombroski are going to stay away from the high price aisle. I personally do not agree with this anymore. But I'm looking at alternatives....that is all. Cashner, as an example, has a high velocity arm, but so did someone by the name of Arrieta who the Orioles gave away. No one saw him being an ace....certainly not Duquette, Showalter, or the highly over rated Rick Peterson.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 8, 2015 19:49:40 GMT -5
This forum hypes Gray up so much it's crazy. He's got similar peripherals to McHugh, and he's worse than someone like Quintana, yet people group him in with Harvey, Fernandez, Sale, DeGrom, etc. ESPN may love him because he keeps his ERA nice and pretty in Oakland, but I'd stay away from him at this point because he's got the connotation of a monster when he's no more valuable than guys like Swihart who we talk about trading in a package for him. And Andrew Cashner would be absolutely terrible in the AL East. Like Porcello before the all star break bad, except it would never end. He has upside but he's about to be 30 and I see little reason to believe he improves much more. Totally disagree. And I said I was (we are) looking for someone who may be on the cusp. It is very easy to name the usual 7 or 8 pitchers you'd want in a trade. It is not easy for Dombroski and guys to find someone under the radar and less expensive.....who may give them an above average 30 starts. Lets stop naming the same guys and come up with some potential rotation pieces who could maybe be dominant for a year or two.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 8, 2015 17:55:39 GMT -5
We need to look in all corners and see who has upside, somewhat young, had a slightly down season.....and has dominant stuff. A guy like Cashner in San Diego for example. He still threw 95 this year comin back from an injury in 2014 (only 19 starts) to throw 186 innings this year. Now his WHIP for the 1st time was around 1.4, but take a look at his numbers in 2013 and 2014. May be a good buy low candidate who can bring it.
Now Cashner is just an example, but maybe DD would consider someone like that if the numbers get too big.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 8, 2015 14:00:57 GMT -5
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 8, 2015 13:58:50 GMT -5
Espinoza pitched 2 innings and gave up a walk and an infield single. 1 K and all ground outs (I think). Vazquez
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 8, 2015 13:54:57 GMT -5
Dombrowski (center) and Tek (right) GOOD to see the Boys Working!!!!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 8, 2015 13:48:38 GMT -5
Few folks.....lots of our "brain trust"
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 8, 2015 13:42:29 GMT -5
If you guys and gals are like me, you are having a panic attack without watching our teams. I'm taking in today's game at Ed Smith in Sarasota under gorgeous skies and about 85 degrees. Thought we could all use some photos and try to push away SAD for another day. The brain trust was out in droves today. 1st photo is of Jason Varitek watching Anderson Espinoza start to warm up: Here is a photo of Christian Vazquez's backside as he walks back towards the dugout (we are about 10 minutes before game time) Espinoza just starting to warm up Espinoza in the bullpen finishing up his warm-up tosses
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 7, 2015 17:45:18 GMT -5
Sandoval to SD for WMB. Ha ha. He who laughs last..... Jenny may have taken all the starch out of him.....just looked at his stats. Oh you devil you!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 6, 2015 10:51:27 GMT -5
I'm hoping for a Hanley trade, but have trouble seeing it. The only clubs that may be hypnotized into taking him (and I do think with need the Great Kreskin here) are the following AL teams: Mariners, A's, White Sox, Rays, Indians, and Orioles. Terry Francona may only be talked into taking Hanley, if we kidnap a child of his). All of those clubs could use a DH or a 1st baseman (LOL). The only 2 NL teams that may think of Hanley as a 1st base upgrade are the Rockies and the Brewers. That, IMO, is 8 teams we need to "pull the wool over their heads on", pay $15 mill per year towards his salary, and promise the GM a one night stand with Verlander's girl friend.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 6, 2015 10:43:44 GMT -5
Read they told panda to lose 60-80 this offseason. That was someone on this forum and they were joking, fyi. That's correct. The Panda would have to not eat for 3 months and have his stomach stapled to have a chance for 60 lbs. My idea of 30 to 40 is really impossible also!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 6, 2015 10:27:11 GMT -5
Eric, IMO, each one the starters you mentioned will be EXTREMELY difficult to purchase. I like them all, although have reservations about Strasburg because of his inconsistency and his pending free agency. I would not want to trade away quality prospects for a rental, and he really may be just that.
Definitely picking up a so-called "ace" is very important for us to get back in contention and I'm on board doing most anything. I must admit, my preference is to sign David Price....even if it takes 7 years and $210 million. Many on this site will be against this......including you. I get that. I do. But man have I changed my tune watching the Red Sox compete with one arm tied behind their back for the last couple of years. Lester WAS a huge mistake.....although I never quite saw him until his last season with us as an ace. This year in Chicago backs up my feelings. But with that said, Lester was hugely important to us every 5 days.
I absolutely LOVE Matt Harvey. The others you mentioned I would place in this order (from best to least): Harvey, Sale, Archer, DeGrom, Sydergaard, and Gray. To me the Mets are sitting so pretty, why would they let any of those 3 pitchers go? Along with Matz they can actually dominate every night. Yes they have some potential offensive problems next season, but with those pitchers they have an excellent chance every night of coming away with a win.
Now if you are asking me if we would move Mookie Betts or Xander for one of those guys? The answer is no, and I can see them wanting one of them and having the right to ask for one of them! They probably have no interest in Blake Swihart because of their two young talented catchers. So what does that leave us to entice them with? There are 3 kids in the minors who I have no interest talking about. You probably know who they are (Moncada, Benitendi, and Anderson Espinoza). So could we put together a package with what is left that the Mets would consider moving either of those 3 pitchers for? Not if you omit those 5 players (IMO).
So what I'm saying Eric, I think we should use free agency 1st, and trade for a 2nd above average starter also. That 2nd starter could be a Carrasco. And I know this last statement will cause some unrest.....but I'd rather pony up for Cueto or Zimmerman than allow any of those 5 players to be traded.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 5, 2015 20:00:15 GMT -5
I'm sure this has been mentioned somewhere else, but did you hear that the sox wanted Hanley to lose 15-20 pounds? What the hell did they say to Panda then??? I think they'll move both. I don't think we'll be impressed with the return on either, but I think it get's done. I view it more as freeing up salary to spend where DD wants it. Probably 30 to 40, but I bet it won't happen. He may take off 10, but that will not be enough. Even if he does miraculously, his hitting style won't work in Boston. It makes you think what Ben was thinking when he "beat out" San Diego and San Fran for his services.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 5, 2015 14:09:17 GMT -5
Certainly acquiring Reddick is not as high a priority for Dombrowski as what he is up against with that picthing staff of ours, but I like Josh's all around game. Rusney Castillo playing everyday, at least currently, worries me. He sure looks good in a uniform, but man he is raw. I just think, if not terribly expensive, that Reddick would balance out the line-up nicely.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 4, 2015 18:28:04 GMT -5
If DD wants to sign a Zimmermann, for example, he'll have to pay a hefty price. No doubt he will receive a QO. Pay the price if necessary. We MUST pick up an ace like starter this off season to contend next year. If we have to lose our #1, so be it. We have a lot of talent already in the minors, it is time to get back into the playoffs.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 4, 2015 13:22:19 GMT -5
Don't get why Arnie Beyeler has been let go?? I guess Cespedes and Hanley had nasty things to say about him. "Arnie made us work too hard and we didn't want to get dirty"
Seriously, it seemed like he was a very hard working coach.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 4, 2015 11:57:30 GMT -5
I couldn't help myself!!
Most of us on here have drooled over Gray.....so lets see if we can match up with Billy Beane for Josh and Sonny.
I've already thrown Henry Owens and Rusney Castillo into the "pot". Now I, for sure, need to add some really outstanding talent to have Sonny Gray included. So here I go:
For Reddick and Gray............Owens, Castillo, Manuel Margot, Clay Buchholz, Pat Light, and Deven Marrero.....and (if possible) some International Slot dough. (If necessary, I would include a 1974 Buick, an original Hula Hoop, a couple of Bobby Darin records, and a life time pass to Wally World!)
Man I love this GM stuff!!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 4, 2015 11:40:13 GMT -5
As has been stated already, Cano is pretty much worthless to us.....but the thread could focus just on Felix and what he may take. I sort of doubt Dipoto has any interest in moving his best asset.....but strange things do happen (Josh Donaldson).
The only way Felix is moved, IMO, is if the M's believe they need to re-group. With Cano and Cruz, I doubt they'd think that is what is necessary. Dipoto actually has a pretty goo situation in Seattle. The owner is made of money, and they have some solid major league talent.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 4, 2015 11:33:29 GMT -5
Have always appreciated what this "unique" player can contribute to a team. Solid base runner, above average power, excellent defensive outfielder, and a great arm. Josh is only 28. He certainly knows and understands the Boston Red Sox scene.
He would, IMO, be a much better match in our outfield than Rusney Castillo. Betts, Bradley, and Reddick would be the best defensive outfield in baseball this side of Pittsburgh.
Love to hear ideas. How about Castillo, Henry Owens, and a B prospect? Too much? Not enough?
Our pitching is still the number one priority, but picking up another left handed hitting positional player can better balance out the line-up.
THIS COULD BE EXPANDED FURTHER FOR SONNY GRAY, IF YOU WANT.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 4, 2015 11:25:30 GMT -5
Have to admit picking up Reddick would be outstanding.....and in so many ways!
Hard to believe he is still only 28. He has, somehow, worked out his biggest problem at the plate....namely striking out. He has been up 578 times and has struck out just 63 times!! Wow. Compare that to his performance in 2012: 673 at bats and 151 K's. Now he did hit 32 bombs that season, but his OBP was poor.
He has hit 20 homers this year. I like that he is left-handed, still young, is an excellent defensive outfielder, and has an howitzer for an arm.
I have no idea what it would take, but for a GM that gave up someone named Josh Donaldson, maybe we can make it work. I'm glad he is finally becoming more expensive. He is making 4.1 million this season and with arb this winter I could see it going up significantly. He's a free agent in 2017.
NOW with Betts and Bradley.....that would be one helleva of an outfield. Maybe we could even extend him because Beane won't be able to.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 3, 2015 9:32:06 GMT -5
I don't think judgments can be made on player performances at this point. The season is over and most of them probably are exhausted. Most definitely. Henry has proven quite a lot over the last couple of months in AAA and the majors. It is disappointing for him that last night was his last memory of 2015, but he has shown he is very competitive. I sort of look at him as a solid depth piece for next season, but who knows. I am sure he and everyone in that dugout are tired after 8 months. Here's hoping for two well played, competitive final games this weekend! (and it would be nice if Castillo got a hit or two!)
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 1, 2015 8:27:26 GMT -5
As much as I hate being down on Rusney, I am. Really excited over-all on what is happening, but watching Castillo at bat is somewhat painful. I like his defense (especially in left at Fenway), but his base running and effectiveness at the plate leave a lot to be desired. If he was 23 or 24, I could see him coming around....and he still may, but at 28 time is running out for him......to get it! I've been looking at rosters and the 2016 free agents for possible lefty bats to platoon with Castillo, and there are some possibilities out there that may be helpful. Guys like Parra and Dejesus could work, I suppose. Picking up one more impactful bat may be a great idea. This has been mentioned by several of you before, but a Jason Heyward could solve quite a few problems going forward and give us arguably the best defensive outfield in the world. In a scenario like this, a Castillo could be part of a bigger trade to pick up a young starter, or maybe someone like Kimbrel or Chapman. I keep watching the telecasts and hoping to see something really special at the plate with Rusney Castillo, and sadly I don't. Maybe a platoon would work, or maybe going big in an area like right field would, in the long run, give us an even bigger boost! I think Heyward is out of reach, but what about Justin Upton as an upgrade over Castillo? Castillo should be tradeable. I'd be fine with that jimed14, but the reason I like Heyward slightly better is: 1) he is 2 years younger 2) he is an exceptional defensive outfielder 3) he bats left handed We lean too far right-handed, and when Ortiz is gone it could be more of a problem. You are probably right about him being too expensive or too much in love with the Cardinals, but at 26 he really may have lots more to offer going forward. As for Upton, he consistently hits his 25 homers, but has never quite gotten to where he should have. But who knows.....him in our line-up could be pretty special.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 1, 2015 7:25:31 GMT -5
I think at this point I'd really like to see the Sox dump Hanley and give Shaw the job at 1B. I'd also move Castillo for a more proven corner OFer to plug in with Mookie and JBJ. Castillo should have value to a smaller market team like the Marlins. I'm really torn about pitching; I want nothing to do with Cueto and I don't think they can afford Price. Part of me never ever wants to watch Buchholz pich for the Sox again but I know that's not rational. I think I'd go after a top-tier guy in a trade and slot Clay in as #2 assuming he's healthy. As much as I hate being down on Rusney, I am. Really excited over-all on what is happening, but watching Castillo at bat is somewhat painful. I like his defense (especially in left at Fenway), but his base running and effectiveness at the plate leave a lot to be desired. If he was 23 or 24, I could see him coming around....and he still may, but at 28 time is running out for him......to get it! I've been looking at rosters and the 2016 free agents for possible lefty bats to platoon with Castillo, and there are some possibilities out there that may be helpful. Guys like Parra and Dejesus could work, I suppose. Picking up one more impactful bat may be a great idea. This has been mentioned by several of you before, but a Jason Heyward could solve quite a few problems going forward and give us arguably the best defensive outfield in the world. In a scenario like this, a Castillo could be part of a bigger trade to pick up a young starter, or maybe someone like Kimbrel or Chapman. I keep watching the telecasts and hoping to see something really special at the plate with Rusney Castillo, and sadly I don't. Maybe a platoon would work, or maybe going big in an area like right field would, in the long run, give us an even bigger boost!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 30, 2015 17:56:41 GMT -5
With a 12.4% K rate! He's so so so good! Before even thinking about signing/trading a TORP, they need to sign him to an extension. I agree that if we're smart we extend him now. The bat is only going to get better once he cuts his O-swing% down and learns to use the opposite field more, which could be next year. Once Mookie does take the outside 2 strike pitch to right, he will be competing for a batting title IMO. He has, lately, started to make some hard contact that way. I'm not sure he will have many weaknesses at all if he starts doing that to a degree. I do want him to continue to hit the ball hard to left and center, but just take Xander's approach when it comes to a pitch on the outside corner or off the plate slightly when he has to protect the plate. Honestly, with his speed, contact rates, and hard contact, he could be a high .300 hitter eventually. The sky is the limit for Mookie!
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Post by steveofbradenton on Sept 29, 2015 15:36:46 GMT -5
Kiley McDaniel weighs in: Wow! I may be off my rocker, but IMO next season at this time it won't be close (in favor of Beni)
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