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Post by texs31 on Jun 4, 2022 14:50:59 GMT -5
Still probably too good for that. Move some money (Fluto thinks they should still trade Reilly or Grz if someone will take them).
Key not only IF Bergy and/or Krejci comes back but also how much salary will it take. Would either do a Giordano type deal? Doubt it. But hopefully less than the market would dictate.
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Post by texs31 on Jun 3, 2022 22:06:28 GMT -5
Reilly out 3 and Grz 5. Yikes.
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Post by texs31 on May 31, 2022 19:35:54 GMT -5
I just want to comment on the end of the game 7. The reason that became so close is because Marcus Smart felt like being an idiot and he threw like 5 miss 3's in a row. instead of passing it or going to the rim. I cant stand when he goes back to low percentage shots. The Celtics were much better team. Good riddance Miami. Karalis was on T&R this am. Felt that Marcus' issues late were more of a team issue late. Tatum was getting doubled. Brown standing in the corner not doing much. Marcus thinking shooting the 3 (especially if he's not able to drive like he wants) is as good a play as anything else they have that point. JK feels they need to figure out a way to not get stagnant like that (specifically if/when JT gets doubled). Not saying it's correct but it's reasonable.
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Post by texs31 on May 27, 2022 17:24:50 GMT -5
Marchand had surgery today and his expected recovery time is 6 months.
Whatever the offseason plan, this might force Cassidy (or whomever) to play the kids.
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Post by texs31 on May 25, 2022 11:01:09 GMT -5
Sure. Actually, every one of the bury/buyout candidates above would come with the "if you can get something for them, great" caveat. Just saying I'd be willing to walk away if nothing comes of any trade talks.
I would NOT just walk away from Reilly. If nobody is offering anything of value, I'd explore other options to get space.
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Post by texs31 on May 25, 2022 8:05:44 GMT -5
Based on the roster that the B's ended the season with, Boston has ~3.2M in Cap Space. I'm not sure about any bonus overages which would impact that number (it was almost 2M last season so it could be significant) but let's leave it at that number for now. Here's what I'd do/consider:
1. Bury Wagner again - Saves about 1.1M and brings space to the 4.3M that many (like @bruinscapspace) are starting with 2. Buyout Foligno - Saves about 1/2 his hit which brings space to around $6.18M 3. Trade Mike Reilly - Many say that, despite his limitations/mistakes, he could still net a 3rd. Even if you want to call it a 4th, still worth it. I actually was thinking of trading Grzelcyk because he'd have a greater return (2nd rounder?) and you'd save more money ($3.7M vs $3M), but his surgery likely takes that off the table. Now because of the surgery, one of Zboril (already in the Cap Calculation to this point) or Ahcan (Restricted Free Agent) would have to step up until Grz is back. Still think it's something that should happen given other needs. This results in $9.18M in space 4. I'd also either bury/buyout Nosek. With a slight preference towards burying him. There is only a 200K difference in the savings but, with a buyout, he'd also have 666,667 hit on NEXT year's cap. Not huge but, largely, unnecessary. Besides, if you need him on that 4th line, you can call him back up. So that puts them at $10.3M in space
So now what?
- Obviously, getting Bergeron back is the BIG unknown. But even more so, how much does he want to come back. Don't see him asking for a raise. But how much of a discount are we talking? Mark Giordano just signed for 800K for each of the next 2 years to give himself 2 more shots at a Cup (insert your jokes about whether he has a realistic shot with the Leafs here). Is that what he'd be thinking? Or are we talking something more in the 2-4M range? 4-6? - Some are salivating at the idea of bringing back Krejci. If Bergeron does retire, my desire to do that increases dramatically. If Bergeron does re-sign, I'm not sure. You STILL need to find a Top 6 C of the future and, currently, there is none in sight. I really think they need to figure this out bc it could also impact Pastrnak's desire to sign an extension. If Bergeron pulls a Giordano, Boston would have money to throw at a free agent and there are some decent ones available. I keep hearing names like Scheifele (6M x 2 hit), Dubois (a RFA), Horvat (5.5M) and JT Miller (5.2M) as targets. Any one of those will cost you DeBrusk PLUS. How much more? Kevin Paul Dupont suggests DeBrusk + Carlo + some pick/prospect combo. If there was a plan to replace Carlo on the 2nd pair (could you get Klingberg as a UFA), then great. But the bigger issue is whether teams would consider Carlo and his contract an asset that improves an offer. I think no, personally. I'd be willing to trade Lohrei now that we have Lindholm locked in and he's certainly increased his value (not all of Sweeney's draft risks have failed) but what else would be needed. Maybe you the ideal scenario is that you can get both Bergeron and Krejci AND make a deal for 1 of these Cs (who would play RW on the top line initially, then move back to C when Bergeron/Krejci (again, if either is brought back) moves on. Either way, I think you MUST get a C from outside the organization (present/history) to extend a window for Pasta/McAvoy/Lindholm/Swayman. - IF you can get 2 Cs, I'd consider moving on from Haula. Is it a buyout or burying him? The difference it a little more impactful than Nosek's but I see similar pro/cons. But to move on from BOTH Haula/Nosek, you'd need to be comfortable with a re-signed Studnicka (if not included in any trade package) or Beacher/McLaughlin/other filling that 4th line role. Maybe you pick 1 of Haula/Nosek and bury the other? - Speaking of Studnicka, if he's not included in a deal, I think you re-sign him. But, assuming he has value in a trade, I think that's better for him. Unless you give him a crack at a Top 6 role (with the plans above, it would be more likely at RW) I feel like playing 4th line minutes doesn't really benefit anyone. I get "earning" roles but, at some point, you're wasting an asset (and paying him) for lesser return. - I'd definitely re-sign Ahcan. Some feel he could very much step in for Grzelcyk on the 2nd pair. Or he could slot in as the 7th D with Zboril moving up. Again, you really just need to fill in until Grzelcyk is back. - Lastly, I'd certainly listen on Ullmark but more because of his value on the market (not many starting G options available this offseason) than whether/not he's overpaid. Do not PAY someone to take him off your hands. If someone wants to step up with an offer fitting of a trade for a potential starting G, fine. Otherwise, I feel like it's more something to consider at the deadline. By then, Swayman will have either taken over TRUE #1 status (vs more of a "tandem" or 1A/1B situation) and you may be able to convince Linus to waive his NMC to get an opportunity elsewhere. - Finally, let Lazar go. I like him a lot but he'll certainly find more money and a better role elsewhere. Steen (or some other youngsters) should be able to take his place.
A VERY interesting offseason ahead.
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 22:56:19 GMT -5
To hear Horford, sounds like he chose to get tested??
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 22:50:08 GMT -5
I appreciate the response Lots to absorb. One thing I have ultimate confidence in. There isn't a single GM/Org who would go into a season in the tail end of a contending window with 2 rookies. You have a problem with the Ullmark contract, that's fine. But don't give me Swayman/Vladar as your evidence. No GM, under the circumstances, makes that call.
I'll dig into the rest later but, at a quick glance, it feels like we compare "our" players/coaches/execs to our own expectations and NOT to their peers. The issue isn't whether or not Sweeney has fallen short of our expectations/hopes (he has). It's whether there is someone put there who could/would do better.
If there is, great. I'm in. Otherwise you're just making an emotional decision and could easily end up with a GM who is, decidedly, worse.
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 13:41:59 GMT -5
Horford is in!
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 13:31:36 GMT -5
I think that's fair.
On Cassidy, I'd like to believe he learned from the JDB season. A great leader doesn't lead everyone the same way. People are different and to get the most out of them, you need to lead them differently. Many have a hard time understanding the difference between "consistent" and "the same". Not sure if that happened exactly that way with Jake or not.
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 13:03:32 GMT -5
- Contrary to popular belief, his 1st draft ('15) was good (it just SHOULD have been epic) - Taylor Hall - Lysell and Lohrei - Swayman - got Marchand/Bergy/Pasta/etc to sign below market deals - Lindholm a very good get (though, granted, it puts them in a weird spot right now) - Haula was more than one typically gets for 3M. Forbort was miscast early but exactly what a playoff team needs from a veteran 3rd pair D. Ullmark was an overpay (but you can do that when you have a rookie as the other half of your pair) but was key to their success. - Nash was just an unfortunate outcome
When the players play well, it's the players but when they play poorly, it's on the GMs. I'd also argue that doing what he did with an owner who seems to be in it only for the concessions is no easy task.
I'm not saying he's above criticism. He's not. He's just below the LEVEL of criticism he receives.
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 12:17:45 GMT -5
Horford upgraded to probable. Likely means he passed his Covid test yesterday and is just waiting on today's test results (at least that's what the beat guys are thinking and it would seem to make sense).
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 12:16:21 GMT -5
Agreed but:
- Cassidy CAN be better than he is - Sweeney isn't as bad as everyone makes out
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Post by texs31 on May 19, 2022 10:29:59 GMT -5
Based on Sweeney/Neely press conferences, it sounds like extending Sweeney is the intention. Neely had some strange comments about Cassidy (saying he's a fantastic coach but "we may need to change the way we coach").
Sounds like it could be a bit of an ultimatum to change styles or he's gone??
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2022 21:42:10 GMT -5
Devin Hafford was released also. Bad attitudes? Either that or health? Already cut Shanahan for a failed physical but, of course, these 2 participated. Signed a Long Snapper (Ross Reiter) but they had room on the roster to do so wo cutting guys.
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2022 19:27:17 GMT -5
Just watched clips of the interview with Pasta. Outside of hoping he signs a big extension to stay with Boston long term, I hope he and his girlfriend find healing. So easy to forget what the human being(s) went through as we watch the athlete perform.
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2022 17:12:32 GMT -5
King seemingly got reps at WR today. But maybe it didn't go so well because he was released.
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2022 15:54:05 GMT -5
Well, it just might be Reilly that's traded. Grz announcing he played with a dislocated shoulder and it needs surgery. Expects to miss the start of next season.
EDIT - Of course, it could also mean nobody gets traded and B's just use LTIR. Still wouldn't surprise if Reilly is traded and Ahcan is given a shot on the 2nd pair.
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2022 10:32:05 GMT -5
Move #2 as Beecher signs his ELC.
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2022 9:34:34 GMT -5
1st move of the offseason as Boston has extended Jake Zboril.
If he could ever stay healthy, he's a reasonable bottom pair LHD (big IF, of course).
1.137 Cap hit. Further cements the need to move some LHD money (again, Grz/Forbort/Reilly).
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Post by texs31 on May 16, 2022 9:19:01 GMT -5
I feel like the only play for them this offseason is:
- Move some salary from your "middle to bottom" depth. So Haula (with a caveat), 1 or more of Grz/Reilly/Forbort, maybe Ullmark as discussed elsewhere. - Convince Bergy to come back (KEY) - Get a legitimate #2 C (that's the caveat for trading Haula, need a replacement). Bringing back Krejci may be the only real option. - Extend Pasta - I'm not sure what happens with JDB. He was excellent in the playoffs and answered the "what can you offer if you're not scoring" question that Cassidy likes to ask. If you trade him, can you replace him?
Just feel like they need to make another run with Bergy at the top. Blowing it up makes no sense given they have a #1 G, McAvoy, a newly extended Lindholm, and Pasta and Marchand at various points within their elite prime. I also don't see a way they can really extend the window beyond Bergy bc they have nobody to C a top line.
2 curveball trade candidates are Coyle and Hall. Both make legit money. Have value (though, probably, with some debate on how much value relative to that money but still). But either could still create some room AND bring back assets. Not advocating or predicting but could see one of them moving on as a possibility.
And yes they need some non-first rounders to hit (both those already drafted and those to be made this year). We know about Lysell and Lohrei (and there is still mixed opions on the latter) but there would seem to be others in the system who are legit NHLers. But can any take another leap to be more than just 3rd/4th line/Bottom 4 pairs? Brett Harrison and Johnny Beecher are probably the most likely candidates but require significant improvement (possible but hard to bet on).
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Post by texs31 on May 15, 2022 13:16:37 GMT -5
Active but not starting. Available "if needed", whatever that means.
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Post by texs31 on May 14, 2022 18:27:15 GMT -5
Hate that I'm starting this already. BIG offseason ahead.
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Post by texs31 on May 12, 2022 8:38:05 GMT -5
Pats and Vegas working on a Stidham trade. Swap of late round picks involved.
2023 picks - Pats get a 6th while giving up a 7th (plus Stid)
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Post by texs31 on May 8, 2022 19:24:57 GMT -5
Not suggesting need isn't a factor. Just don't think he's approaching it from a "I need a G and I can wait to get one in Rd X" as you are suggesting. Gotta believe if WE know he can get a starting caliber G late, so does BB. All depends on what their board looks like no? I'd compare it to me wanting Shakir so bad because he was the perfect fit for what our offense needed. The only difference is I don't have the information they have and I don't make a crazy small board, which we known in the past they have done. Remember the trading up for Cowart and Bailey because Bill said they were running out of players on their board to draft? That was Nick Caserio, Zeigler seemed to have a much larger board and Groh seems to have a smaller one. It's Bill the OG we took in the 6th, could have been his next rated OG and I wouldn't put it past him to only have one LG rated to be able to start next year. Just like I felt there was only one Shakir in the draft and I would have overdrafted him. That mindset is because I went into this draft determined to get Mac Jones weapons, Bill went in determined to get a starting LG and he's very picky about those guys, compared to RG. We'll never know, our owner isn't Jerry Jones, he won't show off our draft board. Yet what I'd pay to see Bills boards from over the years. If BB wrote a book explaining his thought process throughout the years, that'd be an all-time best seller.
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