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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 11, 2015 16:44:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't count on him doing anything. 16 homers in 71 major league innings, doesn't have the plus plus pitch to be a strikeout guy, also doesn't get enough ground balls to counteract that. He's a tightrope walker when he's good.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 11, 2015 16:18:43 GMT -5
I don't like giving a guy that much money who's value is mostly tied to his defense. Plus, his size and previous injuries give me pause on how long his athleticism lasts. They need to hope his offensive season last year is his floor 23 mill per year for a 26 year old 6WAR OF-er is pretty good deal. Even if he drops down to 4WAR, you're doing more than okay. We just paid Hanley 22 mill to give us -1.8WAR haha.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 11, 2015 15:52:16 GMT -5
I can't help but think the Sox and Cubs match up well for a deal built around Schwarber and JBJ. For as gifted a hitter as Schwarber is, the man has no defensive position. Like the thought, but it feels like Cubbies will use Scwarber/Soler to go out and get some young cost-controlled pitching a la Salazar.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 23:49:56 GMT -5
Sorry, to be clear, it is my opinion that none of those five guys has a median projection better than Miley. Because I said so!
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 19:01:55 GMT -5
I mean, if you have to go back 10 years to find something stupid someone said, and then that stupid thing was about prospects, well, I just hope you apply the same standards to yourself. I think you're reading way too much into it. In ten years you'll probably look back at your post and realize how stupid it is.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 18:11:49 GMT -5
He (Theo) already does. Gotta believe Baez will be on the move (previously reported that he might be on his way to TB for Cobb). With CHC in search of a CF, does Heyward play there (meaning his addition just fills a need but doesn't, necessarily, make Soler available). This is win/win for them. Either they get him or they up the ante for STL (I guess JH could go to LAA). If they get Heyward, are the Cubs planning on putting him in center or are they then moving Soler? Or (and this would have ramifications for the Sox) would they be willing to move Schwarber? JBJ + Swihart for Schwarber? Or someone for Carrasco.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 14:58:24 GMT -5
I'm not trying to pile on here, but I think Cecchini was the type of prospect to hold onto because he was seen as a high floor type. I always think it makes sense to hold onto high floor guys until they get to the point where they are viewed as a starting option from the day they get traded. The odds of Cecchini busting were very slim. He wasn't very risky at all. But he busted. That's the heartbreak of baseball prospecting in a nutshell. Still, he provided this forum with a lot of excitement and hope in his heyday. He was one of my personal favorite guys to follow in recent memory. Sad ending, but still a fun ride with Cecchini in our system. I don't consider a guy with zero applicable defensive profile to be a high floor guy.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 14:45:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty amazed that the Rays did not protect Tyler Goeddel in the Rule 5 Draft. What an absolute disaster the 2011 Draft ended up being for the Rays. They had six picks in the first 42 slots of that draft. The only one they came close to "hitting" on was Mikie Mahtook, and he looks like a platoon OF. Guerrieri could maybe bounce back but has still only thrown 206 IP over 4 seasons. Meanwhile, the Red Sox drafted Betts, Swihart, Bradley Jr., Owens, and Barnes that year. Not bad. You can go farther if you're talking about 40man and potential impact. Shaw, Noe Ramirez, Jerez
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 14:00:33 GMT -5
Sounds like Casey Kelly is on the move lol
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 12:07:07 GMT -5
Dombrowski has mentioned his affinity for players with a varied skillset. How Rusney and JBJ help the team when their bats aren't playing.
Cecchini is atrocious defensively, and it seems as if his development has stalled in this system. Happens to a lot of guys who have high OBP's but no power once they get to the higher levels and pitchers aren't afraid of being taken out of the park.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 3:49:52 GMT -5
It's the Allen Craig show now, boys.
Interesting factoid, over the next two years, Allen Craig will play at McCoy, and will earn about the same amount of money as either a.) the original construction cost of the stadium (adjusted for inflation) or b.) the 1990's renovations to the park (also adjusted to 2015 dollars for inflation!
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 3:23:43 GMT -5
Velasquez looks like he could be pretty good. good K rate. average FB 94.5 Fisher is Houstons 8th ranked prospect acording to mlb prospect watch. OF 37th overall pick in 2014 Oberholtzer is what he is. A controllable number 5 starter Seems like Houston is giving a fair return to acquire Giles. Maybe nobody as valuable as Margot but then again, I wouldn't value Giles near Kimbrel either. At least not right now. Velasquez is more valuable than Margot. I agree. Shocked at how many times I heard the comment today: "Some execs think Velasquez could be the same back of bullpen power arm Giles was". Like jesus he 3.5 FIP'd the league in the majors this year starting and throws high 90s. And that's with just 33 innings of AA under his belt.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 3:17:58 GMT -5
That's one thing I'm interested in seeing this year. If under this new regime, they'll be more aggressive promoting players through the system than they were under Cherington; or if everything stays the same, something to keep an eye on. I'm not so sure you can compare that really. Xander spent 79 games at AA over two partial seasons and 60 at AAA. Betts had like 50 games at each. Erod made 6 starts at AA and 8 at AAA. My point essentially being, they actually have been aggressive when the talent has dictated it. I think if Moncada and Benintendi continue to rake, they'll be brought along swiftly as well. Devers and Espinoza might be a different story tho. No real reason to start their service time before they've matured physically.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 10, 2015 0:09:58 GMT -5
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 23:34:00 GMT -5
I thought with the deal of Miley they may consider jumping in on Maeda, but it seems like a lot of risk without even the perceived high end reward. Maybe the $ will show that, but with the may $ is being handed out, who the hell knows Well with the price being paid for number three starters (as demonstrated by Shelby Miller trade), I'm not opposed to at least bidding on him. He should at least be an upgrade over Kelly/Wright. It's pretty clear they really think they have something in Joe Kelly.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 21:38:21 GMT -5
Marte, Polanco, and McCutchen ain't to shabby McCutchen is one of the most overrated CF in all of MLB. I really like the Sox D. Not only in the OF but all over the diamond. Mind you 1B scares the hell out of me. Agree on McCutchen defensively. Polanco and Marte are legit legit legit defensively tho.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 21:36:33 GMT -5
Giles to Astros pending physicals. So far deal is Giles for Velasquez, Oberholtzer, and Derek Fisher. Rumors there might be 1 more pitcher headed to Phils, but not confirmed yet. Also sounds like Lawrie to White Sox is nearing completion. Old friend JB Wendelken appears to be going to Oakland in the deal. He was traded to Chicago in the Jake Peavy deal. God Billy Beane sucks. No one is steering that ship
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 21:15:20 GMT -5
Any body know anything about what the Astros are giving up to get Giles. I'd say 3 years kimbrel > 5 years Giles. 5 years giles> 5 years Smith. Velasquez, Fisher, Oberholtzer, and potentially 1 more arm
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 20:59:35 GMT -5
Giles to Astros pending physicals.
So far deal is Giles for Velasquez, Oberholtzer, and Derek Fisher. Rumors there might be 1 more pitcher headed to Phils, but not confirmed yet.
Also sounds like Lawrie to White Sox is nearing completion.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 20:04:34 GMT -5
There are still three things they could do that wouldn't be crazy. 1) Trade Tazawa's one year of control, plus necessary prospect(s), for Jake McGee's two years. 2) Trade Kelly plus NPs for a SP who is reliable and clearly better than him or Wright, which is to say a #2 or borderline #2/#3. 3) Trade Rusney Castillo and acquire a LF 1- or 2-year rental like Josh Reddick. I don't see a downside of any sort to #1. You do it if you like the price. With #2, you run the risk of Kelly being nearly as good as the guy you get. That means you explore making a deal, but only make it of it clearly seems like a win because the prospect price is surprisingly low. Given what the Snakes just gave up to get Shelby Miller, that seems very unlikely. There was a pretty good consensus that #3 should wait until perhaps June of next year, since it might prove to be unnecessary. However, they should make a list of candidates (Carlos Gonzalez is another and I'm not sure whether there are any more) and, if all but one get traded and the last guy is on the block, they should explore making the deal now. 1.) Unsure why Tazawa would be in that trade. Rays would rather get more prospects. 2.) This one I get, though they seem in love with Joe Kelly's potential working with the 3 pitch mix he switched to after the All Star break. 3.) No chance in hell Beane would ever do that. No one trades 2 years of a above average OF-er for 5 years of a below average one on a bigger contract.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 17:33:32 GMT -5
DD says sox not taking anyone in Rule 5
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 16:15:15 GMT -5
Theres no question we now have the best defensive outfield in the game. That itself should a couple wins on its own Marte, Polanco, and McCutchen ain't to shabby
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 16:01:38 GMT -5
If I'm the Mets I'm giving Heyward a long hard look in center field. He can play there until Granderson's deal expires after 2017. I would be shocked to see the Mets sign a 180+mm contract. Would be exciting for their fans.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 15:57:29 GMT -5
Astros media session was just pushed back Jim Salisbury reports. Rumored to be hot on Ken Giles. Will be fascinating to see what they give up if it happens.
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Post by pokeyreesespieces on Dec 9, 2015 15:54:02 GMT -5
Apparently the reason Cleveland can't duplicate the Shelby Miller trade is because they want MLB talent. I wonder how much more they'd need for one of their starters if the Sox went JBJ/Kelly/?? Sox appear to be telling people that JBJ is staying in Boston, so it may be a moot point, but who knows. Carrasco or Salazaar would be fantastic, especially if they'd be replacing the Kelly/Wright spot, and it would add even more insurance for Buchholz's eventual DL stint, be it to save innings or because he's hurt After the Miller trade, getting Carrasco/Salazar for the kind of package you're refering to is impossible even if that 3rd piece is Moncada, I think. Most teams view MLB level talent as extremely valuable. If Indians were looking for prospects, I think the D-backs deal becomes more prohibitive. Comparing the two deals is a little bit harder when the return would be so different. End of the day, if the Indians see a deal where they see their team getting better for a period of time they like, I don't see a reason they'd not do the deal. That being said, both their prices probably did still go up.
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