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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 10, 2019 3:58:54 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't say I didn't tear up after seeing him move around like he did. Guy is a beast. Legend. Stay strong Ortiz.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 23:42:53 GMT -5
Fans watching football on the screens in the crowd tonight Just a sickening display from top to bottom in the last 24 hours from everybody associated with the team I don't blame the fans for that. The game was lifeless and misserable.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 13:21:40 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 12:37:17 GMT -5
I am happy with either Eddie Romero or Don Orsillo being the GM. There are probably a half-dozen others I'd be content with. Beane is among them. What are Orsillo's qualifications tho? Lol, ya. I didn't get the joke at first either.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 12:22:12 GMT -5
Man, I miss Drellich covering the Sox. He's really good at his job. This article coincides with Grandsalami's tweet above.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 11:45:55 GMT -5
It was pretty clear when Hazen wanted out that DD was the autocratic type. Maybe they could have handled it better, but I think moving on makes sense at this juncture. I’m curious to see who they bring in and what transpires this offseason, because it does seem like major changes are coming. Beane would be amazing, but he has the most secure job in the sport and Boston’s GM role has been the least secure, so I have a hard time seeing how Henry could sweeten the pot enough to get him interested. Would he? What exactly is Bill Beane's superpower at this point? He likes to trade away good young players with years of control left, which makes sense in Oakland and absolutely zero sense in Boston. I think he's a good GM where he's at, but it seems like you'd be getting the exact same situation that you (supposedly) have now with Dombrowski, a guy coming from outside the organization who has his own way of doing things that clashes with the existing front office personal. You have a point with him clashing with the existing front office personnel. Can't we say that about any outside person they bring in though? I don't think he likes to trade away good young talent, however. He's kind of forced into doing it before they become expensive via arbitration. He has a ability to find young good talent seemingly out of no where, too.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 11:19:23 GMT -5
Usual great Tweet by Speier.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 11:11:52 GMT -5
Lol this is amazing, when you look at it through context. They got rid of both of these guys.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 10:55:03 GMT -5
I am happy with either Eddie Romero or Don Orsillo being the GM. There are probably a half-dozen others I'd be content with. Beane is among them. Is there another Don Orsillo besides the broadcaster?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 10:34:54 GMT -5
Billy Beane might be the best GM in the business. Every single one of his rebuilds with Oakland has literally lasted a year or two before Oakland was competitive with a small payroll. If Henry can get THAT guy to finally come, then I'll be doing cartwheels. The only reason why Billy Beane hasn't won anything is because of payroll IMO. You got to have some form of it. Oakland doesn't have that at all. How many titles has he won? How many world series has he made? My vote is for Romero He's won nothing because he can't spend on anything. You got to have the ability to spend in MLB or your margin for error is ZERO.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 10:25:44 GMT -5
Or is it possible JH finally talked Billy Beane into coming east? Less than 5% chance IMHO, but would be...wild. Billy Beane might be the best GM in the business. Every single one of his rebuilds with Oakland has literally lasted a year or two before Oakland was competitive with a small payroll. If Henry can get THAT guy to finally come, then I'll be doing cartwheels. The only reason why Billy Beane hasn't won anything is because of payroll IMO. You got to have some form of it. Oakland doesn't have that at all.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 10:16:27 GMT -5
I do think Alex Cora and his coaching staff are good to stay for multiple years.
Cora made a lot of mistakes this year. Being too arrogant and not having a spring training for the pitching staff being one of them. Being a little obssesed with the platoon splits for a while there. I think he's done as good of a job as expected, regardless.
He can handle the pressure of this market. He's a cool, calm, and collected guy. The player's love him. I don't expect him to have any amount of a hot seat attached to him for a while. At least that part of the GM will come easy for the next guy.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 10:08:05 GMT -5
LOL. Me and my mother knew Mookie Betts wasn't going to get resigned. Conflict of interests is at stake here. That's why Dombrowski got fired or whatever. My bottom line theory, but no one believes Pedrofan. Whatever, man. That's all I got to say. EXPECT MOOKIE TO GET TRADED. I've been arguing it ad nauseam on this forum and now it's happening (due to organizational direction/GM change/not wanting to pay bottom dollar). Surprised. Shocked. Whatever. (Not really). Yeah, I don't expect Dombrowski to reasonably attach his name to what is about to be expected to happen this off-season, because in a win now mode, it isn't what you expect to be done (the Mookie Betts' trade). Plain and simple. The world may come to an end and I may live to regret saying it - but I tend to agree with Pedrofan on this one. I think this move was more about the future than the past. First off, what to do with Mookie may be the organization's biggest financial decision ever. Whatever they do I don't think the team wants DD making that decision, because I think the organization is terrified of Mookie becoming Boston's Miguel Cabrera. There's also going to be a lot of decisions that need to be made about prospects next year where a GM with a more value-based approach that has a better appreciation of roster spots 20-25 may be more appropriate for the role. Second, I wouldn't rule out this being a mutual decision of sorts. DD is a bit old. If this is a transition period in the organization then DD may not want to commit to seeing the transition through, especially if he doesn't agree with the vision. If DD and ownership don't share a vision for the team then it's not surprising that they would go their separate ways. In fact, it's probably best for both if that's the case. Yeah just to add on in regards to Mookie and Miguel Cabrera- The Sox (John Henry) doesn't want a player clogging up that much of a percentage of the payroll in Mookie or whoever. They'd rather spread the money around and not spend top dollar on one player. Henry has had this approach since he got here. Dombrowski probably doesn't probably agree with THAT approach either and doesn't have full control over that, so it was probably the dozens of reasons of the mutual decisions to part ways, even though the labeling of firing came attached to it.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 9:58:29 GMT -5
Or is it possible JH finally talked Billy Beane into coming east? Less than 5% chance IMHO, but would be...wild. Funny. I had thought Henry might reach out to Theo again as his deal expires after 2020 I think (now that Kennedy is in place of Lucchino), but the timing of this certainly doesn't work. As Pedro said, Friedman would be really interesting although I'd be surprised if the Dodgers let him walk away. That was Grandsalami who posted the idea, not me. Can't take credit for that one buddy. I'm not sure if I'm sold on Friedman. He ran the Rays well, but he had/has no idea how to spend money wisely. He's a lot like Ben Cherrington in that regard.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 4:17:41 GMT -5
LOL. Me and my mother knew Mookie Betts wasn't going to get resigned. Conflict of interests is at stake here. That's why Dombrowski got fired or whatever. My bottom line theory, but no one believes Pedrofan. Whatever, man. That's all I got to say. EXPECT MOOKIE TO GET TRADED. I've been arguing it ad nauseam on this forum and now it's happening (due to organizational direction/GM change/not wanting to pay bottom dollar). Surprised. Shocked. Whatever. (Not really). Yeah, I don't expect Dombrowski to reasonably attach his name to what is about to be expected to happen this off-season, because in a win now mode, it isn't what you expect to be done (the Mookie Betts' trade). Plain and simple. This really does need a bump. This is exactly what's happening here. It's not complicated. It is what it is. Don't make it complicated. Just tell yourself this and every little thing, will be alright. Good luck to Dave Dombrowski. The ultimate maximizer. He built the best Red Sox roster ever. It was time to move past that kind of thinking, though. Still, nothing but good things to say about that dude. Hope he gets another gig somewhere else doing the same exact thing. If anyone thinks I'm being a fraud, check out this post earlier from me- "Dombrowski has done what he was brought here to do since he got here, maximize with the current core of young players Ben Cherrington elected to keep. It worked. He was flawless last year with every move. How can a roster be maximized more than 2018? In essence, his purpose has been served. Moving forward, I do think the direction of maximizing this roster (the thing he's most commonly known for while GMing), would be a mistake. This team has now multiple positions to fill. The starting rotation is a major uncertainty moving forward and has one spot open (plus they need starting pitching depth). The bullpen needs like 2 key additions. 2nd base could be a problem. First base could be a problem. You have 2 outfielders up for contract soon, and it's highly questionable at best that they keep either one of them long-term. GMing for the Sox is going to be hard, like really difficult moving forward. The Sox have multiple holes to fill and you probably need to get creative to fill them. Dombrowski in his time as a GM in the Sox has been "see guy, go get guy." No creativity there. Maybe he could shock me and flip it around and be that guy, but I have my doubts about it, even despite his experience in the league. The Sox are more likely than not are about to enter a reshifting or retooling phase. I don't think Dombrowski would even want to be part of something like that. I could see him leaving once his contract is up and join some other big market team ready to win soon. He does have full control here though, and that's probably the one thing that might keep him from leaving, however." forum.soxprospects.com/thread/5207/dombrowski
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 3:56:24 GMT -5
What an awesome all around performance. Patriots playing fast, decisive, and somehow, in midseason form. No super bowl hangover happening here! It isn't week 12, but Jesus. That's as good as it gets. The Stealers aren't a great team, but they're good enough to be competitive. The Pats just wiped the floor with them. I'm going to love the the butt kicking this team gives, if Brady stays healthy. Talk about Murderer's row. Line them up for the slaying. I'm a big Edelman honk, but Jesus, Edelman is no Antonio Brown. Brown might be the best there is in the NFL right now. He is a unstoppable talent. Health is the only thing stopping this perfect thing. I don't know, I don't see many teams matching up with anything the Patriots offer. I just don't see it. Not saying this as a homer. They seem destined for glory. I can't see them losing. They will, maybe, I don't know. Maybe they're bound to slip up, but they're too well rounded. What a well oiled machine they are right now.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 2:48:23 GMT -5
ill Koch @billkoch25 · 3h Mookie Betts on Dave Dombrowski and how this affects future contract discussions -- 'This is proof that this is a business. Like I said, I love it here. But this is still a business.' #RedSox LOL. HERE IT COMES PEOPLE. The John Henry "I don't want to pay the premium" exuse/thing. No one wants to join me on the bandwagon. Whatever. I got roasted all year on here. Whatever. I'm just a garbage poster. Whatever. HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!!!! DON'T FORGET HISTORY, FOLKS!!!! DON'T FORGET WHAT HAPPENED TO MANNY RAMIREZ AND NOMAR!!! Like clockwork, John Henry. You cheap, billionaire. Sorry. Call it like I see it. It is what it is. Does anyone see it the way I do at least now? Yeah, probably not. Whatever.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 2:30:13 GMT -5
Either disagree or ignore it. They're passionate Red Sox fans who care alot about the team. Yes, this site is all about intelligent conversation, but there are going to be emotions involved. In baseball, particularly in that thread it will happen. I remember when Joe Morgan used to say that his team didn't play any more dead-ass than usual. Does that mean that he didn't really think his team hustled and was just mailing it in? Doubtful, but he was aggravated and that's how it came out. This year has been frustrating as hell. 2019 should have been a season where they win around 95, make the playoffs, and take their chances. Instead nothing has gone right this year and frankly it hasn't been enjoyable and there are a lot of hard questions surrounding this team going forward. Like you, I really don't blame Dombrowski. Some of the thing could have been forecast. I mean is it shocking that Sale and Eovaldi were health risks or even that Pearce was a veteran with an injury history (Pedro did call that one)? No, not really, but taken the gambles he did was reasonable or at least I thought so and if I had his job, I might be on the unemployment line. If that's really the reason he was fired. I suspect it was a smaller reason and that there's a lot more which will come out because secrets like that don't survive in Boston. I mean if CHB sensed what was going on, it's out there....so we will find out what lead to this. Well they're calling the team bums or incompetent for not hitting well, so sorry, I'm not ignoring it. They're god damn morons for calling people stupid for this shit. I can forgive pedro because he's a millennial who doesn't know any better, but soxfan is our age and he still is dumb about it despite supposedly going through all the heartbreaks we all did again and again 100 times. Lol. Here's the thing, I was a fan late of the late 1990's of the Sox. PEDROFANFOREVER. I remember the curse. I still think the way I do before and after. I'm not a labeled millennial. I was born before that ERA and was blaming John Henry before all this even happened. John Henry is like clockwork, dude. You can predict what he does with the budget. You can see what's coming before and after. Mookie is gone. See the Nomar Garciaparra days and Manny Ramirez days. Yeah, you argue against it, I just saw it like like a clear blue sky day. You know what? Bring on the forward thinking and creative thinking of the future GM of the Sox. Whether it's Romero or whoever. I don't care. Give me someone who thinks progressivesly and thinks of value moving forward. Welcome to the Eddie Romero ERA, I welcome it, personally. LET'S F-ING GO!!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 2:16:05 GMT -5
Dombrowski did the job right. He won it all and even prior to that he won games often. This feels a bit harsh, but the team is probably looking at a minor rebuild and maybe DD just wasn't the guy for that task. I feel like he was brought in to do one thing and he did that thing which in turn made him expendable. Tough, but it is what it is. This is definitely a wait and see. He was brought in to maximize the roster with the prospects of Mookie, JBJ, Devers, Benintendi, Xander, and company. HE SERVED HIS PURPOSE HERE. I think this was more of a mutual decision myself. Why would Dave Dombrowski attach himself to the future rebuild of the Red Sox when he can get out while he could attach himself as the label as a winner and a maximizer of talent?!!!
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 9, 2019 1:59:21 GMT -5
LOL. Me and my mother knew Mookie Betts wasn't going to get resigned.
Conflict of interests is at stake here. That's why Dombrowski got fired or whatever. My bottom line theory, but no one believes Pedrofan. Whatever, man. That's all I got to say.
EXPECT MOOKIE TO GET TRADED. I've been arguing it ad nauseam on this forum and now it's happening (due to organizational direction/GM change/not wanting to pay bottom dollar). Surprised. Shocked. Whatever. (Not really).
Yeah, I don't expect Dombrowski to reasonably attach his name to what is about to be expected to happen this off-season, because in a win now mode, it isn't what you expect to be done (the Mookie Betts' trade). Plain and simple.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 8, 2019 21:03:30 GMT -5
The Patriots might go perfect this year if Brady stays healthy. He's 42 and you can't tell the difference. Guy is the most unbelievable athlete I'll ever know. I wouldn't be surprised to see him say he'll sign for $1 next year, just to win an 8th. He'll get paid, but it doesn't matter. He's the only athlete I've seen being worth more than every penny he's earned throughout his career.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 8, 2019 20:46:01 GMT -5
The Patriots might go perfect this year if Brady stays healthy. He's 42 and you can't tell the difference. Guy is the most unbelievable athlete I'll ever know.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 8, 2019 18:44:09 GMT -5
Everybody we are chasing wins. Fat lady's singing getting louder. There might be 10 Red Sox fans on the planet watching this game during the first game of the Patriots season.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 8, 2019 18:42:34 GMT -5
Lol, the Dolphins might be the worst team in the NFL. Getting blown out. The Bills and Jets with no offensive points through a whole half of football. The division is so bad. The Patriots would win it with a cheerleader as a QB. Not surprised by Dolphins, traded away three key starters on cut down day, plus released four other starters from last year's team before that. That was a bad team last year, so he's going full on rebuild. What I don't get is starting Fitzpatrick when you are going full on rebuild. Start Rosen, see what you have. That's the point of a full on rebuild acquire picks and get the young guys playing time so you know what you have in the future. Now though they have so little talent on offense it's going to be hard for him to look good. It's similar to the Orioles playing Chris Davis at first base. The Dolphins are playing him because they probably want to lose.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Sept 8, 2019 14:50:10 GMT -5
Had to switch to Redskins and Eagles because the Bills and Jets was so bad. Both QBs still look like rookies. Both QB's might look like that for forever. Man they suck.
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