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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 22, 2024 17:33:26 GMT -5
Would a sac fly be too much to ask for? Nope, thanks to Duran.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 22, 2024 17:32:39 GMT -5
Would a sac fly be too much to ask for?
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 22, 2024 15:44:08 GMT -5
I didnt say your idea was stupid. I said it's not something I'd do. The closest parallel to me is the Hanley/Sanchez for Beckett/Lowell deal. Beckett was well established as a young ace at that point and back then pitchers actually could pitch 200 innings. Crochet is in the era where you're lucky if you get 180 innings and 5 minutes later it's time for TJS. Makes me not want to surrender the premier young talent it takes to get the pitcher. I'd rather see the Sox hang on to the talent and use money to sign a guy like Max Fried or Corbin Burnes or even Roki Sasaki if he becomes a free agent. Sure they're not going to get efficient bang for their buck but they hold onto Anthony, who might be the most talented young outfielder the Sox have developed since God knows when. I mean Anthony right now looks like he can be what Benintendi never turned into and what the hope for Ryan Westmoreland was. Looking at the Sox needs, they need a front line starter or two down the road and they need a RH masher they can stick between Devers and Casas in the lineup. The Sox farm is situated well enough they dint have to chase position players in free agency unless there's a Juan Soto, who will remain in NY most likely, but assuming they dont get Soto, a RH impact bat would be the need and unfortunately there are no Mannys, Cabreras, or Pujols out there, so with nobody out there to target, they might as well spend their money on front line pitching. At this point I'm keeping a close eye on Kristian Campbell's ascent while wondering if he could turn into that RH power bat they could comfortably stuff between Devers and Casas down the road in what looks like a lefty heavy lineup. Of course that's a lot of pressure to place on Campbell and I'm not saying he turns into that, but I'm keeping an eye on him to see if he continues to mash while maintaining enough of his hit tool. So far, so good. But with a lack of RH power hitting (but with a good hit tool) guys out there in the market coming down the pike, I think the Sox are best served saving their money for pitching and letting their young guys develop around them. And the good news is there's enough depth in my opinion to get a solid 2/3 starter down the road. In my opinion once Anthony becomes truly ready, Abreu (as long as Duran is healthy) starts becoming expendable in a deal for pitching down the road. ahhhhhhhhh i see. You think that there's a chance we spend big money in free agency. Yeah I gave up on that idea. We hired bloom to be more like the Rays, Breslow continued that outlook. I think the only way to get an ace would be through a trade. His age just fits the timeline of our studs. He just turned 25 yesterday. If you were on board with throwing 250+ million at Yamamoto then trading for Crochet makes even more sense. Maybe you can even keep the top 3 im just saying he just fits the team and needs way to perfectly to not go hard after him. Lol, you dont have a ton of faith that they will spend big bucks in free agency you say? Gee, why would you ever get that idea, lol. I dont have a lot of faith theyd win a bidding war against the Didgers, Mets, or Yankees...or A's, just kidding, but at some point logic would dictate that theyll bring in some front line talent and absent a premier RH slugger on the market or Soto, I'd think pitching is the only area left theyd spend their money on if they're going to spend money. They have a lot of cheap young regulars, which is a good thing, an overabundance. I say keep the best of the kids, trade some of the excess for somebody who could be a 2 or good 3 and sign an ace to stack with Houck as it looks like Crawford and Bello are good 3/4 starters who would be major assets as 4/5 starters assuming an ace is signed and a guy who could slot in in the middle between signed ace plus Houck and then Crawford plus Bello.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 22, 2024 9:31:14 GMT -5
He wants the Sox to trade Anthony in a Crochet deal, as he has mentioned in a couple of other threads. Crochet is pitching very well, but the guy has 16 career starts, so I'm not ready to anoint him an ace that I'd trade Anthony away for. Yeah you're correct he was the 11th pick in the draft because he isn't special. Roman is proven MLB talent. Ok now that we're done with that. Today was his 25th birthday so I felt like I needed to say it one more time. I'm done now. I didnt say your idea was stupid. I said it's not something I'd do. The closest parallel to me is the Hanley/Sanchez for Beckett/Lowell deal. Beckett was well established as a young ace at that point and back then pitchers actually could pitch 200 innings. Crochet is in the era where you're lucky if you get 180 innings and 5 minutes later it's time for TJS. Makes me not want to surrender the premier young talent it takes to get the pitcher. I'd rather see the Sox hang on to the talent and use money to sign a guy like Max Fried or Corbin Burnes or even Roki Sasaki if he becomes a free agent. Sure they're not going to get efficient bang for their buck but they hold onto Anthony, who might be the most talented young outfielder the Sox have developed since God knows when. I mean Anthony right now looks like he can be what Benintendi never turned into and what the hope for Ryan Westmoreland was. Looking at the Sox needs, they need a front line starter or two down the road and they need a RH masher they can stick between Devers and Casas in the lineup. The Sox farm is situated well enough they dint have to chase position players in free agency unless there's a Juan Soto, who will remain in NY most likely, but assuming they dont get Soto, a RH impact bat would be the need and unfortunately there are no Mannys, Cabreras, or Pujols out there, so with nobody out there to target, they might as well spend their money on front line pitching. At this point I'm keeping a close eye on Kristian Campbell's ascent while wondering if he could turn into that RH power bat they could comfortably stuff between Devers and Casas down the road in what looks like a lefty heavy lineup. Of course that's a lot of pressure to place on Campbell and I'm not saying he turns into that, but I'm keeping an eye on him to see if he continues to mash while maintaining enough of his hit tool. So far, so good. But with a lack of RH power hitting (but with a good hit tool) guys out there in the market coming down the pike, I think the Sox are best served saving their money for pitching and letting their young guys develop around them. And the good news is there's enough depth in my opinion to get a solid 2/3 starter down the road. In my opinion once Anthony becomes truly ready, Abreu (as long as Duran is healthy) starts becoming expendable in a deal for pitching down the road.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 21, 2024 20:24:25 GMT -5
Passing up on Crochet who's a young LH Ace that's under team control for a few years and available with the depth in the minors would be silly to pass up. Hes excatly what we need and is still so young. Breslow, DO IT! No one is “passing him up”, there’s a very legitimate cost involved and given the durability questions it’s fair to say it may not be worth it. He wants the Sox to trade Anthony in a Crochet deal, as he has mentioned in a couple of other threads. Crochet is pitching very well, but the guy has 16 career starts, so I'm not ready to anoint him an ace that I'd trade Anthony away for.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 21, 2024 18:38:44 GMT -5
Crawford has been homer prone lately.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 21, 2024 18:38:18 GMT -5
Geez, Espinal is up. How could the Sox let this guy go for Steve Pearce? Lol
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 21, 2024 18:33:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade guys now because you think Anthony will be in RF next year. Odds are Anthiny will spend the bulk of 2025 in AAA and who knows how long it takes to acclimate to major league pitching when he comes up. Same with Mayer and Teel. This deadline is NOT the deadline to get rid of guys who can help them in 2024 and 2025. They need Hamilton in 2024 and probably in 2025 as I wouldn't count on either Mayer or Story. They aren’t keeping Anthony in AAA for a year when he’s tearing up AA like he has at 20. Yes for all 3 it will take time to adjust to MLB pitching but once they do their ceilings are higher then what you’re getting right now so it’s worth the pain for the reward Anthony will be up at some point in 2025, but it's highly doubtful it'll be Opening Day so why screw themselves over in 2024 when they actually have a shot and when they could very well even have a better shot if they improve themselves over the winter? The Big 3's time will come but there's no need to throw them to the wolves and let them struggle when they have productive alternatives. At some point there will be injuries and yes at some point there likely will be a trade to open up a spot for Anthony but doing it when he's not primed to hit the ground running doesnt make sense. If they have no better alternatives then you take your chances but if you have key pieces producing and you have a kid that young and who likely will struggle there's no point in rushing things.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 21, 2024 17:47:46 GMT -5
I think they should be aggressive selling this deadline no FA coming back, Hamilton and Valdez probably don’t have spots come next spring, one of Duran or Abreu have to go because Anthony will be in RF Rafaela in CF and a right handed in LF so they’ll probably be competing for the 4th OF spot. I think they’re in a position to be the bell of the dance at deadline and build a really strong team and support system for the big 3 I wouldn't trade guys now because you think Anthony will be in RF next year. Odds are Anthiny will spend the bulk of 2025 in AAA and who knows how long it takes to acclimate to major league pitching when he comes up. Same with Mayer and Teel. This deadline is NOT the deadline to get rid of guys who can help them in 2024 and 2025. They need Hamilton in 2024 and probably in 2025 as I wouldn't count on either Mayer or Story.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 20, 2024 14:28:32 GMT -5
Kimbrel was with the Sox, he loaded the bases but it was Kelly who gave up the slam. Kimbrel’s best season was 2017, but of course he had blowups that season too Taiwan Sox is right on this one, found the following from an article bout the 9/28/16 game Kimbrel, however, gave up a leadoff single to Brett Gardner and issued three straight walks, the last forcing in a run. Red Sox manager John Farrell turned to Joe Kelly, who struck out Starlin Castro and retired Didi Gregorius on a foul popup. With the Yankees down to their last out, Teixeira, planning to retire after this season, launched a 99 mph fastball on an 0-1 count into the New York bullpen in right-center. Yup, brain fart. I knew Kimbrel was on the 2016 Red Sox. They got him about a month apart from getting David Price. I do remember Kelly giving up the grand slam after the Sox had already known that they had clinched. Their game was ahead of the other game that determined if theyd clinch or not until toward the end when the other game finished first. I believe by the beginning of the last of the 9th word trickled out that the Sox had already clinched.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 20, 2024 0:46:11 GMT -5
Kimbrel about to blow a save in the Bronx I watched him in-person give the walk-off slam to Teixeria lol That Teixeirs walk off occurred in 2016. Kimbrel wasnt with the Sox in 2016. Joe Kelly gave up the grand slam. Kimbrel pitched the division clincher against NY in 2018 striking out Stanton to finish off the 11-6 win.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 19, 2024 21:07:56 GMT -5
Ok, I'm convinced. The Sox are not going to finish last (excuse me, 5th out of 5 teams in the division).
They've been playing their best baseball of the year the past week and a half or so.
Duran, Hamilton, Rafaela, Tyler. and Valdez have been hot.
Hope they keep this up.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 19, 2024 20:46:28 GMT -5
I don't think I quite realized how important Willie Mays was to my conception of what baseball is until today. It's like looking up to the night sky, but the moon is gone. He's been the greatest living ballplayer for so long that it's hard to even comprehend anyone else wearing the crown. One other note about Willie Mays. I'm sure some (I was a baby then) remember Aaron and Mays chasing Ruth's HR record of 715 with Mays declining before he could reach Ruth while Aaron, a few years younger was able to surpass Ruth. But perhaps forgotten was that Mays spent the most of the 1952 season and all of the 1953 season in the military. In 1951 he had 20 HRs as a NL rookie. He had 4 HRs in 34 games in 1952 before heading to the military. He came back in 1954 and blossomed, smashing 41 HRs. This is conjecture here, but I don't think it would have been unreasonable to think he hits another 20 HRs in 1952 and perhaps 35 HRs in 1953 had he not went into the army. Given another 55 HRs, he might have passed Babe Ruth on the all-time HR list before Hank Aaron. If Mays had passed Ruth in his final season, Aaron would have passed Ruth and then all-time HR king Willie Mays during the 1974 season anyways. But of course Mays wasnt the only guy who lost time to the military. Perhaps Mays and Aaron would have been chasing all-time HR king Ted Williams who missed almost 5 full seasons due to military service. If Williams averaged 35 HRs during those years which was entirely plausible, then he would have been around 700 career HRs. If he ended 1960 at that figure there's no way Ted, coming off a 29 HR season wouldnt have come back in 1961 to pass Ruth. That's how great both were. They missed significant time serving our country and still were high up on the all time HR list. And yes, Ruth missed out hitting more HRs because he pitched in the desd ball era his first five seasons and Josh Gibson flat out didnt get the chance.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 19, 2024 16:47:32 GMT -5
I dont know where Campbell winds up defensively, but the Sox are very left handed and the Big 3 coming along are all lefties.
A power hitting righty is something this team can definitely use down the road. Of all the prospects beyond the Big 3, Campbell has captured my attention the most. Cespedes has as well, and yeah, to a lesser degree Bleis, but Campbell is somebody who could very well be on next year's team at some point later in the season, and eventually become a key player. I know there are concerns about his swing and increasing k rate, and while I'm certainly not projecting him to be an all star I think he could be quite interesting, interesting enough I wouldn't cap his potential.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 18, 2024 21:09:32 GMT -5
They've played an exciting brand of baseball the past week. The athleticism has been fun to watch.
Hope they can keep this up.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 18, 2024 20:22:25 GMT -5
RIP Willie Mays, one of the greatest players of all time, a guy who could have shared an outfield for a decade besides Ted Williams and could have spent another decade alongside Yaz had some of the Red Sox scouts of the late 40s not been bigoted.
The player who most reminded me of Willie Mays was Ken Griffey Jr.
The Sox player who reminded me the most of Mays was Mookie Betts although he'll be lucky to hit half the amount of home runs in his career that Mays hit, a total that could actually increase should the researchers find "proof" of the two HRs hit in the Negro Leagues that havent been verified as of yet. As it was Mays actually lived long enough to see 10 more hits get credited to his hit total although his average dropped from .302 to .301 lifetime.
But what was remembered was how he had all five tools to the extreme plus he also had the non traditional tools of great plate discipline and his brilliant baseball brain. Like I said only Mookie has all 7 tools that I can remember from following the Sox. It's rare or as Ted Williams once said, the game was invented for Willie.
Baseball lost a legend today. RIP Willie Mays.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 17, 2024 22:31:28 GMT -5
Basketball was glorious. The UConn Huskies and the Boston Celtics were such a joy!
Congratulations to our Boston Celtics on winning Banner 18!
Awesome to see the lineage of greatness continue, from Bill Russell, Cousy, Sharman, and Heinsohn to our guys like Brown and Tatum tonight and the stars in between like Havlicek, Bird, and Pierce.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 17, 2024 20:55:25 GMT -5
What a great half of basketball. Keep it up Celtics!!!!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 16, 2024 21:40:54 GMT -5
David Hamilton is going to force a lot of tough conversations in the front office. He looks like he is getting more comfortable at SS as well. You can't teach that speed. I think Hamilton is more lethal on the base paths than Duran is. As blinding as Duran is on the base paths, I think Hamilton is even faster and is also smoother. Duran was aptly named Captain Chaos for all the drama he creates with his running. Hamilton is more of a quiet efficiency. Either way they're a 1-2 punch atop the lineup that you have to keep off base or theyll steal you blind. And then there's Rafaela's speed at the bottom of the lineup as well. They are athletic as hell.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 16, 2024 21:21:04 GMT -5
While the defense wasnt perfect, hands down, this is the best game I've seen them play this year.
They literally ran over and through the Yankees with 9, count em, 9 stolen bases. Kelly was awesome in relief.
I was damn proud of them!!
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 16, 2024 20:20:56 GMT -5
Great houdini by Kelly. Amazing.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 16, 2024 12:58:12 GMT -5
I think the Celtics could turn the tables on the Mavs on game 4 behind a raucous Boston crowd ready to party.
While winning in a sweep would have been great it is more fun to win at home.
If they dont win Game 5 then it gets a bit more nerve wracking.
Winning game 7 in Boston would be fun too but let's not get there. TCB in Game 5!
I dont think the Celtics have played their best game in the Series yet. They're due. I'm hoping its Game 5.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 15, 2024 21:27:25 GMT -5
Always great beating the Yankees.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 15, 2024 12:13:36 GMT -5
If you told people that Casas, Yoshida, O’Neill, Bello, Story, Whitlock, Pivetta, Giolito, Grissom, Abreu, and Martin would all have IL trips in the preseason, I think people would have been a lot more pessimistic than to think this was a .500 team I definitely don’t see this as “their year” and clearly the ownership had zero faith in this group, but they’re are some definite signs of hope and life. It feels like 2015 again, and that’s still a good thing. There were plenty predicting 70 wins or less, and many more (myself included) who saw them as .500ish, even before all the injuries. Pretty hard to paint this team as a disappointment relative to expectations given all the extra adversity they've faced. I think the 2015 comparison is spot on. The fate of the '22 and '23 clubs was decided in July and August, and if we can hold off the sort of collapse they went through, I still see a wild card spot as a legitimate possibility. I dont think many were predicting less than 70 wins. I have them at 75 wins and I was on the lower side. I think 75 to 90 wins was more the range. I think a lot of teams were bitten hard by the injury bug this year, Sox included but they're kind of where I thought theyd be, hovering around .500 until the trade deadline, where I figured they'd sell and be in for some rough sledding line the previous 2 years. What I remember most about the 2015 team beyond the who's the ace t-shirts was that the team was awful, a continuation of the 2014 91 loss team, but then had a winning 2nd half, not all that dissimilar to the 1966 season. I'm not sure this is 2015. Let's see how they do as the season wears on.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jun 14, 2024 21:50:14 GMT -5
No good games to watch tonight. Yankees flatten the Sox and the Celtics didn't show up for Game 4. Well, at least the Patriots didnt lose tonight, so at least there's that lol.
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