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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 19, 2012 17:39:44 GMT -5
Dave Magadan leaving to take same position with the Rangers. Figured this was a decent place to put this. Looks like an entirely new coaching staff for next year, at least manager, pitching coach, hitting coach Sounds like a pre-emptive move. I'll bet the other coaches are looking behind the scenes. Off this season's experiences the new manager will be given control over staff makeup...and unless that guy is Farrell, the exit door will likely be swinging wide.
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Post by Guidas on Oct 19, 2012 17:53:43 GMT -5
Farrel doesn't get the job " ---------------------------- Maybe not a lock but...It's happening . McAdam is mentioning Matt Barnes as Comp. Wouldn't that be nice. I hope Larry told them it was a very bad joke If this team gives up Barnes for any manager the entire front office, Larry Lucchino and Carmine should all be fired.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 19, 2012 18:06:23 GMT -5
Farrel doesn't get the job " ---------------------------- Maybe not a lock but...It's happening . McAdam is mentioning Matt Barnes as Comp. Wouldn't that be nice. I hope Larry told them it was a very bad joke If this team gives up Barnes for any manager the entire front office, Larry Lucchino and Carmine should all be fired. Hear, Hear! Hell I don't want to give up Ciriaco! ...and no top minor leaguers. You can have Stewart & Carpenter. Can we please lose Farrell...? The Sox are like Chris Mathews responding to Obama. They are getting a "tingle up their (collective) legs" for this guy.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 19, 2012 18:53:41 GMT -5
en Rosenthal @ken_Rosenthal Sources: #RedSox, #BlueJays making progress on Farrell compensation agreement. Deal between Farrell and Red Sox fait accompli after that.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 19, 2012 19:05:27 GMT -5
Jen Royle @jen_Royle As I reported weeks ago, Jays don't want prospects. Beeston tells @bosheraldsports he wants at least one "decent player" for 25-man roster. BWHHAHAHAHAAHAHHA We'll give you Pedro Ciriaco and that's it.
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Post by mredsox89 on Oct 19, 2012 22:58:34 GMT -5
There is no way they give anyone in their top 10 prospects for Farrell, right? I still think he's the best for the job, ASSUMING they don't give anyone in the top 10-15, or legitimate MLB players
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 19, 2012 23:05:33 GMT -5
Dan Roche @rochiewbz MLB source tells me "nothing to report" on the #RedSox - managerial front. #wbz
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 19, 2012 23:09:05 GMT -5
Peter Gammons @pgammo Bosox were conflicted-Ausmus so great , but while there is "some progress" on Jays-Farrell talks, "not done." His boat moored in Woods Hole
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 19, 2012 23:36:58 GMT -5
Curt Schilling @gehrig38 Sox can't lose in this one. Farrell = stud, DHale is going to be awesome if he gets his shot and hearing amazing things about Ausmus
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Post by badfishnbc on Oct 20, 2012 0:42:09 GMT -5
None of what Schilling says differentiates any of the candidates from each other - it's win-win-win. I still want Ausmus, if only because he ordered calimari and beer while staying at Chatham Bars Inn during the All-Star break one year. Good basis for a manager, no? Better than fried chicken...
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 20, 2012 1:31:20 GMT -5
If there's one thing 2012 proved certain, it's Curt Schilling's management acumen.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 20, 2012 6:42:29 GMT -5
Got to admit, I started out wanting the Sox to bring back John Farrell, and have now done a 180 and would like them to hire Brad Ausmus.
I have this thing about ex-catchers. Who else on the diamond sees what they see? The answer is no one! There is a reason that the last 4 teams standing this year were all ran by ex-catchers. Since day one of their playing days they were supposed to, not only, take charge of the pitcher, but the entire defensive alignment.
Farrell would be fine, but to me Ausmus would be more than fine!
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Post by sibbysisti on Oct 20, 2012 7:13:40 GMT -5
The fact that the Sox have asked the Jays for permission to talk to Farrell could be an indication that the sides have come close to agreeing to compensation. Please, no Rubby or Webster. Zack Stewart seems appropriate.
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Post by adiospaydro2005 on Oct 20, 2012 8:43:09 GMT -5
Rob Bradford @bradfo
Source: Red Sox 'hope to have a resolution on the manager in the coming days' ... To me 'coming days' isn't after World Series
If they give the Jays anything more than guys like Carpenter, Sands, DeJesus, etc. (i.e. fringe major league guys) then you have to question the decision to hire Farrell over Asmus. This move appears to have Lucchino's hands all over it and we all know how well his last manager selection worked out.
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Post by remember04 on Oct 20, 2012 8:46:53 GMT -5
Got to admit, I started out wanting the Sox to bring back John Farrell, and have now done a 180 and would like them to hire Brad Ausmus. I have this thing about ex-catchers. Who else on the diamond sees what they see? The answer is no one! There is a reason that the last 4 teams standing this year were all ran by ex-catchers. Since day one of their playing days they were supposed to, not only, take charge of the pitcher, but the entire defensive alignment. Farrell would be fine, but to me Ausmus would be more than fine! This is pretty much my thoughts as well. The only question/concern I have with Ausmus is who his staff is going to be. Has he been thinking about who would make a good pitching coach etc.
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Post by sarasoxer on Oct 20, 2012 9:05:25 GMT -5
Got to admit, I started out wanting the Sox to bring back John Farrell, and have now done a 180 and would like them to hire Brad Ausmus. I have this thing about ex-catchers. Who else on the diamond sees what they see? The answer is no one! There is a reason that the last 4 teams standing this year were all ran by ex-catchers. Since day one of their playing days they were supposed to, not only, take charge of the pitcher, but the entire defensive alignment. Farrell would be fine, but to me Ausmus would be more than fine! This is pretty much my thoughts as well. The only question/concern I have with Ausmus is who his staff is going to be. Has he been thinking about who would make a good pitching coach etc. All these guys have been around baseball for a long time. They know who they best connect with and who they believe are quality coaches/instructors. Once they were contacted by the Sox for an interview, I am sure they would have formulated their staff candidates. I'll bet too that, as part of the interview process, they were asked who they regard highly as coaches and why etc. If they did not have a 'list' before the interview, I expect that the Sox asked them to give input after-the- fact.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2012 12:04:37 GMT -5
Rob Bradford @bradfo Source: Red Sox 'hope to have a resolution on the manager in the coming days' ... To me 'coming days' isn't after World Series If they give the Jays anything more than guys like Carpenter, Sands, DeJesus, etc. (i.e. fringe major league guys) then you have to question the decision to hire Farrell over Asmus. This move appears to have Lucchino's hands all over it and we all know how well his last manager selection worked out. uh no it does not.... they wanted JF last offseason, so it appears its mutual from FO to owners
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Oct 20, 2012 12:07:27 GMT -5
The fact that the Sox have asked the Jays for permission to talk to Farrell could be an indication that the sides have come close to agreeing to compensation. Please, no Rubby or Webster. Zack Stewart seems appropriate. The Jays already had Stewart. I'm going to guess that it'll cost the Sox Drake Britton and Jeremey Hazelbaker to obtain John Farrell. I personally would rather see Ausmus as the manager as Farrell seemingly has been unimpressive in Toronto and I'm not talking his W-L record. Apparently he and the GM have disconnect and at this point it's all about how much Anthropoulis can extort from the Red Sox for a manager he really doesn't want anyways. I hope the Sox do give the Jays somebody with the value of Ciriaco and lesser (and I'd prefer to see the Sox keep Britton for themselves).
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Post by brianthetaoist on Oct 20, 2012 14:08:40 GMT -5
If the Sox give the Jays anyone I care about, I'm gonna throw things (and, yes, that includes Drake Britton ... but it doesn't include Ciriaco). There's no way it's Rubby/Webster/Barnes. In fact, I'd bet cash money it's a position player, judging by the way Ben C seems to prioritize pitchers.
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Post by steveofbradenton on Oct 20, 2012 14:54:24 GMT -5
If the Sox give the Jays anyone I care about, I'm gonna throw things (and, yes, that includes Drake Britton ... but it doesn't include Ciriaco). There's no way it's Rubby/Webster/Barnes. In fact, I'd bet cash money it's a position player, judging by the way Ben C seems to prioritize pitchers. For want it is worth: Ben Cherington, Farrell is NOT worth Any of our young pitchers. Ausmus would be a GREAT fit!
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Post by GyIantosca on Oct 20, 2012 19:02:53 GMT -5
They want someone off of the 25 man. How about Aviles? Do they need a ss?
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2012 19:31:26 GMT -5
Peter Gammons @pgammo Will Farrell end up in Boston? Likely. Has it been decided between him and Ausmus? No. Has it been ceded to Cherington? Yes.big day Sunday
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 20, 2012 19:58:57 GMT -5
Can we not use "Lucchino is doing this" as the default reaction when the Red Sox do something other than what we'd do without any evidence of that being the case?
This thread has been spinning in circles a bit (seriously, if you've made the same point in the past couple of pages, you don't need to post it again - we get it), but it's a hot button topic, so whatever. But let's stay away from the completely baseless speculation please.
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Post by marrcus on Oct 20, 2012 20:06:56 GMT -5
"Yes.big day Sunday " ------------------------------------------- Then is there a big presser on Tues. (WS starts on Wed.)?
I still think the biggest factor is that the FO doesn't trust the next PC to work through the complicated problems of the staff (Bard, Lester, Lackey in particular). Farrell sort of insures against bad communication I would hope.
I knew Gammo would flip for Ausmus but I don't believe it's Ben's call ("ceded") for a minute. If Larry wants Farrell, it's Farrell.
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Post by grandsalami on Oct 20, 2012 20:15:29 GMT -5
"Yes.big day Sunday " ------------------------------------------- Then is there a big presser on Tues. (WS starts on Wed.)? I still think the biggest factor is that the FO doesn't trust the next PC to work through the complicated problems of the staff (Bard, Lester, Lackey in particular). Farrell sort of insures against bad communication I would hope. I knew Gammo would flip for Ausmus but I don't believe it's Ben's call ("ceded") for a minute. If Larry wants Farrell, it's Farrell. read the post above your's... lets not get into baselss "claims" again...
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