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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 21:15:13 GMT -5
There are no moves that would have saved this season. You still assume that free agency is the solution to every problem. Keeping your own isn't free agency. Thought we were talking about this season from the last few comments when you said "we didn't even go over the salary cap" past tense.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 30, 2014 21:16:10 GMT -5
We don't need to pull it all together immediately for 2015. Stockpiling assets and clearing cap room is a hell of a start for the rebuild this team needs. We still have a lot of great pieces to build around and money. Rebuild. We won the friggin World Series last year. We're not the Phillies. The FO mismanaged a winning ballclub. When are people going to call them out for it? If we were acting like the phillies we would either claim to be contenders all the way or make outrageous demands on all our players.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 30, 2014 21:16:57 GMT -5
Keeping your own isn't free agency. Thought we were talking about this season from the last few comments. I had already given up on this season. I see no way in hell of building a decent pitching staff in 2015 without Lackey and Lester.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Jul 30, 2014 21:17:36 GMT -5
There are no moves that would have saved this season. You still assume that free agency is the solution to every problem. Keeping your own isn't free agency. Keeping Ellsbury would have done nothing but hurt the future of this team. Keeping lester is up for debate but it didnt make an impact on this season.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 21:19:48 GMT -5
Thought we were talking about this season from the last few comments. I had already given up on this season. I see no way in hell of building a decent pitching staff in 2015 without Lackey and Lester. "And we didn't even go over the salary cap" If only we did, this season would be so much better.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 30, 2014 21:22:37 GMT -5
And, there's no salary cap. And, we didn't go over the luxury tax either. We can afford Lester and at least one other highly paid player. Don't trust anyone over 30! There are no moves that would have saved this season. You still assume that free agency is the solution to every problem. This is one of the worst teams...by record in baseball....who said anything about free agency saving the season?
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 30, 2014 21:23:27 GMT -5
I had already given up on this season. I see no way in hell of building a decent pitching staff in 2015 without Lackey and Lester. "And we didn't even go over the salary cap" If only we did, this season would be so much better. Ya know. You bitch constantly about the lineup, 25th guy on roster Carp, pinch-hit decisions, pitching changes and even replay challenges. Yet, you're ok with letting your best pitcher walk for a hope and a prayer. Color me confused.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 21:25:53 GMT -5
"And we didn't even go over the salary cap" If only we did, this season would be so much better. Ya know. You bitch constantly about the lineup, 25th guy on roster Carp, pinch-hit decisions, pitching changes and even replay challenges. Yet, you're ok with letting your best pitcher walk for a hope and a prayer. Color me confused. There's a huge difference between my bitching and bitching about not spending stupid money. I don't care that we didn't appear to try by wasting money. I want the team to be smart.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 30, 2014 21:26:08 GMT -5
Rebuild. We won the friggin World Series last year. We're not the Phillies. The FO mismanaged a winning ballclub. When are people going to call them out for it? If we were acting like the phillies we would either claim to be contenders all the way or make outrageous demands on all our players. No. Nice Strawman, though. My point...which you so easily misinterpreted..is that we should not be in a position to rebuild. But continue on.....
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 30, 2014 21:27:56 GMT -5
Ya know. You bitch constantly about the lineup, 25th guy on roster Carp, pinch-hit decisions, pitching changes and even replay challenges. Yet, you're ok with letting your best pitcher walk for a hope and a prayer. Color me confused. There's a huge difference between my bitching and bitching about not spending stupid money. Let's raise our glasses and have a cheer for John Henry's wallet!
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 21:29:34 GMT -5
There's a huge difference between my bitching and bitching about not spending stupid money. Let's raise our glasses and have a cheer for John Henry's wallet! If only we kept Ellsbury and Saltalamachia, we would have won the WS again!
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 30, 2014 21:31:17 GMT -5
There's a huge difference between my bitching and bitching about not spending stupid money. Let's raise our glasses and have a cheer for John Henry's wallet! Yes. He's laughing all the way to the bank...charging the highest prices for tickets...and possibly fielding the worst team in the American League for the 2nd time in 3 years. HIP..HIP...HOORAY!!!
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Post by pedroelgrande on Jul 30, 2014 21:31:19 GMT -5
There's a huge difference between my bitching and bitching about not spending stupid money. Let's raise our glasses and have a cheer for John Henry's wallet! If you don't care wether he makes money, it's only fair you shouldn't care wether he spends it.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 30, 2014 21:32:59 GMT -5
Let's raise our glasses and have a cheer for John Henry's wallet! If only we kept Ellsbury and Saltalamachia, we would have won the WS again! Please disprove this statement for us.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 21:34:18 GMT -5
Let's raise our glasses and have a cheer for John Henry's wallet! Yes. He's laughing all the way to the bank...charging the highest prices for tickets...and possibly fielding the worst team in the American League for the 2nd time in 3 years. HIP..HIP...HOORAY!!! Let's hear it for 3 championships when I though for sure I'd die without the Red Sox ever winning one. Go buy a pink hat.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 21:35:37 GMT -5
If only we kept Ellsbury and Saltalamachia, we would have won the WS again! Please disprove this statement for us. Ellsbury and Saltalamachia would need to have about 20 WAR between them
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 30, 2014 21:36:12 GMT -5
Yes. He's laughing all the way to the bank...charging the highest prices for tickets...and possibly fielding the worst team in the American League for the 2nd time in 3 years. HIP..HIP...HOORAY!!! Let's hear it for 3 championships when I though for sure I'd die without the Red Sox ever winning one. Go buy a pink hat. Oh man...You are so clever...Were you the originator of that phrase? You can't handle anyone disagreeing with you...that's on you...not me.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 30, 2014 21:36:15 GMT -5
Let's raise our glasses and have a cheer for John Henry's wallet! If only we kept Ellsbury and Saltalamachia, we would have won the WS again! Look Magoo, I've told you dozens of times I didn't want either of them. WTF are you talking about?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on Jul 30, 2014 21:37:03 GMT -5
Please disprove this statement for us. Ellsbury and Saltalamachia would need to have about 20 WAR between them You must've not seen my video post a while back..I could give a **** about WAR.
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Post by jimed14 on Jul 30, 2014 21:40:15 GMT -5
If only we kept Ellsbury and Saltalamachia, we would have won the WS again! Look Magoo, I've told you dozens of times I didn't want either of them. WTF are you talking about? You responded to a guy who was bitching about Cherington "mismanging a winning ballclub." with this comment WTF did you mean by that? Because that's only about THIS season when you talk about it in the past tense. That is telling me you think this season could have been different.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 30, 2014 21:42:33 GMT -5
no news on Victorino, eh?
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Post by gregblossersbelly on Jul 30, 2014 21:45:41 GMT -5
Look Magoo, I've told you dozens of times I didn't want either of them. WTF are you talking about? You responded to a guy who was bitching about Cherington "mismanging a winning ballclub." Oi with this comment WTF did you mean by that? Because that's only about THIS season when you talk about it in the past tense. That is telling me you think this season could have been different. Send We done. You're on ignore. Have fun arguing with yourself.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 30, 2014 21:50:49 GMT -5
gee. even the most inane arguments on here are informative and something useful is apt to slip thru the blather.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Jul 30, 2014 22:00:22 GMT -5
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Post by larrycook on Jul 30, 2014 22:20:01 GMT -5
Watching this offense is so painful!
How soon can we move bogey to first base and get middlebrooks up here.
Bradley has been in a funk ever since Farrell gave him a day off last week.
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