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Post by station13 on Apr 23, 2015 21:00:53 GMT -5
where is the vaunted remake offense?
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Post by Guidas on Apr 23, 2015 21:02:48 GMT -5
where is the vaunted remake offense? This. It needs to come out and play. Too much RISPy business.
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Post by ianrs on Apr 23, 2015 21:06:35 GMT -5
where is the vaunted remake offense? This. It needs to come out and play. Too much RISPy business. I swear if there is another RISP post...
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2015 21:06:35 GMT -5
where is the vaunted remake offense? This. It needs to come out and play. Too much RISPy business. Again? They have 3 hits. It's not RISP. It's just hitting. Most of it seems to be BABIP too.
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Post by bookiemetts on Apr 23, 2015 21:10:31 GMT -5
Varvaro works so slowly. I think it's been 3 minutes since he last threw a pitch.
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Post by soxfan06 on Apr 23, 2015 21:11:50 GMT -5
This team is going nowhere fast.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 23, 2015 21:11:57 GMT -5
Way to handle the bottom of the order, Vavaro.
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Post by kingofthetrill on Apr 23, 2015 21:13:02 GMT -5
Tough loss. I really thought that with a win in the first game that we'd be able to make it close to May without losing a series.
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Post by bsout2 on Apr 23, 2015 21:14:25 GMT -5
This offense sucks right now. They need to mix things up for the weekend series with Baltimore. Additionally, is Hamels available yet?
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2015 21:14:39 GMT -5
This team is going nowhere fast. LOL!
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Post by station13 on Apr 23, 2015 21:15:56 GMT -5
Infuriating series.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2015 21:16:03 GMT -5
This offense sucks right now. They need to mix things up for the weekend series with Baltimore. Additionally, is Hamels available yet? The guy with the 170 FIP-?
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 23, 2015 21:18:21 GMT -5
Please, please stop trotting Craig out there. He is done. I was very encouraged by Buchholz tonight though. And yesterday kelly looked great for a while.
I'm really looking forward to when Craig and Victorino are replaced by Castillo and hopefully Jackie.
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Post by Smittyw on Apr 23, 2015 21:18:50 GMT -5
Gutless!
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2015 21:19:25 GMT -5
If you look carefully at the triangles and squares, there a whole lot of green triangles on the corners or in the zone and a whole lot of red squares out of the zone. It was pretty horrible and biased.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 23, 2015 21:25:17 GMT -5
Thing I've found since those pitch charts and the pitch framing stats came out a couple years back:
Red Sox get all the calls = Hanigan/Ross/Etc is a great pitch framer! Other team gets all the calls = Go die you horrible biased umpires!
My eyesight is going on me but it looks like the Rays got three, maybe four more calls than the Red Sox. And the Red Sox got the benefit of the biggest miss on that chart. Basically, just like every ump, he called the zone too low and away against lefties and was pretty good otherwise.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 23, 2015 21:58:02 GMT -5
This. It needs to come out and play. Too much RISPy business. Again? They have 3 hits. It's not RISP. It's just hitting. Most of it seems to be BABIP too. Again. And yes, RISP is a function of hitting (and getting on base) we get that. Small sample, but to date Sox are 27th in ML in Ave and OBP with RISP, and 17th overall offensively in OPS. Stirling performance by Buchholz tonight aside, if the starters continue to give up 4+ runs a game they have to hit and plate runs. That's how this team is supposedly built. It's early but the pythag and the nearly 2 unearned runs per win both showing that this is more of a .500/sub-.500 team so far. This will continue unless the staff suddenly has more nights like tonight and/or more guys besides Hanley, Pedroia, Panda, and Xander start getting on base, and crossing the plate more frequently. Frustrating as hell watching so many wasted opportunities. They've had the guys in position to go ahead or even take over games. They just aren't capitalizing yet.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 23, 2015 22:06:17 GMT -5
The starting pitching has been encouraging and I think there is a lot of flexibility with cost controlled guys there moving forward.
The offense has a lot of moving parts and once we get the Craig/Victorino situation figured out and summer rolls in our offense will kick into gear. But right now those two are killing this team.
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Post by dcsoxfan on Apr 23, 2015 22:20:25 GMT -5
A couple of early observations:
At first sight this looks like a .500 team. It has scored basically the same number of runs as its opponents, and it OPS is pretty much identical to that of its opponents. But if you dig deeper, I think there are reasons for optimism. On the offensive side they are in the middle of the pack in strikeouts but lead the league in walks; only the white-hot Royals even come close to the Red Sox K/BB ratio. Similarly on the pitching side, they are also among the league leaders in K/BB ratio. I think K and BB statistics are probably more predictive statistics than runs or OPS. Major League hitters do get hits off good pitches and they do make outs on bad ones. These random chaotic effects -- representing the variability in human performance -- can dominate a small sample, but given enough time, they will tend to normalize. Thus, what many of us think we are seeing -- Red Sox hitters and pitchers controlling the zone better than their opponents, but still being outhit by them -- is probably correct and will normalize over time. (I think the best way to look at this is imagine losing a close basketball game on a night in which your opponent went 20 for 20 from the foul line or hit 2/3 of its three point shots. You weren't exactly unlucky -- the other team played well -- but, in a predictive sense, you played in a way that, all other things being equal, would suggest that you would be more likely to win the next meeting.)
Other thoughts:
I can't wait for Rusney Castillo to get healthy. I didn't like the trade for Craig or the signing of Sandoval, and I still don't.
Mookie Betts is in a slump, but even in a slump, he still adds enough with the glove and on the bases (and picking up the occasional walk) to be helpful. He'll come around.
I'm less confident in Xander Bogaerts, at least in the short term. I was encouraged by his improved K/BB rates, but they seem to have cratered lately. While I still have confidence in the long-term prognosis, I fear he may "get it" just in time to collect a big contract via free agency.
I think the pitching staff will ultimately be "good enough" to provide the opportunity for October baseball. Looking at the early season performances of Jon Lester, Cole Hamels and Jordan Zimmerman, I am even more convinced that, for all its risks, the Red Sox approach was the right one. In the post-PED era, you need to develop at least half of your pitching staff internally; signing free agent pitchers is too expensive and risky.
Finally, I still see this as a "semi-bridge" year. I think the team will be good enough to at least compete for a wild card, which means the Sox will be playing meaningful baseball this September and possibly October. I also think that the team has sufficient young, athletic talent, that by 2016 or 2017 at the latest, they could field a really talented, athletic, good club. However, I don't really see them as a strong threat to win it all this year -- and I would prefer they didn't pay a high price in future talent for the sake of possibly winning it all this year. I still see this as a team that is a year or two away from where it wants to be.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 23, 2015 22:22:12 GMT -5
Per rob bradford, Victorini hopes to play "at some point" this weekend...
Sending him to the DL to me is the easiest fix to this team in the short run. Otherwise our OF is going to get exposed by the Orioles.
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Post by James Dunne on Apr 23, 2015 22:24:42 GMT -5
Bogaerts has a .383 OBP and his out tonight went nearly 400 feet.
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2015 22:26:57 GMT -5
Again? They have 3 hits. It's not RISP. It's just hitting. Most of it seems to be BABIP too. Again. And yes, RISP is a function of hitting (and getting on base) we get that. Small sample, but to date Sox are 27th in ML in Ave and OBP with RISP, and 17th overall offensively in OPS. Stirling performance by Buchholz tonight aside, if the starters continue to give up 4+ runs a game they have to hit and plate runs. That's how this team is supposedly built. It's early but the pythag and the nearly 2 unearned runs per win both showing that this is more of a .500/sub-.500 team so far. This will continue unless the staff suddenly has more nights like tonight and/or more guys besides Hanley, Pedroia, Panda, and Xander start getting on base, and crossing the plate more frequently. Frustrating as hell watching so many wasted opportunities. They've had the guys in position to go ahead or even take over games. They just aren't capitalizing yet. There were at least 3 fly ball outs that would have either been homers or doubles in Fenway tonight. Mookie isn't going to bat under .200 because a .200 BABIP is freakishly low. It's not like he's not hitting the ball well. Papi's BABIP is .189. Hanley's BABIP is .222. Pedroia's is .267. The only ones who will regress is Holt's obviously. Sandoval and Bogaerts have high BABIPs, but not outrageous. Also, the entire starting rotation has ERA's over their FIPs, some significantly. The team xFIP for starters is 3.66 before tonight. Their ERA is 5.71. Despite all of this bad luck that is certain to regress, they're still tied for first and have a 9-7 record.
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Post by soxfan2015 on Apr 23, 2015 22:27:15 GMT -5
Anyone here any word on when Rusney will be able to play again? Anxious to see him called up, about tired of victorino
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Post by dcsoxfan on Apr 23, 2015 22:46:02 GMT -5
Bogaerts has a .383 OBP and his out tonight went nearly 400 feet. Isn't that OBP at least partially a product of BABIP "luck"? Still hope you 're right
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 23, 2015 22:54:01 GMT -5
Bogaerts has a .383 OBP and his out tonight went nearly 400 feet. Isn't that OBP at least partially a product of BABIP "luck"? Still hope you 're right Some is that, some is the 11.7% walk rate. His BABIP is .372 which is high, but not Brock Holt high.
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