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Post by mgoetze on May 27, 2015 14:37:04 GMT -5
If we don't win at least we can make Perkins' arm fall off. Napoli has set the bar with 12 pitches, but Holt will not take the loss lying down.
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Post by mgoetze on May 27, 2015 14:38:12 GMT -5
Is Castillo available to PH for Holt? Probably but JF's SSS stats tell him not to do it.
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Post by nomar on May 27, 2015 14:40:28 GMT -5
I posted 3+weeks ago that ERod should be brought up during this 20 game stretch. I ssaid 6 man rotation for a spell...and ppl said I was,dumb. Eat your words sirs I know for a fact this happened. They shouldn't have done this three weeks ago, when Rodriguez had less than 5 AAA starts. Holt leading our team in OPS is unexpected.
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Post by ianrs on May 27, 2015 14:40:35 GMT -5
Well that was a rather frustrating series. Onto the next.
Let's go E-Rod?!
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Post by jrffam05 on May 27, 2015 14:43:58 GMT -5
Who's going down for E-Rod? If Castillo is unavailable I don't think they could move Bianchi without calling up another position player.
I'm guessing Hembree, which is unfortunate because I think he is deserving of a chance.
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Post by danr on May 27, 2015 14:47:24 GMT -5
This probably is just coincidental but Bogaerts hit well in the 5th spot in the lineup and the Red Sox won a couple of games, but stopped hitting when he was moved back down and the Red Sox stopped winning.
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Post by grandsalami on May 27, 2015 14:50:08 GMT -5
Is Castillo available to PH for Holt? Probably but JF's SSS stats tell him not to do it. He is injured for fudge sake
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 27, 2015 14:50:10 GMT -5
Looking good for another protected draft pick.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on May 27, 2015 15:33:16 GMT -5
Starting to wonder if Farrell is the right guy for this team.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 27, 2015 15:41:12 GMT -5
Looking good for another protected draft pick. I'd say so, but the only difference between last year and this year, other than a higher payroll, is that if the Sox continue to tank, they don't have much to offer on the July 31st deadline. Last year they were sitting on Lester, Lackey, Miller, and Uehara. Out of that, the best move the Sox made pitches tomorrow. You make a good point about the protected draft pick. That would make it a little easier for the Sox to gamble on signing a free agent front-of-the-rotation starter in the offseason.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 27, 2015 15:41:29 GMT -5
Starting to wonder if Farrell is the right guy for this team. When nearly every facet of the team stinks, it's the GM. BC makes one crappy trade after another. One poor free-agent signing after another the last 2 years. Yet, we blame Farrell. Do I think we can get a better manager than Farrell? Probably. But, he's far from our biggest problem.
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Post by jdb on May 27, 2015 15:42:13 GMT -5
Starting to wonder if Farrell is the right guy for this team. I think it's safe to worry about a lot of things in the organization.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 27, 2015 15:50:19 GMT -5
Starting to wonder if Farrell is the right guy for this team. When nearly every facet of the team stinks, it's the GM. BC makes one crappy trade after another. One poor free-agent signing after another the last 2 years. Yet, we blame Farrell. Do I think we can get a better manager than Farrell? Probably. But, he's far from our biggest problem. I think that timing is the issue. Cherington put together an offense where the middle of the order is toward the end of their prime or where the kids aren't what they probably will be in the future. It's like they're caught in between. He tried to capture prime years for guys like Kelly, Miley, and Porcello. He had the right idea with that thought process, but I think he had too much performance risk involved with the starters, which is another reason I wasn't happy to see the Sox not sign Lester and sign Masterson instead. With the Sox now 5 games under and going nowhere, I really wonder what Ben Cherington could have gotten for Lester and Lackey. It seemed that he wanted to reshuffle the deck rather than rebuild with those two deals. We'll never know what kids were available in a deal. I have trouble believing that the young talent he could have gotten wasn't as good or better than the good young talent he received in Rodriguez for Andrew Miller. His moves told me that he was trying to balance the needs of 2015 with the needs of the long-term future, as if he couldn't commit to one way or the other. Because the Sox can never truly "rebuild" the pressure is on Ben C to not have another repeat of 2014, which is why the Sox made the deals they made, and why I have to think if the Sox are within 5 games or so come July 31st, no matter how mediocre their record, they'll do something drastic that I think they normally wouldn't do, which is touch that core of good young talent, the one major thing that Ben C should get credit for assembling. I want to see how that core turns out. That's one of the reasons I can be patient with Ben and not be calling for his head, or even for Farrell's. We're watching an aggravating "bridge" team that was supposed to compete, but instead has been nothing but a mediocre disappointment.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 27, 2015 15:51:35 GMT -5
Wouldn't Lester fronting this staff and Cespedes in LF be better than this mess? No difference in money once Porcello's new deal kicks in.
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Post by grandsalami on May 27, 2015 15:52:38 GMT -5
@scottlauber: Hanleys explanation for why he hasnt been pulling ball: Most pitches theyve thrown me inside are balls. Im not supposed to pull that.
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Post by jrffam05 on May 27, 2015 15:59:28 GMT -5
Wouldn't Lester fronting this staff and Cespedes in LF be better than this mess? No difference in money once Porcello's new deal kicks in. So the upgrade of Lester over Porcello in 2015 so far has been .7 WAR, if we round that up to 1 Win and not consider the years after 2015, and the fact that Porcello is performing worse than his historical stats and projects would suggest, and ignore the fact that Porcello will be 30 in his last year of control and Lester will be 36, it still wouldn't make that much of a difference on the season so far.
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Post by jimed14 on May 27, 2015 16:00:25 GMT -5
Starting to wonder if Farrell is the right guy for this team. When nearly every facet of the team stinks, it's the GM. BC makes one crappy trade after another. One poor free-agent signing after another the last 2 years. Yet, we blame Farrell. Do I think we can get a better manager than Farrell? Probably. But, he's far from our biggest problem. Unless you bitched about all those trades and free agent signings, it's likely that you don't have the answers either.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 27, 2015 16:01:12 GMT -5
Wouldn't Lester fronting this staff and Cespedes in LF be better than this mess? No difference in money once Porcello's new deal kicks in. So the upgrade of Lester over Porcello in 2015 so far has been .7 WAR, if we round that up to 1 Win and not consider the years after 2015, and the fact that Porcello is performing worse than his historical stats and projects would suggest, and ignore the fact that Porcello will be 30 in his last year of control and Lester will be 36, it still wouldn't make that much of a difference on the season so far. I doubt if Lester strugles at the beginning of the season if he comes back to the Sox. Now, tell me how Hanley's WAR is helping?
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Post by jimed14 on May 27, 2015 16:01:40 GMT -5
Wouldn't Lester fronting this staff and Cespedes in LF be better than this mess? No difference in money once Porcello's new deal kicks in. Not much, and definitely not in 5 years.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 27, 2015 16:09:52 GMT -5
Wouldn't Lester fronting this staff and Cespedes in LF be better than this mess? No difference in money once Porcello's new deal kicks in. Not much, and definitely not in 5 years. So Cespedes + 1.7 and Hanley's -0.6 don't count? I doubt that Porcello will be better than Lester at any point in his contract with the Sox. From this year thru 2019. If you're worried about 2020, I'm with you.
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Post by wcp3 on May 27, 2015 16:10:33 GMT -5
So this team is awful, huh?
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Post by grandsalami on May 27, 2015 16:12:39 GMT -5
“@peteabe: Ortiz, Ramirez and Sandoval were 4 for 35 in the series. 1 run, 2 RBIs. March dreams of a high-octane offense have faded in May for #RedSox”
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Post by grandsalami on May 27, 2015 16:13:00 GMT -5
Wouldn't Lester fronting this staff and Cespedes in LF be better than this mess? No difference in money once Porcello's new deal kicks in. Not much, and definitely not in 5 years.
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Post by gregblossersbelly on May 27, 2015 16:16:37 GMT -5
Not much, and definitely not in 5 years. I'll take 5 years of being better. Porcello won't be with the Sox after 5 years anyway.
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Post by benjaminbuttons on May 27, 2015 16:36:56 GMT -5
“@peteabe: Ortiz, Ramirez and Sandoval were 4 for 35 in the series. 1 run, 2 RBIs. March dreams of a high-octane offense have faded in May for #RedSox” it's one thing for the meat of your order to struggle against elite pitching, but that's far from what they saw in this series. It seems like one guy at a time gets hot in this line up, while the rest give you nearly nothing. I'm most worried about Ortiz, maybe he's playing hurt but he's nearly 40 years old. He's crushed fastballs in his career but this year he's not catching up to them. The other thing is if Hanley isn't hitting then he kills this team. If I'm a pitcher and I know Hanley is out there lolly gagging, that will take up real estate in my brain, nm his actual defensive play. Sry for long paragraph my phone is a pos.
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