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Post by wcsoxfan on Dec 1, 2015 16:27:00 GMT -5
Do you see Shaw as a platoon partner? I kind of see Marrero as the IF version of Holt, and a better late inning defensive option. If Bradley were moved, it would open a roster spot for Marrero. I'd like to see Shaw get some LF exposure, especially in a small park like Fenway, but it's worth pointing out he was a pretty mediocre hitter vs. RHP, both in the majors and minors last year. I disagree on Marrero vs. Holt. If Chris Young is the 4th OF behind Rusney/JBJ/Mookie, there's no room for Holt to get at bats, unless you play him a bunch in LF over Rusney vs. RHP (and that's not the best way to use him). He seems a lot more apt to step in for any infielder and still put up competent numbers, and while his defense is significantly worse, it's not bad. Holt has been a much better hitter vs RHP than Castillo, is a better baserunner and has been only marginally worse defensively in the OF (20 UZR/150 vs 13.3 UZR/150; 17 DRS vs 12 DRS in similar playing time). I think Holt's OF defense is often forgotten when evaluating his overall ability. He's a great super utility guy, but not playing him over Castillo vs 'some' RHP seems like the Red Sox not putting their best team on the field just so they have a utility guy on the bench. Doesn't make sense to me. If Pedroia goes down mid-game, they can always shift Holt to 2B and put Castillo/Young/Shaw in LF. So the only thing you lose is a pinch runner off the bench (as Shaw/Young are likely better pinch-hitting options anyway). Of course someone will probably go down in spring training and make this all moot - but it's important when dream casting the best team on the field.
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Post by larrycook on Dec 1, 2015 21:44:35 GMT -5
i think young can play all three outfield positions, does that make holt the fifth outfielder and super infield utility guy?
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Post by grandsalami on Dec 2, 2015 10:53:50 GMT -5
Red Sox make OF Chris Young signing official. Two-year deal. RHP Roman Mendez DFA'd to make room on roster.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 2, 2015 11:09:32 GMT -5
I completely forgot that we had Mendez for about 5 minutes.
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Post by jimed14 on Dec 2, 2015 13:09:48 GMT -5
Red Sox make OF Chris Young signing official. Two-year deal. RHP Roman Mendez DFA'd to make room on roster. So there are two mentions of Mendez being DFA'd, one for Young and one for Price.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Dec 2, 2015 13:18:15 GMT -5
Red Sox make OF Chris Young signing official. Two-year deal. RHP Roman Mendez DFA'd to make room on roster. So there are two mentions of Mendez being DFA'd, one for Young and one for Price. If anyone said he was DFA for Price, they're mistaken. Price is not official yet.
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Post by ericmvan on Dec 2, 2015 20:19:12 GMT -5
i think young can play all three outfield positions, does that make holt the fifth outfielder and super infield utility guy? Young is their fourth best defensive CFer. If he sees an inning there, either something has gone wrong or JF's being silly (e.g., keeping JBJ in RF and playing Young in CF rather than vice versa, if Mookie is out). And I think Holt and Young platoon as the replacement for any injured OFer. The big conundrum (apologies if this has been raised already) is that signing a guy with no 1B experience means that when Ortiz gets a day off versus a tough LHP, you don't get to DH Hanley.
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Post by nomar on Dec 2, 2015 20:40:39 GMT -5
i think young can play all three outfield positions, does that make holt the fifth outfielder and super infield utility guy? Young is their fourth best defensive CFer. If he sees an inning there, either something has gone wrong or JF's being silly (e.g., keeping JBJ in RF and playing Young in CF rather than vice versa, if Mookie is out). And I think Holt and Young platoon as the replacement for any injured OFer. The big conundrum (apologies if this has been raised already) is that signing a guy with no 1B experience means that when Ortiz gets a day off versus a tough LHP, you don't get to DH Hanley. Or they can just play Shaw
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Post by xanderdu on Dec 3, 2015 1:26:54 GMT -5
i think young can play all three outfield positions, does that make holt the fifth outfielder and super infield utility guy? Young is their fourth best defensive CFer. If he sees an inning there, either something has gone wrong or JF's being silly (e.g., keeping JBJ in RF and playing Young in CF rather than vice versa, if Mookie is out). And I think Holt and Young platoon as the replacement for any injured OFer. The big conundrum (apologies if this has been raised already) is that signing a guy with no 1B experience means that when Ortiz gets a day off versus a tough LHP, you don't get to DH Hanley. Wouldn't they just use Shaw, and his reverse split, in this situation? Hanley at DH?
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Post by mgoetze on Dec 3, 2015 10:52:41 GMT -5
Wouldn't they just use Shaw, and his reverse split, in this situation? I see no reason to assume Shaw has a reverse split.
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Post by xanderdu on Dec 3, 2015 14:00:39 GMT -5
Wouldn't they just use Shaw, and his reverse split, in this situation? I see no reason to assume Shaw has a reverse split. No assumption at all. It's in the data. 329 versus LH, .243 vs RH. Since he's a lefty, that is the definition of a reverse split.
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Post by ethanbein on Dec 3, 2015 14:03:18 GMT -5
I see no reason to assume Shaw has a reverse split. No assumption at all. It's in the data. 329 versus LH, .243 vs RH. Since he's a lefty, that is the definition of a reverse split. "Had a reverse split in 85 PAs versus lefties" is not the same as "has a reverse split".
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Post by jimoh on Dec 3, 2015 14:22:31 GMT -5
No assumption at all. It's in the data. 329 versus LH, .243 vs RH. Since he's a lefty, that is the definition of a reverse split. "Had a reverse split in 85 PAs versus lefties" is not the same as "has a reverse split". True, and important, but he had a slight reverse split in 570 PA in AAA and mlb in 2015, a big split in 2014 (.926 vs. .638), and slight reverse splits in 529 PA in 2013. There's no reason to expect a dependable reverse split, but he might benefit less than some from a platoon.
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Post by xanderdu on Dec 3, 2015 14:54:02 GMT -5
No assumption at all. It's in the data. 329 versus LH, .243 vs RH. Since he's a lefty, that is the definition of a reverse split. "Had a reverse split in 85 PAs versus lefties" is not the same as "has a reverse split". Thanks for clarification. I was a lazy poster from my phone. Jim expanded on what I left out. I don't suspect this to continue, just that it is there presently.
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Post by jmei on Dec 4, 2015 9:44:12 GMT -5
Moved the Farrell-centric posts to that thread.
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Post by jiant2520 on Dec 4, 2015 11:36:02 GMT -5
I'd like to see Holt/Shaw at 3B vs LHP. Sit Sandoval vs lefties. Then make sure Young is hitting vs lefties. Maybe Bradley will sit vs some lefties with Betts in CF and Young in RF.
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Post by grandsalami on Jun 5, 2016 14:58:36 GMT -5
So. Chris young can only hit lefties eh?
“@brianmacp: All four of the home runs Chris Young has hit this year have come against righties.”
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Post by nomar on Jun 5, 2016 15:48:57 GMT -5
He's the new Carp and I love every second of it. I'm not even going to look at his splits because like Carp, his season defies any logic, pattern, or precedent.
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Post by mattpicard on Jun 5, 2016 17:22:07 GMT -5
I mean, everyone knows that he's capable of hitting bombs regardless of pitcher-handedness. He entered today OPS'ing .724 vs RHP and 1.175 vs LHP, so nothing too wacky.
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Post by sox fan in nc on Jun 6, 2016 9:07:00 GMT -5
IMO, there's really not a drop-off from Swihart to CY in LF. It is a drop-off from CY to Castillo. We need to buy low on Reddick now when he is hurt & roll the dice on his wrist healing properly. Beane may or may not want to do this, may be worth the call.
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Post by radiohix on Jun 6, 2016 14:23:06 GMT -5
IMO, there's really not a drop-off from Swihart to CY in LF. It is a drop-off from CY to Castillo. We need to buy low on Reddick now when he is hurt & roll the dice on his wrist healing properly. Beane may or may not want to do this, may be worth the call. It's a thumb not a wrist: A much different, and less riskier, injury.
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