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Post by klostrophobic on Apr 27, 2016 23:53:35 GMT -5
Pedroia now with 6 GIDP this year. On pace for 48. Take the good with the bad.....but does it mean he is having a harder time getting the ball off the ground? Pvs career high is 24. Or he's hitting the ball hard and there are a lot of baserunners.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 28, 2016 0:44:07 GMT -5
Pedroia now with 6 GIDP this year. On pace for 48. Take the good with the bad.....but does it mean he is having a harder time getting the ball off the ground? Pvs career high is 24. Or he's hitting the ball hard and there are a lot of baserunners. Or none of the above, and he's been unlucky. His GB% is unchanged (actually a bit down) versus 2013-2015, his Hard% is unchanged from last year and below his career average, and his percentage of PA in a GDP situation is absolutely unchanged versus his career (18.6% versus 18.5%).
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Apr 28, 2016 0:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 28, 2016 6:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by nomar on Apr 28, 2016 7:37:48 GMT -5
Tanaka has been very good, Eovaldi has been good and his ERA is inflated a bit, and Pineda will likely bounce back once he figured out why he's giving up so many HR. Their offense will end up being a bigger liability. A bunch of old former all stars and young low ceiling bats. Bird going down is going to hurt them.
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 28, 2016 8:10:35 GMT -5
Here's where each guy is doing compared to rest-of-season PECOTA projections: Shaw, >> 90th percentile (.316 vs. 293) Holt, 80 (but he does this early in every year) Bogaerts, 62 Ortiz, 59 Pedroia, 35 (wRC+ exceeds projections, but TAv includes his 5 GDP) Bradley, 31 Betts, 15 Vazquez, 12 Ramirez, <10 Revision (one game later!): Shaw, >> 90th percentile (.326 vs. 293) Ortiz, 80 Pedroia, 66Holt, 63 Bogaerts, 57 Bradley, 34 Betts, 18 Vazquez, 12 Ramirez, <10
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Post by okin15 on Apr 28, 2016 8:20:31 GMT -5
It's ridiculous to look at this at this point. And Pecota is a slave to past statistics, so it's no surprise that Hanley, who really has been pretty decent, and Shaw, who everyone knows is outperforming his priors are off the charts (litterally).
ADD: I guess my point is, what does this tell us? That these guys are performing at a certain level, or that Pecota is wrong? Or what? I mean, we know it's not the latter, because see the changes in Pedie and Holt over one game. And we know Pecota's limits...
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Post by dd on Apr 28, 2016 8:57:24 GMT -5
I was actually about to call out the haters from last year. Good for you. I'm not a hater either, I hope he wins the Cy. I've just never liked watching knuckleballers. LOL, I'm old, I didn't like watching Wilhelm (one of the greatest pitchers ever), the Niekros, Wilber Wood, Charlie Hough, Wakefield or Dickey either. That's a pretty decent group of pitchers. I'm 100% on the other side of this, especially wrt Wilhelm & Wake. I also like the occasional NBA player who is under 6', NFL players who look like normal sized humans, and NHL players not from Canada (not rare any more but exceedingly rare not too many years ago). There was never a chance regardless of anything I did that I could ever have become 6'8" tall or a musclebound 350 pounder or throw a baseball 90mph (or be Canadian). Watching a knuckle ball pitcher though you have the (probably illusory) feeling that this is something anybody could learn to do with hard work. If only I'd been more motivated as a youth, maybe I could have been a star ... Sigh. Where'd I put those donuts ...
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Post by sox fan in nc on Apr 28, 2016 10:21:49 GMT -5
Gotta feel for the Braves....Night game tonight (with Buchholz pitching) & day game tomorrow 1:20 CST in Chicago (Cubs). Need a sweep against this team. Buch needs to step up. At least we have a rested BP.
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Post by brianthetaoist on Apr 28, 2016 11:31:24 GMT -5
Gotta say, a manager looks A LOT better when his starters go 7-8 innings a few times in a row.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 28, 2016 14:47:29 GMT -5
Young starting vs a righty again.
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Post by gerry on Apr 28, 2016 15:14:00 GMT -5
Young starting vs a righty again. Point. Counter-Point, and so the discussion resumes.
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Post by Guidas on Apr 28, 2016 15:21:46 GMT -5
Young starting vs a righty again. And batting 7th, not as bad as 5th or 6th but, well, he's basically the offensive equivalent of an NL a pitcher vs. righties.
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Post by huskies15 on Apr 28, 2016 15:29:12 GMT -5
So Xander has around a 55% ground ball rate. Hard to see the power we all hoped for coming with such a lack of fly balls. I'm hoping he can sustain a high BABIP with all these ground balls.
Let's see if Buccholz can get some control tonight to limit walks and stay out of the middle of the plate.
I smell sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 28, 2016 15:53:23 GMT -5
Young starting vs a righty again. Point. Counter-Point, and so the discussion resumes. What exactly is the counter-point? That he needs his at bats so he can get going? That doesn't even make sense.
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Post by grandsalami on Apr 28, 2016 15:57:14 GMT -5
Point. Counter-Point, and so the discussion resumes. What exactly is the counter-point? That he needs his at bats so he can get going? That doesn't even make sense. you are naive if you think Young was signed soly to start against Lefties and nobody else. NO player would sign with a team if they were only going to start like once every week... He is going to start against the occasional RHP so give a player a day off.. . We have ALL seen what happens if you try riding Holt into the ground...
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Post by ericmvan on Apr 28, 2016 17:19:02 GMT -5
It's ridiculous to look at this at this point. And Pecota is a slave to past statistics, so it's no surprise that Hanley, who really has been pretty decent, and Shaw, who everyone knows is outperforming his priors are off the charts (litterally). ADD: I guess my point is, what does this tell us? That these guys are performing at a certain level, or that Pecota is wrong? Or what? I mean, we know it's not the latter, because see the changes in Pedie and Holt over one game. And we know Pecota's limits... Warning: for entertainment value only. In the sense that there's nothing predictive at all; it's purely descriptive. But it's a helpful description. It was just meant to objectively measure the question, how has the team done offensively relative to expectations? There was some debate about that, some folks saying "almost no one's hit as well as hoped" and others rebutting it. This is an objective answer, and yes, it changes every day at this point in the season, which is why it's difficult to judge subjectively. If you missed the game where Holt went 0 for 4 or Pedroia had 2 HRs, your sense of how they're doing is affected, even if you've looked at their numbers. Early in the season, too, there's more sequencing randomness, so there's a much rougher match between team scoring and how well guys are hitting. More stuff that makes the objective translate poorly to the subjective. And another reason why objective data like this is useful early in the season. It's useful for different reasons than we usually look at data.
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Apr 28, 2016 17:59:18 GMT -5
What exactly is the counter-point? That he needs his at bats so he can get going? That doesn't even make sense. you are naive if you think Young was signed soly to start against Lefties and nobody else. NO player would sign with a team if they were only going to start like once every week... He is going to start against the occasional RHP so give a player a day off.. . We have ALL seen what happens if you try riding Holt into the ground... Then we can mark that deal down as a failure. Simply atrocious vs RHP. Maybe if they brought him into late innings as a defensive replacement for holt I might get it but he has been killing this team when he starts vs righties.
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Post by humanbeingbean on Apr 28, 2016 18:27:15 GMT -5
Pierzynski's costing a ton of strikes already. Him stabbing and dropping so often makes Christian seem even smoother back there.
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Post by atzar on Apr 28, 2016 18:30:55 GMT -5
What a weird play...
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Post by mgoetze on Apr 28, 2016 18:31:33 GMT -5
When you think you've seen everything...
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Post by jimed14 on Apr 28, 2016 18:33:03 GMT -5
Joe West being Joe West again. wtf
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Post by dridiot on Apr 28, 2016 18:33:48 GMT -5
On Gameday, so no idea what happened, but... Edit: It's changed. Now it makes slightly more sense.
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Post by bosox89 on Apr 28, 2016 18:45:00 GMT -5
Boo this man
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Post by templeusox on Apr 28, 2016 18:47:15 GMT -5
Nice job walking Jace Peterson after bring up 0-2. Also, Travis Shaw playing third will bite us in the *** many times this year. He simply doesn't have the mobility of a major league third basemen. I
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