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5/20-5/22 Red Sox vs. Indians Series Thread
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 23, 2016 0:29:40 GMT -5
Xander is almost being overlooked with what JBJ has been doing. Xander is a hitting machine. When the power comes...oh boy. You're right, he's not getting the attention he deserves. Some of that power is showing up as lots of doubles. He's been hitting balls deep to left center, high off the wall. He's almost reached .900 OPS and he's at the top of the AL food chain for the SS position. The Sox' young players are so good and he's so quiet, he's almost lost in the crowd.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on May 23, 2016 1:01:39 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this 3 straight Sundays where Ortiz is being flat out ridiculous? I think two Sundays ago he got his revenge against the NY crowd and shut them up with two mammoth homers (to toe and pass Mel Ott and join Ernie Banks and Eddie Matthews). Then last Sunday he got his triple to tie the Astros game with two outs and got a flour bath for his game winning (600th career) double in the 11th. And this Sunday, he merely goes 4-4 with an intentional walk, and misses the cycle because his sure triple into the triangle hits the padding, defies gravity, and ricochets right into the bullpen. So what's he doing next Sunday? Hitting 5 home runs in a game? Watching the highlights of today's game gives me real pause about the ball being juiced this year -- and my evidence is Ortiz's two ground rule doubles. The first hit in front of the bullpen and bounced completely OVER the bullpen and a few rows up into the stands. Then the one in the last AB hits the wall facing the bullpen and caroms like a superball into the pen. Those bounces sure looked suspiciously lively to me. Considering they came off Papi's bat in the 105-110mph range it doesn't seem too outrageous to me. The second one caromed like that because of hitting the ledge between the padding and the upper part of the wall
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 23, 2016 7:18:53 GMT -5
Xander now leads the AL in batting average at .346, narrowly ahead of the second-place batter, who happens to be JBJ at .342. Papi is 4th at .329. Sox have 3 of the top 4 hitters in the AL, 4 of the top 11, and 6 of the top 22. If the entire team was a player, it would be in the top 20 in OPS in the AL.
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Post by sox fan in nc on May 23, 2016 8:31:10 GMT -5
5.2 innings, 5 hits, 2 ER for Porcello. Get this bum off my team. He out pitched the guy that some here want to sell the farm system to get. I'd at least sell the barn & corral to get him.
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Post by jrffam05 on May 23, 2016 11:13:21 GMT -5
Xander now leads the AL in batting average at .346, narrowly ahead of the second-place batter, who happens to be JBJ at .342. Papi is 4th at .329. Sox have 3 of the top 4 hitters in the AL, 4 of the top 11, and 6 of the top 22. If the entire team was a player, it would be in the top 20 in OPS in the AL. JBJ also leads the AL in OBP, and Ortiz leads in ISO, Slugging, OPS, wRC+ and wOBA
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 23, 2016 11:40:19 GMT -5
The Red Sox are clearly going to cool off at some point, but, let's do a quick comparison of their current triple slash with that historic 2003 team:
Today: 296/359/485 OPS: 844 2003: 289/360/491 OPS: 851
Considering the different offensive environment, that's amazing.
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 23, 2016 11:42:13 GMT -5
If the team is going to keep this up, it may be easier to list what the Sox and their players don't lead the league in.
Add: It was mentioned at the beginning of the season that MLB wanted to find some way to up the offense. That has to be playing some part in this. Someone mentioned yesterday that because Ortiz' velocity numbers off the bat were so high, it had to be him and not the offensive environment. To the contrary, if the ball has been juiced that's exactly what you'd expect: a greater amount of the force at contact being transformed to kinetic energy resulting in a higher initial velocity. The equation for that energy is (1/2)mv2. That m, the mass of the ball, hasn't changed so it has to be the velocity (v) that reflects the greater amount of energy transfer.
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Post by templeusox on May 23, 2016 11:44:59 GMT -5
The Red Sox are clearly going to cool off at some point, but, let's do a quick comparison of their current triple slash with that historic 2003 team: Today: 296/359/485 OPS: 844 2003: 289/360/491 OPS: 851 Considering the different offensive environment, that's amazing. 2003 Red Sox: 120 WRC+ (next best was 115) 2016 Red Sox: 128 WRC+ (next best is 118)
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Post by Oregon Norm on May 23, 2016 11:57:53 GMT -5
The Red Sox are clearly going to cool off at some point, but, let's do a quick comparison of their current triple slash with that historic 2003 team: Today: 296/359/485 OPS: 844 2003: 289/360/491 OPS: 851 Considering the different offensive environment, that's amazing. 2003 Red Sox: 120 WRC+ (next best was 115) 2016 Red Sox: 128 WRC+ (next best is 118) That is really telling, a 4% difference back in 2003, and a 9% difference here in 2016, more than twice as great between the top two teams.
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Post by templeusox on May 23, 2016 12:05:03 GMT -5
JBJ, Mookie, Ortiz and Xander are all in the Top 20 in WAR.
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Post by jrffam05 on May 23, 2016 12:09:08 GMT -5
JBJ, Mookie, Ortiz and Xander are all in the Top 20 in WAR. Shaw is also 24th, that is 5 players in top 25 for MLB position players. I was actually adding that to my last post when my computer BSOD. My computer must have found that to much to process.
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Post by brianthetaoist on May 23, 2016 13:11:23 GMT -5
The Red Sox are clearly going to cool off at some point, but, let's do a quick comparison of their current triple slash with that historic 2003 team: Today: 296/359/485 OPS: 844 2003: 289/360/491 OPS: 851 Considering the different offensive environment, that's amazing. 2003 Red Sox: 120 WRC+ (next best was 115) 2016 Red Sox: 128 WRC+ (next best is 118) Yeah, I was gonna add that to my post, but I am too lazy (and busy) to look it up. By the way, it's amazing how many of the top offensive teams are in the NL right now. For a long time, the AL was clearly better, but I think that's not true anymore. We'll see how the interleague numbers play out, but the top of baseball seems to have more NL teams than AL teams.
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Post by tjb21 on May 23, 2016 14:19:27 GMT -5
This year has been fun.
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Post by ericmvan on May 23, 2016 16:52:34 GMT -5
2003 Red Sox: 120 WRC+ (next best was 115) 2016 Red Sox: 128 WRC+ (next best is 118) Yeah, I was gonna add that to my post, but I am too lazy (and busy) to look it up. By the way, it's amazing how many of the top offensive teams are in the NL right now. For a long time, the AL was clearly better, but I think that's not true anymore. We'll see how the interleague numbers play out, but the top of baseball seems to have more NL teams than AL teams. For a while this year the NL was cleaning the AL's clock in interleague play. It peaked at the equivalent of 8+ wins per 162 games, which is opposite last year (i.e, 81 wins in one league = 89 in the other.) Right now it's down to a 2.2 win edge. But the NL's lack of parity has not changed. So, the NL has 3 of the 4 best clubs in baseball (Cubs, Nats, Red Sox, Cardinals*) and 7 of the top 11, but three of the four worst (Reds, Twins, Braves, Brewers). *Already 5.8 games below their BaseRuns Pythagorean, but that's nor predictive.
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2016 17:03:51 GMT -5
Hard to believe the Phillies are 6 games over .500 with a team 73 wRC+. I predict they have the worst record in baseball for the rest of the season.
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Post by dnfl333 on May 23, 2016 17:34:24 GMT -5
Hard to believe the Phillies are 6 games over .500 with a team 73 wRC+. I predict they have the worst record in baseball for the rest of the season. Rubens gone
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Post by jimed14 on May 23, 2016 17:36:23 GMT -5
Hard to believe the Phillies are 6 games over .500 with a team 73 wRC+. I predict they have the worst record in baseball for the rest of the season. Rubens gone They aren't anywhere close to good yet.
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Post by ericmvan on May 23, 2016 19:50:20 GMT -5
Hard to believe the Phillies are 6 games over .500 with a team 73 wRC+. I predict they have the worst record in baseball for the rest of the season. They don't seem as bad as the Reds, Twins, Braves, or Brewers. Maybe the A's and Angels, too. But they've had the 3rd easiest schedule (after the Mariners and Mets), 1.1 wins, and, more importantly, have outperformed their BaseRuns by 6.9 wins. They're 15-3 in one-run or extra inning games, including 12-1 in non-walk-offs.
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Post by bookiemetts on May 23, 2016 20:32:51 GMT -5
I can't really figure out Baltimore... Are they really this good? Chris Tillman has to fall off some right?
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