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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 26, 2017 20:37:46 GMT -5
Also with all the shoulder problems that Hanley is having, I'd feel like the Sox would be best served by having a guy like Selsky over the roster rather than Chris Young. The lack of versatility is going to kill the Sox from Young's side of things and Moreland might have to see at bats versus LHP because of it. Plus, if the Sox drop Young after spring training, they only owe him the first 30 days of his pro rated contract, I think. Or maybe they'd be on the hook for the full contract. I'm not sure how that rule works. If they could save money by dropping Young, they could save more money against the threshold this year and maybe promote Rusney if they need to. Young is a far superior hitter to Selsky and I'm a fan of Selsky. Granted I'm surprised they didn't have Young try out at 1st but he's not worth losing for a couple weeks of depth. Rutledge and Holt can help cover 1st if they really need to I can't disagree entirely with what you wrote, but I think you may be underestimating Selsky's hit tool a bit. I think both are comparable overall with the hit tool. Chris Young might be a whole lot better against LHP. Young might also slug better and have a lot more power too. From my vantage point, look at it this way- Rutledge and Selsky>Pablo and Rutledge (and Hanley wouldn't need to play the field ever again, which could be a plus in itself)
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 26, 2017 21:41:01 GMT -5
julian sheppard @jxsheppard @keithlaw You high on Eduardo Rodriguez coming in? #2ish still? keithlawVerified account @keithlaw 2h2 hours ago keithlaw Retweeted julian sheppard He's one of my breakout picks for 2017: klaw.me/2naL17u
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Post by Coreno on Mar 26, 2017 21:42:10 GMT -5
Is ST over yet...?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Mar 26, 2017 21:47:03 GMT -5
Hang in there... Coming to you from the great Northwest
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 27, 2017 6:58:05 GMT -5
Young is a far superior hitter to Selsky and I'm a fan of Selsky. Granted I'm surprised they didn't have Young try out at 1st but he's not worth losing for a couple weeks of depth. Rutledge and Holt can help cover 1st if they really need to I can't disagree entirely with what you wrote, but I think you may be underestimating Selsky's hit tool a bit. I think both are comparable overall with the hit tool. Chris Young might be a whole lot better against LHP. Young might also slug better and have a lot more power too. From my vantage point, look at it this way- Rutledge and Selsky>Pablo and Rutledge (and Hanley wouldn't need to play the field ever again, which could be a plus in itself) Young is also likely the DH vs. LHP if Hanley can play 1B. He has OPS'd .972 and .999 vs. LHP the last two seasons. Maybe you're overestimating Selsky, who has a total of 54 PAs in the majors at age 27.
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Post by michael on Mar 27, 2017 9:24:30 GMT -5
Young is a far superior hitter to Selsky and I'm a fan of Selsky. Granted I'm surprised they didn't have Young try out at 1st but he's not worth losing for a couple weeks of depth. Rutledge and Holt can help cover 1st if they really need to I can't disagree entirely with what you wrote, but I think you may be underestimating Selsky's hit tool a bit. I think both are comparable overall with the hit tool. Chris Young might be a whole lot better against LHP. Young might also slug better and have a lot more power too. From my vantage point, look at it this way- Rutledge and Selsky>Pablo and Rutledge (and Hanley wouldn't need to play the field ever again, which could be a plus in itself) So your comparison indicates that you'd drop Panda for Selsky?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 27, 2017 16:44:15 GMT -5
I can't disagree entirely with what you wrote, but I think you may be underestimating Selsky's hit tool a bit. I think both are comparable overall with the hit tool. Chris Young might be a whole lot better against LHP. Young might also slug better and have a lot more power too. From my vantage point, look at it this way- Rutledge and Selsky>Pablo and Rutledge (and Hanley wouldn't need to play the field ever again, which could be a plus in itself) Young is also likely the DH vs. LHP if Hanley can play 1B. He has OPS'd .972 and .999 vs. LHP the last two seasons. Maybe you're overestimating Selsky, who has a total of 54 PAs in the majors at age 27. Hanley hasn't played one inning at first base all spring. There's the problem. Young is probably better against LHP. Young isn't going to be replacing Moreland to start the season until at some point, Hanley is ready to take the field. Selsky would be.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 27, 2017 16:45:50 GMT -5
I can't disagree entirely with what you wrote, but I think you may be underestimating Selsky's hit tool a bit. I think both are comparable overall with the hit tool. Chris Young might be a whole lot better against LHP. Young might also slug better and have a lot more power too. From my vantage point, look at it this way- Rutledge and Selsky>Pablo and Rutledge (and Hanley wouldn't need to play the field ever again, which could be a plus in itself) So your comparison indicates that you'd drop Panda for Selsky? When the Sox are facing a LHP? Yes.
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Post by thursty on Mar 27, 2017 16:52:46 GMT -5
Thornburg scratched, will start season on DL Kelly yesterday walked bases full Mr. Elite throwing 93 mph fastballs Bullpen foreboding
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 27, 2017 20:08:01 GMT -5
Thornburg scratched, will start season on DL Kelly yesterday walked bases full Mr. Elite throwing 93 mph fastballs Bullpen foreboding Yeah now the earliest we can probably expect Thornburg back is around April 14th. Mid April. His whole area of concern has been the shoulder this spring, which is really ominous. I think the Sox are going to have to make a claim or trade by the end of spring training. I don't think Kyle Kendricks should crack the roster as a long reliever and I don't want to see Noe Ramirez filling in for these 10+ days. The Sox should be working the phones for that last roster spot for the bullpen. Hopefully it's a guy who can give them multiple innings.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 27, 2017 20:24:52 GMT -5
“During the pregame throwing program, he felt like there was some spasm that was taking place in the trap area,” Farrell said. “It wasn’t shoulder-related. So we scratched him from the outing here today. Sent him back early to gain some treatment, and he’s set to have further testing tomorrow.
“It’s hard to say right now he’d have enough frequency of outings and pitch count to build up and to be ready by next Monday. We haven’t made that determination yet. Tomorrow is going to hopefully give us more information on what we’re actually dealing with here. What the root cause to a spasm is, that I don’t know at this point.” fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2017/03/27/tyler-thornburg-expected-to-open-season-on-disabled-list/
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Post by jmei on Mar 27, 2017 21:10:16 GMT -5
Remember when folks were worried about their having too many pitchers? Why, Matt Barnes might have to open the season in AAA, they cried. Quaint times.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 27, 2017 22:57:04 GMT -5
Remember when folks were worried about their having too many pitchers? Why, Matt Barnes might have to open the season in AAA, they cried. Quaint times. I remember when people said that if everyone was healthy somebody would need to be in Pawtucket. Who exactly are your 'folks' ?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 28, 2017 1:13:32 GMT -5
Remember when folks were worried about their having too many pitchers? Why, Matt Barnes might have to open the season in AAA, they cried. Quaint times. I remember when people said that if everyone was healthy somebody would need to be in Pawtucket. Who exactly are your 'folks' ? Well I thought they should of optioned down Eduardo Rodriguez for the first month to keep his innings down, so I was guilty there.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 28, 2017 2:23:21 GMT -5
I remember when people said that if everyone was healthy somebody would need to be in Pawtucket. Who exactly are your 'folks' ? Well I thought they should of optioned down Eduardo Rodriguez for the first month to keep his innings down, so I was guilty there. Yes but that's a different reason than too much pitching that jmei is implying was poster's logic. ADD: I'm a proponent of the Buchholz trade and (was) also of giving Kelly another starter shot but neither of those had anything to do with 'worried about their having too many pitchers'.
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Post by soxfanatic on Mar 28, 2017 9:05:44 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton 4 min. Red Sox reassign Kyle Kendrick to minor-league camp. So Pomeranz is ready to go for the rotation.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Mar 28, 2017 11:38:38 GMT -5
Tim Britton @timbritton 4 min. Red Sox reassign Kyle Kendrick to minor-league camp. So Pomeranz is ready to go for the rotation. We have too much pitching.
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Post by nomar on Mar 28, 2017 11:51:55 GMT -5
When will John Henry learn to tell his GMs to stop trading for relievers? It's always terrible.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 28, 2017 12:00:07 GMT -5
Sandy Leon hit HRs from both sides of the plate in the same inning yesterday. Probably doesn't happen too often.
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Post by Coreno on Mar 28, 2017 15:11:51 GMT -5
Is major league camp essentially down to just the opening day roster, the NRI relievers, Marco, and Brentz? I could be wrong, but looking quickly, I think those are the only cuts left. That would be what, about 35 guys, if you include the P's that will likely start on the DL?
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 28, 2017 15:52:05 GMT -5
Right shoulder impingement for Thornburg, Peter Abraham tweeted. Out at least a month. Shoulders take forever. Get on the phones Dave Dombrowski and get another reliever.
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Post by humanbeingbean on Mar 28, 2017 15:57:38 GMT -5
Right shoulder impingement for Thornburg, Peter Abraham tweeted. Out at least a month. Shoulders take forever. Get on the phones Dave Dombrowski and get another reliever. Anything but trading for another reliever.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Mar 28, 2017 16:01:10 GMT -5
Right shoulder impingement for Thornburg, Peter Abraham tweeted. Out at least a month. Shoulders take forever. Get on the phones Dave Dombrowski and get another reliever. Anything but trading for another reliever. LOL, yeah I meant like a depth piece that can throw multiple innings preferably. Nothing worth a lot substantially in a trade.
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Post by thursty on Mar 28, 2017 18:04:37 GMT -5
Now Rutledge is hurt. No problem, just call up Dubon
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 28, 2017 18:35:53 GMT -5
Anything but trading for another reliever. LOL, yeah I meant like a depth piece that can throw multiple innings preferably. Nothing worth a lot substantially in a trade. They have plenty of them in AAA that have impressed Farrell. He said so the other day.
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