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Post by larrycook on Feb 26, 2017 1:43:05 GMT -5
Watched thornburg pitch for the first time ever today. His delivery had a good bit of effort to it and he could not hit his spot on pitches.
Let's hope for two things:
1.) his command gets better as spring training progresses. 2.) smith makes it back healthy and throwing good before thornburg's elbow pops.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Feb 26, 2017 4:14:45 GMT -5
Two quick thoughts: - Selsky is going to turn out to be a nice under the radar pickup, I think. He's got some versatility and has a reputation of being a high OBP guy. - Pablo is fairly hard to recognize with all the weight loss. I caught him at the plate today and at first thought it was Rusney Castillo. Definitely wouldn't have made that mistake last year. I could easily see Selsky being the guy that replaces Young on the bench when his contract is up after this year.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 26, 2017 6:19:40 GMT -5
Looking forward to finally watching baseball today. Took forever it seemed. I understand the commissioner is proposing changes in the calendar to shorten that. We might end up with 10 months in a year but that has to be approved by the player's union.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 26, 2017 6:32:57 GMT -5
ERod threw to hitters in the cage for the first time today.
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Post by costpet on Feb 26, 2017 8:18:13 GMT -5
Broadcast crew was awful. Trying to figure out something to say when nothing was happening. Pulling stuff out of their butts. I had to turn off the sound.
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Post by rookie13 on Feb 26, 2017 9:53:16 GMT -5
www.overthemonster.com/2017/2/25/14726638/sam-travis-will-middlebrooks-travis-shawSaw this article this morning. Maybe it's just me but I think the comparison here is nonsense. Travis isn't a power hitter, and one could argue the other guys aren't either, and he hasn't even played a game in the majors yet. How can you compare him to either of those guys? I feel like the author has this assumption just because the Sox haven't developed a 1B, recently, who had sustained success in the majors. Well, unless you count Rizzo.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 26, 2017 11:24:14 GMT -5
Two quick thoughts: - Selsky is going to turn out to be a nice under the radar pickup, I think. He's got some versatility and has a reputation of being a high OBP guy. - Pablo is fairly hard to recognize with all the weight loss. I caught him at the plate today and at first thought it was Rusney Castillo. Definitely wouldn't have made that mistake last year. I could easily see Selsky being the guy that replaces Young on the bench when his contract is up after this year. Jen McCaffrey@jcmccaffrey 1m1 minute ago When asked who's surprised him in camp so far this year, Farrell didn't hesitate saying outfielder Steve Selsky.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 26, 2017 11:41:02 GMT -5
www.overthemonster.com/2017/2/25/14726638/sam-travis-will-middlebrooks-travis-shawSaw this article this morning. Maybe it's just me but I think the comparison here is nonsense. Travis isn't a power hitter, and one could argue the other guys aren't either, and he hasn't even played a game in the majors yet. How can you compare him to either of those guys? I feel like the author has this assumption just because the Sox haven't developed a 1B, recently, who had sustained success in the majors. Well, unless you count Rizzo. Sometimes it seems that OTM suffers from having an article quota.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 26, 2017 11:45:52 GMT -5
I could easily see Selsky being the guy that replaces Young on the bench when his contract is up after this year. Jen McCaffrey@jcmccaffrey 1m1 minute ago When asked who's surprised him in camp so far this year, Farrell didn't hesitate saying outfielder Steve Selsky. It says on the 40 man page that he has 2 options, but I don't see how he could even have 1. He's been in AAA for 3 years.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 26, 2017 12:22:31 GMT -5
Jen McCaffrey@jcmccaffrey 6m6 minutes ago
Dombrowski, Romero and Wren are all here today to see Hector Velazquez.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Feb 26, 2017 13:12:52 GMT -5
Jen McCaffrey@jcmccaffrey 1m1 minute ago When asked who's surprised him in camp so far this year, Farrell didn't hesitate saying outfielder Steve Selsky. It says on the 40 man page that he has 2 options, but I don't see how he could even have 1. He's been in AAA for 3 years. My guess is that he wasn't on the Reds 40 man roster for most of those years. Don't need to use options if you're not on the 40 man roster.
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Post by mattpicard on Feb 26, 2017 14:19:06 GMT -5
It says on the 40 man page that he has 2 options, but I don't see how he could even have 1. He's been in AAA for 3 years. My guess is that he wasn't on the Reds 40 man roster for most of those years. Don't need to use options if you're not on the 40 man roster. Yep. He was first added to a 40-man last May with the Reds, and then went up and down a couple of times. See the link below -- MiLB.com player pages are good at tracking transaction history, and you can very easily see when players were added to a 40, optioned, etc. www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=592731#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALL
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Feb 26, 2017 14:41:48 GMT -5
My guess is that he wasn't on the Reds 40 man roster for most of those years. Don't need to use options if you're not on the 40 man roster. Yep. He was first added to a 40-man last May with the Reds, and then went up and down a couple of times. See the link below -- MiLB.com player pages are good at tracking transaction history, and you can very easily see when players were added to a 40, optioned, etc. www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=592731#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALLThanks for the info Matt. Always helpful.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Feb 26, 2017 14:51:12 GMT -5
Jen McCaffrey@jcmccaffrey 6m6 minutes ago Dombrowski, Romero and Wren are all here today to see Hector Velazquez. From what I saw out of Velazquez was a pitcher with two different fastballs. A four seem fastball that he needs to spot because he's not overpowering. He also has a sinking fastball from what I seen. His out pitch is that split change up he's got. He struck out all but one batter on it and he seems to have great command of that pitch. Plus potential pitch. Didn't see a breaking ball but he supposedly has a cutter and a slurve pitch also. Velazquez seems like a ground ball machine when he's going well. Good roster filler for the next 3-4 years. Very sneaky nice pickup.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Feb 26, 2017 15:34:26 GMT -5
Rafael Devers in at 3B for whoever wants to get a look at him. Smoked a ball to RF on a line drive catch.
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Post by jimed14 on Feb 26, 2017 16:02:24 GMT -5
My guess is that he wasn't on the Reds 40 man roster for most of those years. Don't need to use options if you're not on the 40 man roster. Yep. He was first added to a 40-man last May with the Reds, and then went up and down a couple of times. See the link below -- MiLB.com player pages are good at tracking transaction history, and you can very easily see when players were added to a 40, optioned, etc. www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=592731#/career/R/hitting/2017/ALLIt's so strange that he was never claimed in a Rule 5 draft especially after putting up a 138 wRC+ including a .386 OBP in AAA in 2015. I guess "Cincinnati Reds selected the contract of Steve Selsky from Louisville Bats." is "added to 40-man"? But not "OF Steve Selsky assigned to Cincinnati Reds"? DFA'ing a guy like that with options is pretty damn absurd.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Feb 26, 2017 16:26:59 GMT -5
Just one more note and I'll leave it to the rest of everyone to fill in the rest that needs to be said but Swihart looked good behind the plate today. Framed well it seemed, no past balls, no mental throwing errors to the pitcher, nothing to speak of at all. Just looked solid back there, of course it's only one game I suppose.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 26, 2017 19:02:01 GMT -5
Just one more note and I'll leave it to the rest of everyone to fill in the rest that needs to be said but Swihart looked good behind the plate today. Framed well it seemed, no past balls, no mental throwing errors to the pitcher, nothing to speak of at all. Just looked solid back there, of course it's only one game I suppose. Evan DrellichVerified account evandrellichFarrell on Swihart "We’re not going to take a three inning stint and project here’s our everyday catcher that’s got the ability to hit .300" That and he's the only one of the three with options.....
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Post by mattpicard on Feb 26, 2017 20:15:45 GMT -5
It's so strange that he was never claimed in a Rule 5 draft especially after putting up a 138 wRC+ including a .386 OBP in AAA in 2015. I guess "Cincinnati Reds selected the contract of Steve Selsky from Louisville Bats." is "added to 40-man"? But not "OF Steve Selsky assigned to Cincinnati Reds"?DFA'ing a guy like that with options is pretty damn absurd. Correct -- "selected/purchased the contract of" refers to adding someone to a 40-man in this context (sometimes you'll it when a team signs a player from a foreign/independent league). The "assigned to" is not indicative of the 40, but usually just what roster a player is placed on at any given time. For example, a minor league signing will then get "assigned to Portland Sea Dogs". Or in the example you gave, it's Selsky getting assigned to the Reds camp during Spring Training last year.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Feb 27, 2017 0:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by James Dunne on Feb 27, 2017 8:25:35 GMT -5
It's so strange that he was never claimed in a Rule 5 draft especially after putting up a 138 wRC+ including a .386 OBP in AAA in 2015. I guess "Cincinnati Reds selected the contract of Steve Selsky from Louisville Bats." is "added to 40-man"? But not "OF Steve Selsky assigned to Cincinnati Reds"? DFA'ing a guy like that with options is pretty damn absurd. His 2015 line came in only 202 plate appearances - he got hurt in June and missed the rest of the season. I'm not finding any articles from the 2015 Rule 5 season on him, but I'm wondering if he was still hurt and therefore a bit risky. But even healthy, at the time he was a 25-year-old corner outfielder with a good half-season OBP at Triple-A. His overall .283/.369/.425 Triple-A line is nice, but not "I can't believe he's still in the minors good." And then, in his cup of coffee he had only two walks - that .340 OBP included a .519 BABIP. All that said, I agree he was an odd choice to DFA. And given the Red Sox waiver claim position, equally odd that so many crummy teams let him pass. He's good insurance for the Red Sox, because Brentz might not sneak through waivers and there's a good chance he's worse than Selsky anyway.
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Post by thursty on Feb 27, 2017 20:11:15 GMT -5
I find it a bit incongruous that Xander has had nary a complaint playing 3B for the Netherlands after his 2014 bridling at the same from the club paying his freight
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Post by mattpicard on Feb 27, 2017 20:17:44 GMT -5
I find it a bit incongruous that Xander has had nary a complaint playing 3B for the Netherlands after his 2014 bridling at the same from the club paying his freight Well you shouldn't. He's just looking to play for his country in a quick tournament alongside two other good MLB shortstops, one of whom is the best defensive shortstop of this generation. And come on, it's not like he threw a fit in 2014. He had a right to be at least somewhat upset about how that situation transpired.
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Post by klostrophobic on Feb 28, 2017 10:41:26 GMT -5
I find it a bit incongruous that Xander has had nary a complaint playing 3B for the Netherlands after his 2014 bridling at the same from the club paying his freight One has a direct correlation with how much money he will make and the other is playing a few games for free for his country. As for Selsky it makes no sense to me at all how guys like that aren't more highly regarded and sought after. If he comes in and posts an 800 OPS and plays LF/1B fairly reasonably will it be that surprising given his statistical past?
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Post by Oregon Norm on Feb 28, 2017 10:58:20 GMT -5
Not at all, but he's not the first player to get lost in the shuffle. All it takes is bum luck with ill-timed injuries or a relatively clueless FO that doesn't know how to manage a roster. He's had both.
A few years back, Hatfield was rightfully decrying the lack of outfield options in the minors. Guys like Selsky are exactly the type of player a team should have stashed away.
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