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Post by James Dunne on May 9, 2017 7:58:44 GMT -5
5/9 Red Sox (LHP Drew Pomeranz 3-1, 4.00, 27.0 IP, 34K:9BB) @ Brewers (RHP Wily Peralta 4-2, 4.88, 31.1 IP, 27K:13BB) 7:40 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/10 Red Sox (RHP Kyle Kendrick 0-1, 13.50, 4.0 IP, 2BB:1K) @ Brewers (RHP Chase Anderson 2-0, 2.86, 34.2 IP, 30K:12BB) 8:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI 5/11 Red Sox (LHP Eduardo Rodriguez 1-1, 3.07, 29.1 IP, 37K:15BB) @ Brewers (RHP Jimmy Nelson 1-2, 4.83, 31.2 IP, 25K:10BB) 1:10 pm ET, NESN/WEEI MLB StandingsRed Sox Hitting StatsRed Sox Pitching StatsMLB ScoreboardMLB TransactionsWeatherSeries Thread Disclaimer: The SoxProspects Moderators will be somewhat liberal in policing the Red Sox "Series" Threads. Some of the Ground Rules are applied loosely in here, as we understand that there is a tendency to want to react (or overreact) to every play of a Sox game with one line reactionary posts. Those posts are okay in the Red Sox Series threads to a point - we certainly appreciate the passion. Just try not to overdo it, and try to maintain some semblance of reason. In addition, please don't let those type of posts spill over to other more substantive threads, where they may be deleted. -The Management
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Post by James Dunne on May 9, 2017 8:16:40 GMT -5
Interested to see what kind of leash Kendrick gets. He's essentially in the majors because he had a good spring training - he's been bad for years and he wasn't very good for Pawtucket. It looks like Price's timetable would give Kendrick (or more specifically the fifth starter spot) three starts after Wednesday. Maybe one fewer because they are off the next two Mondays and could skip the fifth spot on 5/16 while keeping everyone else on four days rest. I'm pretty convinced that Johnson is a superior pitcher to Kendrick, and it's just sort of the cutoff where you start to consider when it makes sense to cut into the depth. At two starts I probably roll with Kendrick. At three or more I really want the better pitcher in there.
Another option would be to keep Kendrick as the long reliever/mop-up guy to keep him in the organization and either option Taylor or DFA Abad.
Hopefully Kendrick pitches better than I expect him to and makes it a non-issue.
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Post by huskies15 on May 9, 2017 8:52:37 GMT -5
With the ability to skip the 5th guy in the coming weeks, I expect we'll only be seeing Kendrick until Price is back.
I'd say his leash is two more starts. If he continues to be bad through 2 more starts I would say he'd be shown the door.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 9, 2017 10:15:56 GMT -5
With the ability to skip the 5th guy in the coming weeks, I expect we'll only be seeing Kendrick until Price is back. I'd say his leash is two more starts. If he continues to be bad through 2 more starts I would say he'd be shown the door. Well, yeah. What would the other option be when Price comes back? Six-man rotation?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on May 9, 2017 10:46:18 GMT -5
Kendrick's last start before the call-up was good (which is probably why he is here) so, there's hope. On the other hand, there was hope for Wright.
Velazquez has 17 consecutive shutout innings going but that would mean we would have to lose somebody, Kendrick for example.
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Post by sibbysisti on May 9, 2017 13:39:34 GMT -5
I see no reason Rodriguez couldn't have been scheduled for Wednesday. He would have had his regular four days rest. So would Porcello to follow him. This way they could have avoided Kendrick.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on May 9, 2017 14:02:20 GMT -5
I see no reason Rodriguez couldn't have been scheduled for Wednesday. He would have had his regular four days rest. So would Porcello to follow him. This way they could have avoided Kendrick. I guess, but you've got six games in a row - you're throwing him at SOME point before the next off day - it's not like they can go a month without a fifth starter. All you're doing is pushing him back into the Rays series and making him go 9 days without pitching, which could throw him off, while keeping your other four starters from benefitting from the extra day off. When you have concerns about Rodriguez's workload, Pomeranz's elbow, and, well, pitching being pitching, I'm down with letting the starters get the extra days off than on skipping Kendrick a bunch of times and throwing him out of a rhythm. If he gets bombed a couple more times, then you can use the off days to move the open rotation spot to Johnson or Velazquez or whoever you want to come up instead on regular rest.
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Post by James Dunne on May 9, 2017 14:06:27 GMT -5
I see no reason Rodriguez couldn't have been scheduled for Wednesday. He would have had his regular four days rest. So would Porcello to follow him. This way they could have avoided Kendrick. I wouldn't be surprised if they do that in one of the next couple turns through the rotation. If they skipped Kendrick here they'd have to use him Saturday in a division game. The best time to skip him would probably be his scheduled 5/16 start - everyone would just move up a day to their regular rest, and Kendrick (or whoever they have at #5) slides in 5/20 at Oakland.
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Post by DesignatedKyle on May 9, 2017 14:55:42 GMT -5
JBJ benched for Young again.
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Post by jimed14 on May 9, 2017 15:00:25 GMT -5
JBJ benched for Young again. Has there been any mention of Hanley playing 1B ever again so that Moreland can get a day off? And then Young can be the DH.
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Post by telluricrook on May 9, 2017 15:18:04 GMT -5
They cant get Hanley angry and you know that. Hanley needs to be kept happy even Chris Sale keeps saying nice things about him on purpose.
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Post by slam761 on May 9, 2017 15:58:15 GMT -5
JBJ benched for Young again. Has there been any mention of Hanley playing 1B ever again so that Moreland can get a day off? And then Young can be the DH. Didn't they already say Hanley is playing 1B this series?
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 9, 2017 16:49:34 GMT -5
JBJ benched for Young again. JBJ benched for Young again. Has there been any mention of Hanley playing 1B ever again so that Moreland can get a day off? And then Young can be the DH. It is most surprising because JF is losing a Right v Lefty matchup with a guy who isn't that good on defense and hasn't hit righties all that well over the years,. He is hot right now, JBJ appears to be in the doghouse, it is a gamble. At least he is available for the late game pinch hit homerun, if needed.
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Post by jimed14 on May 9, 2017 17:27:22 GMT -5
JBJ benched for Young again. Has there been any mention of Hanley playing 1B ever again so that Moreland can get a day off? And then Young can be the DH. It is most surprising because JF is losing a Right v Lefty matchup with a guy who isn't that good on defense and hasn't hit righties all that well over the years,. He is hot right now, JBJ appears to be in the doghouse, it is a gamble. At least he is available for the late game pinch hit homerun, if needed. JF let Marrero hit with the bases loaded with JBJ on the bench, so he's either hurt or extremely in the dog house.
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Post by wesmantooth on May 9, 2017 18:44:07 GMT -5
What. A. Laser.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 9, 2017 19:00:16 GMT -5
I mean Shaw will be out for serious revenge this series, I believe. Even if he feels fortunate to be playing every day and not looking over his shoulder, he has to be motivated to stick it to the Sox.
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 9, 2017 19:05:09 GMT -5
Oh dear.
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Post by ajs1994 on May 9, 2017 19:09:01 GMT -5
Brutal 1st for Pomeranz. Leaving everything over the middle. Will be interested to see if he ever starts incorporating the cutter he used as a viable third pitch last year, or if he's back to being a straight two pitch guy.
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Post by wesmantooth on May 9, 2017 19:09:20 GMT -5
Good thing they got Kendrick going tomorrow
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Post by cotuitfan on May 9, 2017 19:09:24 GMT -5
Great - I can go back to Comey coverage now
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 9, 2017 19:15:49 GMT -5
I would say Pomeranz' value peaked at the All-Star game last year. So mediocre ever since.
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Post by thursty on May 9, 2017 19:20:39 GMT -5
Guys, he's hurt; he was sitting at 90 in his previous start as well. He doesn't have the stuff to get away with it
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Post by jerrygarciaparra on May 9, 2017 19:32:53 GMT -5
With hindsight the Pomeranz trade could end up being the biggest flop of all of DD's moves. Preller is a worm.
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Post by wcp3 on May 9, 2017 19:33:39 GMT -5
Drew Pomeranz: not a good pitcher.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on May 9, 2017 19:36:03 GMT -5
Guys, he's hurt; he was sitting at 90 in his previous start as well. He doesn't have the stuff to get away with it You're probably correct, but then again he has an extensive injury history and had some serious red flags on his medicals when they got him last season. He was supposed to be some sort of Mike Boddicker acquisition, but instead he played out more like a Jake Peavy acquisition. I didn't mind the Sox getting Peavy for Iglesias - Bogaerts was clearly a better SS option, but the Sox didn't acquire Pomeranz for "surplus".
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