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Post by patford on Sept 23, 2018 20:33:07 GMT -5
Didi Gregorius with cartilage tear in his (I think) left wrist. He says he might try to play through it, but he may be done for the year. Tough luck for the Yankees, but if he's out, it sure weakens them, and makes one wonder who you'd really want to win an A's/Yankees play-in game. Trying to play through a cartilage tear in the wrist would be among the stupidest things a baseball player could try to do. I could see a cortisone shot and trying to play if it was game 7 of the WS but that's about it.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 25, 2018 14:15:43 GMT -5
It felt weird that the Lookouts weren't a Reds affiliate for a few years.
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Post by gerry on Sept 25, 2018 14:40:20 GMT -5
Didi Gregorius with cartilage tear in his (I think) left wrist. He says he might try to play through it, but he may be done for the year. Tough luck for the Yankees, but if he's out, it sure weakens them, and makes one wonder who you'd really want to win an A's/Yankees play-in game. Trying to play through a cartilage tear in the wrist would be among the stupidest things a baseball player could try to do. I could see a cortisone shot and trying to play if it was game 7 of the WS but that's about it. Don’t know about torn cartilege in a wrist, but assume it is similar to that of a knee. I played thru the latter and it messed my knee up for life. The potential for exacerbating the injury just from swinging the bat might be damaging long term, no matter the quality of medical care afterwards. Perhaps repair is equally possible despite the extent of the tear, but the wrist is so fragile and so essential to the game. I hope he isn’t macho about it.
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Post by mobaz on Sept 28, 2018 10:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 29, 2018 17:01:59 GMT -5
Cardinals beating the Cubs today was the best thing imaginable for the pennant race.
With the Dodgers and Giants tied 5-5 after 5 (Kersahw game up 2 in the 5th), I have the current coin-flip odds as:
12.9% two play-in game 163's on Monday 46.1% one play-in game 41.0% no play-in game
There's a 3 in 8 chance of a game 163 to decide which NL Central team gets first seed in the NL playoffs, and which hosts the Dodgers or Cardinals for the W/C. That's the biggest imaginable importance for a single game between two playoff-bound teams.
There's an 11 of 32 chance of either a play-in game to decide between the NL West champ and 2nd WC, or to determine the 2nd WC.
An LA win today clinches a playoff spot and eliminates the Cardinals. If they lose and the Rockies win, the Rockies clinch the division. Either way, there are still play-in possibilities left.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Sept 29, 2018 20:27:34 GMT -5
Heaven forbid it will have meaning but a win today or tomorrow guarantees Houston as second seed vs the Yankees.
Edit: Houston won the first game of a double header. 2nd seed.
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 29, 2018 21:05:12 GMT -5
Jeter. He traded away Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna, and Gordon because he thought he could not compete with them.
I give it 2 years before he is run out of town
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 29, 2018 23:21:30 GMT -5
Cardinals beating the Cubs today was the best thing imaginable for the pennant race.
With the Dodgers and Giants tied 5-5 after 5 (Kersahw game up 2 in the 5th), I have the current coin-flip odds as:
12.9% 25.0% two play-in game 163's on Monday
46.1% 50.00% one play-in game
41.0% 25.0% no play-in game
There's a 3 in 8 chance of a game 163 to decide which NL Central team gets first seed in the NL playoffs, and which hosts the Dodgers or Cardinals for the W/C. That's the biggest imaginable importance for a single game between two playoff-bound teams.
There's an 11 of 32 chance of either a play-in game to decide between the NL West champ and 2nd WC, or to determine the 2nd WC.
An LA win today clinches a playoff spot and eliminates the Cardinals. If they lose and the Rockies win, the Rockies clinch the division. Either way, there are still play-in possibilities left.
When was the last time we went into the final day of the season with two division ties? Ever? *
LA winning and eliminating the Cardinals was a bit of a let down, but the Rockies losing (down 12-2 going into the bottom of the 9th right now) and the Brewers winning make for a terrific Sunday and, more likely than not, baseball on Monday. Cubs and Dodgers have the home fields.
Tied going into final day:
2012, Oak (W) and Tex (L). Rangers a WC.
2010, TB (W) and NYY (L). Yankees the WC.
2009, Min (W) and Det (W); Min W play-in; Tigers went home.
2008, ChW (W) and Min (L). Twins went home.
2007, Phi (W) and NYM (L). Mets went home.
(The West the same year had Ari, SD 1 back, and Col 2 back; the Rockies alone won and then of course beat the Padres in a WC play-in.) 2006, Min (W) and Det (L). Tigers the WC.
2006 SD (W) and LAD (W). Not quite the same as the Padres were awarded the division via the tiebreaker. 1999, Hou (W) and Cin (L). The Mets won a walk-off to tie the Reds for the WC and beat them in a play-in. 1996, SD (W) and LAD (L). Dodgers the WC.
That's it for the 6-division era. Strange that we saw it 7 times in 7 years and then had a 5 year drought. Also very strange that both teams won or loss just twice in 9 times.
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Post by manfred on Sept 30, 2018 14:14:47 GMT -5
Ok, I hope this isn’t cruel, but for all the big accomplishments this season, nothing — and I mean nothing, not Mookie, not deGrom — matches the wonder of Chris Davis. We have been privileged to see the worst season ever. Incredible.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 30, 2018 17:46:43 GMT -5
And Khris Davis, who hit exactly .247 for the fourth consecutive season.
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Post by DesignatedForAssignment on Sept 30, 2018 18:09:50 GMT -5
Cleve won today, giving them WS homefield over COL & LA. If game 163 on Mon counts in Homefield, then West champ beats out the Indians.
Not sure
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Post by ericmvan on Sept 30, 2018 18:40:33 GMT -5
Cleve won today, giving them WS homefield over COL & LA. If game 163 on Mon counts in Homefield, then West champ beats out the Indians. Not sure It absolutely counts; the NL West winner would have WS home field over the Indians.
Justice here: going into the final weekend, the Rockies' schedule had been 7.2 games tougher than the Indians', and the Dodgers had been 6.8.
The NL East was the only other division where the Indians would have finished higher than 3rd.
Meanwhile, the two play-in games have an extra bonus: Christian Yelich wins the Triple Crown with 1 HR and 2 RBI. That could happen in the first two pitches of the day.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 6, 2018 8:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by rjp313jr on Oct 6, 2018 9:15:30 GMT -5
If this happens then the Red Sox need to flex their financial muscles and over pay for this guy to get a top talent in their system. Assuming there’s not a huge injury concern.
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Post by jimed14 on Oct 6, 2018 11:23:37 GMT -5
How the hell does that happen? Seems like a pretty easy thing to prove either way. Why wouldn't a team submit a written offer of at least 40% of slot? Either that written offer exists, or the pick is lost IMO. And if they start down the verbal offer he said/he said crap, they're still complete morons and don't deserve the pick anyway.
It sounds like Boras shenanigans.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Oct 7, 2018 15:50:39 GMT -5
How the hell does that happen? Seems like a pretty easy thing to prove either way. Why wouldn't a team submit a written offer of at least 40% of slot? Either that written offer exists, or the pick is lost IMO. And if they start down the verbal offer he said/he said crap, they're still complete morons and don't deserve the pick anyway. It sounds like Boras shenanigans. My guess is that Boras is using this as a way to protest the current system, essentially. Consider the timing of this happening during the playoffs. As you said, it'd be pretty easy to prove whether or not you made that offer. Rosenthal article is behind the Athletic paywall. I haven't ponied up (I probably should, for McCaffrey and Jennings alone), but everything I've heard is it alludes to the fact he's unlikely to win. Even if he were declared a free agent, I think his signing bonus would count toward a team's draft cap, no? He'd be a UDFA, and those guys are treated like day 3 guys for purposes of the draft cap. I think the issue also is that he's deciding between pitching for Mississippi State or a Florida juco. You'd think if he wins the grievance, he pitches at MSU and gets some team to commit some of next year's draft cap to him or something.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 9, 2018 0:39:43 GMT -5
How the hell does that happen? Seems like a pretty easy thing to prove either way. Why wouldn't a team submit a written offer of at least 40% of slot? Either that written offer exists, or the pick is lost IMO. And if they start down the verbal offer he said/he said crap, they're still complete morons and don't deserve the pick anyway. It sounds like Boras shenanigans. My guess is that Boras is using this as a way to protest the current system, essentially. Consider the timing of this happening during the playoffs. As you said, it'd be pretty easy to prove whether or not you made that offer. Rosenthal article is behind the Athletic paywall. I haven't ponied up (I probably should, for McCaffrey and Jennings alone), but everything I've heard is it alludes to the fact he's unlikely to win. Even if he were declared a free agent, I think his signing bonus would count toward a team's draft cap, no? He'd be a UDFA, and those guys are treated like day 3 guys for purposes of the draft cap. I think the issue also is that he's deciding between pitching for Mississippi State or a Florida juco. You'd think if he wins the grievance, he pitches at MSU and gets some team to commit some of next year's draft cap to him or something. That wouldn't make sense because you would pretty much be screwing any player in that position. No team is going to have any kind of reasonable money left over. I'm guessing unrestricted free agent with no draft money associated.
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 10, 2018 12:42:29 GMT -5
I thought you couldn't make acquisitions during the playoffs or is that just a world series thing?
Anyways, Brad Ziegler has also retired at age 39.
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Post by James Dunne on Oct 10, 2018 20:09:51 GMT -5
That seems like a decent value buy for the Nats.
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Post by telson13 on Oct 11, 2018 1:12:12 GMT -5
This is *very* interesting. Without going too far down the rabbit hole, a couple of things stood out to me. 1) an agent change to Boras right after the non-sign. That strikes me as an obvious money-grab. 2) There’s just NO WAY, in my mind, that Atlanta would go to, say, 39.5% (or even 35%, or whatever), intentionally. A 9th-overall pick is just WAY too valuable to haggle it out lowballing by $100k or even probably $500k. I have a hard time thinking, barring total catastrophic injury, that they would risk losing that pick. And I’d think news of catastrophic injury would’ve leaked. All of which points to one of two scenarios to me: 1) a Carlton-Fisk style clerical/logistical error in delivering and *documenting* a compensation-worthy offer on the Braves’ part, that gave Stewart a viable out, or 2) a monumentally stupid arithmetic error either in calculating the offer based on the FULL slot allotment. I suppose 3) (kind of a subset/combo of both) would be a similarly stupid lowball counteroffer that was well under the 40% required after which Stewart’s side cut off negotiation and after which the Braves failed to address their clerical/arithmetic issues. It’s certainly possible that the Braves made a verbal offer that Stewart is now denying in order to get a big payday, but that still falls back on ATL for not having proof of a documented qualifying offer. And tbh, I don’t really blame Stewart regardless. Idk if I’d consider that case “scrupulous,” but I have a hard time thinking he’s trying anything outside the realm of what’s viable by the CBA. Very, very bizarre.
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Post by telson13 on Oct 11, 2018 1:22:50 GMT -5
Also: if Stewart becomes a FA, the Sox need to pounce. They’ve had a generally good relationship with Boras, they have a real talent need, it’s got no effect on the payroll, and they have a winning team and an organization that has the financial might to retain and pay its players well. Yeah, he probably goes for top $, and as a HS pitcher he’s a terrible gamble value-wise, but he moves the needle a fair amount for a team that needs to move its minor league needle more than a fair amount. His addition certainly moves the Sox from back-end much closer to mid-pack. And they’re short on high-end arms. His development timeframe also jibes real well with their financial situation.
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Post by telson13 on Oct 11, 2018 1:25:22 GMT -5
How the hell does that happen? Seems like a pretty easy thing to prove either way. Why wouldn't a team submit a written offer of at least 40% of slot? Either that written offer exists, or the pick is lost IMO. And if they start down the verbal offer he said/he said crap, they're still complete morons and don't deserve the pick anyway. It sounds like Boras shenanigans. My guess is that Boras is using this as a way to protest the current system, essentially. Consider the timing of this happening during the playoffs. As you said, it'd be pretty easy to prove whether or not you made that offer. Rosenthal article is behind the Athletic paywall. I haven't ponied up (I probably should, for McCaffrey and Jennings alone), but everything I've heard is it alludes to the fact he's unlikely to win. Even if he were declared a free agent, I think his signing bonus would count toward a team's draft cap, no? He'd be a UDFA, and those guys are treated like day 3 guys for purposes of the draft cap. I think the issue also is that he's deciding between pitching for Mississippi State or a Florida juco. You'd think if he wins the grievance, he pitches at MSU and gets some team to commit some of next year's draft cap to him or something. Ah, excellent points. Very curious to see this play out. I’d completely (and naively) missed the system-protest angle.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 11, 2018 6:31:10 GMT -5
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Post by pedrofanforever45 on Oct 11, 2018 6:34:42 GMT -5
Scares me that Mookie might do the same and follow in Bryant's footsteps. Mookie has been paying attention to the market diligently and tried to beat Bryant's arbitration record last offseason (in the first year of arbitration) with his arbitration number proposal.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Oct 11, 2018 6:51:46 GMT -5
I think that after last off season, this off season will define the future for top baseball salaries. If the players that opt out don't get anywhere near what they have now and if Harper and Machado don't get anywhere near the numbers that have been thrown around for years and if the rest get the same as last year, it will definitely impact players thoughts on the future.
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