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Post by voiceofreason on Dec 16, 2019 20:39:24 GMT -5
I was just having some fun myself, dmaine seems like he can take a joke in my experience anyways. Sometimes I think we could use some more levity here, by and large everything is fine compared to other sites though.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 16, 2019 21:37:03 GMT -5
I was just having some fun myself, dmaine seems like he can take a joke in my experience anyways. Sometimes I think we could use some more levity here, by and large everything is fine compared to other sites though.
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Post by dd on Dec 17, 2019 14:32:10 GMT -5
I was just having some fun myself, dmaine seems like he can take a joke in my experience anyways. Sometimes I think we could use some more levity here, by and large everything is fine compared to other sites though. Thank you for posting that. I literally LOL'd.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Dec 17, 2019 15:50:05 GMT -5
I saw that as a retweet from someone I follow but it brought back a lot of memories. I was initially a Boston Braves fan and it took a lot longer for the Yankees to become my most hated team over the Dodgers than it did for the Sox to win me over after the move.
Durocher is one of my all time favorite managers, he had some epic umpire arguments. One story that I remember (but didn't see) involved a game in which the Giants, who he was managing, were losing substantially in the early going. It was raining and Durocher asked the umps to call the game. They didn't so, next time he did a substitution, he came out wearing a Maine fisherman's rain coat and hat and carrying a lantern. I have no idea where he got the gear mid game but it was epic. Almost as epic as Beltre moving the on deck circle.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Dec 17, 2019 15:57:45 GMT -5
I saw that as a retweet from someone I follow but it brought back a lot of memories. I was initially a Boston Braves fan and it took a lot longer for the Yankees to become my most hated team over the Dodgers than it did for the Sox to win me over after the move. Durocher is one of my all time favorite managers, he had some epic umpire arguments. One story that I remember (but didn't see) involved a game in which the Giants, who he was managing, were losing substantially in the early going. It was raining and Durocher asked the umps to call the game. They didn't so, next time he did a substitution, he came out wearing a Maine fisherman's rain coat and hat and carrying a lantern. I have no idea where he got the gear mid game but it was epic. Almost as epic as Beltre moving the on deck circle. My seven year old watched that clip and laughed himself silly. Thanks!
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 6, 2020 8:18:57 GMT -5
Time to get to work Bloom, Vacation/Holidays are over. A couple of nice players have been added to the team in Peraza & Perez and some AAA depth but now it’s time to get to work & fill in the missing pieces with players to make this team a contender.
Rotation LH Chris Sale LH David Price RH Nathan Eovaldi LH Eduardo Rodriguez SP Bullpen RH Brandon Workman RH Matt Barnes LH Darwinzon Hernandez LH Josh Taylor LH Martin Perez RH Ryan Brasier RH Marcus Walden RH Heath Hembree Lineup C Christian Vazquez 1B 2B 3B Rafael Devers SS Xander Bogaerts LF Andrew Benintendi CF Jackie Bradley JR RF Mookie Betts DH JD Martinez Bench C Kevin Plawecki UTL Jose Peraza IF Michael Chavis OF
Now I know some of you out there are going to hop on me & say Perez is a SP, Chavis & Peraza are starters, trades to get under the cap are going to happen, but I’m telling you, if the Red Sox want to contend for a playoff spot, this is the way the team stands as of today, & the team needs these open spots filled with quality MLB players to contend & Ownership & Bloom & company need to get it done.
Now I understand there’s lot’s of ways to get that done but, I like all the pieces that are in place right now the way I have them listed & hope the holes get filled without any subtractions & the team contends.
So, what’s it gonna be Bloom...Contenders or Pretenders?
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Post by jimed14 on Jan 6, 2020 13:54:26 GMT -5
It's not up to Bloom. It's up to Henry.
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Post by Oregon Norm on Jan 6, 2020 14:05:00 GMT -5
How about if we judge him by the holes he's filled, one position at a time? Perez is the 5th starter by the way. I think that's quite clear. Why did you put him in the pen?
They've got their backup catcher and the utility guy as you point out. But you left off Mazza. He may barely register above the horizon at this point, but he is a warm body for the pen. A lot of this will depend on if Price is traded. That should take them quite near to their target, but it will leave the team without a starter. Again, I'm willing to cut the guy some slack. He's doing what he was hired to do: get the roster built up, and get the salary pushed down.
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Post by p23w on Jan 6, 2020 17:54:06 GMT -5
How about if we judge him by the holes he's filled, one position at a time? Perez is the 5th starter by the way. I think that's quite clear. Why did you put him in the pen? I know you cannot judge Bloom until the season is underway. But DAMN, watching every team in the division improve is frustrating. They've got their backup catcher and the utility guy as you point out. But you left off Mazza. He may barely register above the horizon at this point, but he is a warm body for the pen. A lot of this will depend on if Price is traded. That should take them quite near to their target, but it will leave the team without a starter. Again, I'm willing to cut the guy some slack. He's doing what he was hired to do: get the roster built up, and get the salary pushed down. A lot will depend on the health of pitching staff. Not much room for Cora or the front office to make moves. This is shaping up to be a mid to low expectation season. (82-90 wins).
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 7, 2020 4:21:03 GMT -5
How about if we judge him by the holes he's filled, one position at a time? Perez is the 5th starter by the way. I think that's quite clear. Why did you put him in the pen? They've got their backup catcher and the utility guy as you point out. But you left off Mazza. He may barely register above the horizon at this point, but he is a warm body for the pen. A lot of this will depend on if Price is traded. That should take them quite near to their target, but it will leave the team without a starter. Again, I'm willing to cut the guy some slack. He's doing what he was hired to do: get the roster built up, and get the salary pushed down. How about if we judge him by the holes he's filled, one position at a time? I am, and I’m unimpressed. Why did you put him in the pen? Because for this team to contend that’s where he needs to be, as the 6th SP/Long Man, an upgrade over Johnson/Velazquez. The 13th pitcher/26th man on the roster. Mazza, he is a warm body for the pen. Really? C’mon He's doing what he was hired to do: get the roster built up, and get the salary pushed down. He’s done neither Not only is the team as currently constructed a pretender but I believe Bloom may be as well. Time will tell.
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 7, 2020 4:46:11 GMT -5
LOL
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Post by dirtywater43 on Jan 7, 2020 5:36:17 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 7, 2020 5:47:48 GMT -5
He's entertaining at the minimum. Nothing dull about dmaneah. I'd probably have a good time kicking back and having a few brews with him.
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Post by dmaineah on Jan 14, 2020 5:59:20 GMT -5
I think Bloom is pretty much done (other then possibly moving Pedroia to the 60 day IL & signing a back up OF) this is this years 40 man roster to start the season;
Active (26)
Rotation LH Chris Sale LH David Price RH Nathan Eovaldi LH Eduardo Rodriguez SP Martin Perez
Bullpen RH Brandon Workman RH Matt Barnes LH Darwinzon Hernandez LH Josh Taylor RH Austin Brice RH Ryan Weber RH Marcus Walden RH Heath Hembree
Lineup C. Christian Vazquez 1B Michael Chavis 2B Jose Peraza 3B Rafael Devers SS Xander Bogaerts LF Andrew Benintendi CF Jackie Bradley JR RF Mookie Betts DH JD Martinez
Bench C Kevin Plawecki Inf Dustin Pedroia UTL Tzu-Wei Lin IF Jonathan Arauz
Optioned (14)
Hector Velazquez Jeffrey Springs Ryan Brasier Colten Brewer Matt Hall Denyi Reyes Mike Shawaryn Josh Osich Yoan Aybar Kyle Hart Chris Mazza
Bobby Dalbec CJ Chatham Marcus Wilson
I don’t think Price or Betts or others are getting traded to open the season. I really hate the SP depth, (Velazquez, Reyes, Hart). I hope I’m wrong about Bloom being done because I think the team still needs a SP, 1B, 2B & OF. And why is Ryan Weber still on the team? Bloom has waived Brian Johnson, Sam Travis, Marco Hernandez, Bobby Poyner & Travis Lakins but kept Weber.
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Post by soxfanatic on Jan 14, 2020 10:02:56 GMT -5
How pissed must Bloom be right about now?
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jan 14, 2020 10:13:05 GMT -5
How pissed must Bloom be right about now? What are the odds that Bloom would have taken the job if this broke before he was hired. I'd guess slim or none. He does have a chance to be a hero here.
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Post by swingingbunt on Jan 14, 2020 10:29:27 GMT -5
How pissed must Bloom be right about now? What are the odds that Bloom would have taken the job if this broke before he was hired. I'd guess slim or none. He does have a chance to be a hero here. He willingly interviewed for the Mets position. I don't think a little turmoil was going to scare him away from a job.
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Post by nomar on Jan 14, 2020 10:45:42 GMT -5
Yeah Chaim Bloom only took the job because he wanted to be Alex Cora’s boss really bad.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 14, 2020 11:02:01 GMT -5
Yeah Chaim Bloom only took the job because he wanted to be Alex Cora’s boss really bad. Not that Bloom strikes me as a guy who has to have his own way, but he'll eventually be able to hire the guy he wants for the job, not that he didn't want Cora - doubt he'll ever find that out. They'll have to do an interim situation most likely. I was thinking about this - who at this point is available that the Sox could or should hire? Gabe Kapler obviously has some experience - we know it wasn't smooth sailing in Philly. If Jason Varitek ever had designs on being a manager, now might be a good time....even without the experience. Dustin Pedroia might have a better shot at managing the team than playing...he's always had that aura. More than likely they stick with the experienced Roenicke and Bloom can wait until he finds the guy he wants long-term.
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Post by James Dunne on Jan 14, 2020 11:07:08 GMT -5
Gabe Kapler is the Giants manager.
Hiring a celebrity rather than a qualified person who has put in the time coaching and managing in the minors would be the absolute worst move in this situation.
I'm sure Bloom is fine.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 14, 2020 11:35:24 GMT -5
Gabe Kapler is the Giants manager. Hiring a celebrity rather than a qualified person who has put in the time coaching and managing in the minors would be the absolute worst move in this situation. I'm sure Bloom is fine. Ah, thanks. I knew he was with the Giants but for some reason I thought he was in a front office capacity.
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Post by sarasoxer on Jan 14, 2020 11:47:30 GMT -5
Gabe Kapler is the Giants manager. Hiring a celebrity rather than a qualified person who has put in the time coaching and managing in the minors would be the absolute worst move in this situation. I'm sure Bloom is fine. Yes on all counts. A top franchise like the Sox wouldn't go to a popular former player or possible part time player who hadn't cut his teeth in the job. That would be pre 1970s 'club' baseball in a modern era. The manager is, today, a developed "skill position". So Pedey and Tek, popular tho they are as people, are not going to replace Cora. And Kapler might have the players bulking up like Beni....😏 Unlike some who chastise the Sox for not spending or are somehow down on Bloom for not having effected a major transformation with his ears still wet, I have even more faith that he is not knee jerk in that necessary process.
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Post by shagworthy on Jan 14, 2020 11:52:14 GMT -5
Gabe Kapler is the Giants manager. Hiring a celebrity rather than a qualified person who has put in the time coaching and managing in the minors would be the absolute worst move in this situation. I'm sure Bloom is fine. Yes on all counts. A top franchise like the Sox wouldn't go to a popular former player or possible part time player who hadn't cut his teeth in the job. That would be pre 1970s 'club' baseball in a modern era. The manager is, today, a developed "skill position". So Pedey and Tek, popular tho they are as people, are not going to replace Cora. And Kapler might have the players bulking up like Beni....😏 -Not to mention, Kapler isn't exactly a good manager to begin with, and he has his own baggage with enabling players while he was with the Dodgers, which is exactly the kind of thing the Sox need to avoid. They need someone who can make the players comfortable and hold them accountable. Which is a tall order in today's MLB where it seems the players really run the whole show most days anyways.
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Post by nomar on Jan 14, 2020 12:51:26 GMT -5
Gabe Kapler is the Giants manager. Hiring a celebrity rather than a qualified person who has put in the time coaching and managing in the minors would be the absolute worst move in this situation. I'm sure Bloom is fine. I brought this up yesterday, and I know he hasn’t managed a club, but Sam Fuld was commended for being pro analytics and being able to bridge the gap between that school of thought and the actual day to day of playing the sport. Given that Bloom probably knows him, that seems like a potential fit. Not a bad time to hire someone green either IMO because it’s a bridge year and the focus of the org is going to change from what it has been the past few years. I will admit I’m biased towards progressive thinking candidates more so than pure experience.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Jan 14, 2020 13:56:42 GMT -5
Gabe Kapler is the Giants manager. Hiring a celebrity rather than a qualified person who has put in the time coaching and managing in the minors would be the absolute worst move in this situation. I'm sure Bloom is fine. Yes on all counts. A top franchise like the Sox wouldn't go to a popular former player or possible part time player who hadn't cut his teeth in the job. That would be pre 1970s 'club' baseball in a modern era. The manager is, today, a developed "skill position". So Pedey and Tek, popular tho they are as people, are not going to replace Cora. And Kapler might have the players bulking up like Beni....😏 Unlike some who chastise the Sox for not spending or are somehow down on Bloom for not having effected a major transformation with his ears still wet, I have even more faith that he is not knee jerk in that necessary process. I wasn't recommending Kapler. I had forgotten that he had gotten the managerial gig with the Giants. Thought he was working in the FO. Threw his name out because he's a familiar name who I thought had recently come available. I think Ausmus might be another unless he already got a managerial gig and I missed it, which is quite possible. There's Showalter but I'd have trouble seeing him with the Sox. I would have thought that having no managerial experience would be a huge detriment, but the team most likely to win the AL pennant is being managed by a guy with zero managerial experience prior to his hire - Aaron Boone, so it's possible a guy like Tek, if he wanted to manage, could be looked at, although I don't think he wants that commitment now and I honestly think he'd be better served if he was actually a bench coach (to a Ron Roenicke). I'm just saying, because of the timing of this, the Sox are at a disadvantage to zero in on a guy they could have wanted. I honestly think they just make Roenicke (if his reputation survives) the interim manager until Bloom can zero in on the guy he truly wants. I shouldn't say it's a foregone conclusion that Cora is gone, but it's likely he's suspended for more than a year, and I would be stunned if he isn't fired. Nomar, maybe you have something there. I've heard the name of Sam Fuld mentioned a couple of times. I have very little idea who he is other than a fringy player at one point.
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