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Post by nuttyredsox on Sept 16, 2021 7:45:07 GMT -5
Let X walk and go after Trevor Story
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Post by fenwaydouble on Sept 16, 2021 8:17:05 GMT -5
Let X walk and go after Trevor Story Xander is better than Trevor Story.
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Post by freddysthefuture2003 on Sept 16, 2021 8:35:02 GMT -5
Let X walk and go after Trevor Story Xander is better than Trevor Story. And Correa is better and younger than both. 5/175 with the 5th yr being a player option, he gets to hit free agency again at either 31 or 32
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Sept 16, 2021 8:53:59 GMT -5
Xander is better than Trevor Story. And Correa is better and younger than both. 5/175 with the 5th yr being a player option, he gets to hit free agency again at either 31 or 32 A shorter deal won't get it done with Correa. They use opt-outs in these long contracts which gives the player the right to become a free agent again if they play great and protects them for the long-term if they play not-so-great, so for Correa you're probably looking at 12 years $375 million with opt-outs after 4 or 5 seasons or so, but that doesn't benefit the signing team. It benefits the player. If Correa is great he chases bigger $ in free agency. If after year 5 he's declining and knows he won't get a better deal elsewhere that tops the duration of his contract then he remains in the contract. And I would think more often than not the latter scenario is what happens and the declining player remains with the team. That's what I'd expect. And yeah, spending the money on Trevor Story than Xander Bogaerts would be a really poor investment and downgrade. Correa is better than both considering he's younger and has a higher ceiling, but I don't think that Bloom makes that move.
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Post by fenwaydouble on Sept 16, 2021 8:57:12 GMT -5
Xander is better than Trevor Story. And Correa is better and younger than both. 5/175 with the 5th yr being a player option, he gets to hit free agency again at either 31 or 32 I don't think there's any world where Correa touches that contract, because somebody will give him $300 million with an opt out after five years anyway.
Plus, Correa is only better when he's on the field an healthy. 2021 is the first time that's been true for him since 2017.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 16, 2021 9:04:19 GMT -5
Let X walk and go after Trevor Story Trevor Story hasn't been particularly good this year has really ugly home and away splits so no thank you on him. Whoever wants to sign him to some ridiculous deal can have him.
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Post by iakovos11 on Sept 16, 2021 10:20:34 GMT -5
Let's keep this about Devers and his possible extension.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 16, 2021 11:48:26 GMT -5
I am curious as to who in the Red Sox organization actually prepares the contract. I'm pretty sure most of it is a fill in the blanks Word program but when it comes to unique provisions, who does that ? Is that person part of the negotiations ? My understanding is that this is part of the Baseball Ops function that BOH came out of.
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Post by jdb on Sept 16, 2021 12:47:00 GMT -5
As for an extension I’d be willing to estimate the remaining arbitration years then give him Anthony Rendons 7 and 245.
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Post by mobaz on Sept 17, 2021 19:35:00 GMT -5
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Post by patford on Sept 17, 2021 19:48:10 GMT -5
Sure would be nice to see Devers get brazing hot over the next two weeks. He hasn't had his expected strong finish to this point. Every day I expect him to go on a tear.
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Post by Underwater Johnson on Sept 17, 2021 20:25:55 GMT -5
He does make some pretty plays now and again. Just maddeningly inconsistent.
I do like those unis, too.
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Post by notnickyorke on Sept 25, 2021 5:11:34 GMT -5
Anything over 250 million for Devers seems like a pretty big overpay. He just hasn't shown to be the same caliber of player as the ones getting 30 million AAV and 300 million contracts.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 25, 2021 9:16:26 GMT -5
He does make some pretty plays now and again. Just maddeningly inconsistent. I do like those unis, too.
Co-sign on pretty much all of this. Will admit the City Connect jerseys have grown on me. And the coaching staff will earn their money trying to figure out the mystery of Raffy on defense.
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Post by alan on Sept 25, 2021 11:09:44 GMT -5
Anything over 250 million for Devers seems like a pretty big overpay. He just hasn't shown to be the same caliber of player as the ones getting 30 million AAV and 300 million contracts. If it's 12 years 300 then it's not that bad, especially if it's front loaded
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Post by notnickyorke on Sept 25, 2021 15:57:23 GMT -5
Anything over 250 million for Devers seems like a pretty big overpay. He just hasn't shown to be the same caliber of player as the ones getting 30 million AAV and 300 million contracts. If it's 12 years 300 then it's not that bad, especially if it's front loaded That's still a 25 mil AAV paid through his age 37 season. It's also triple what Bregman got at the same point in his carrier, and double what Miguel Cabrera got. Both of them had superior number and accomplishments as well.
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Post by Chris Hatfield on Sept 26, 2021 22:33:27 GMT -5
If it's 12 years 300 then it's not that bad, especially if it's front loaded That's still a 25 mil AAV paid through his age 37 season. It's also triple what Bregman got at the same point in his carrier, and double what Miguel Cabrera got. Both of them had superior number and accomplishments as well. Those aren't really apples to apples comps though. Bregman's contract buys out his 3 years of arbitration for $11m each and 2 years of FA for $28.5m each. That latter number is the one you want. And as for Cabrera, I presume you're referring to the contract he signed in 2008, which might as well have been signed a lifetime ago (and also bought out 2 years of arbitration). The comps you want are Arenado (8/260 including one arb year) and Rendon (7/245).
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Post by dirtdog on Sept 27, 2021 9:29:52 GMT -5
I love Raffy but he looks like he is on a collision course with being a mostly full time DH. IMO he is in a league with David Ortiz as a hitter. However I dont believe he is nearly as clutch as Big Pappi. I feel like he pads his stats against teams like the Orioles. Problem is that if you dont pay him, another team will. On top of that I think the NL will go to the DH in the not too distant future. That would really open the market options for Raffy.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Sept 27, 2021 10:20:36 GMT -5
I love Raffy but he looks like he is on a collision course with being a mostly full time DH. IMO he is in a league with David Ortiz as a hitter. However I dont believe he is nearly as clutch as Big Pappi. I feel like he pads his stats against teams like the Orioles. Problem is that if you dont pay him, another team will. On top of that I think the NL will go to the DH in the not too distant future. That would really open the market options for Raffy. Devers hit .311/.373/.511 in the playoffs with 14 RBI in 15 games against the Astros and Dodgers. In his regular season career, in high leverage at-bats against the Astros, Yankees and Rays he has hit .343/.395/.400. I think literally every stud in MLB history padded their stats against the shit teams.
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Post by soxfaninnj on Oct 24, 2022 21:06:26 GMT -5
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Post by mparker on Oct 24, 2022 21:14:33 GMT -5
I’m guessing 8/225,000,000 backloaded
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Post by nomar on Oct 24, 2022 21:30:23 GMT -5
Give me 7/182 then go get Correa
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Post by mparker on Oct 24, 2022 21:39:25 GMT -5
If this is true I don’t want him back for that at all
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Post by stevedillard on Oct 24, 2022 21:43:05 GMT -5
Chris Cotillo @chriscotillo · 20m No active extension talks between the Red Sox and Rafael Devers, according to a source with direct knowledge. Nothing imminent on that front.
Boston is going to try hard to extend him this winter. That intention has not changed. Just have not picked up talks in recent weeks.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Oct 24, 2022 21:46:24 GMT -5
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