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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 22, 2022 10:57:01 GMT -5
If the Sox had no other OF plans, then I think they'd be happy to just guarantee that $2.5 million and bring Pillar on board.
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Post by redsox04071318champs on Mar 22, 2022 11:00:21 GMT -5
I'm in mourning but somehow I'll get over it. They must be getting some RH hitting corner OF, aren't they?
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Post by cdj on Mar 22, 2022 11:06:10 GMT -5
Conforto 2/25, do it
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Post by FenwayFanatic on Mar 22, 2022 12:21:33 GMT -5
I don’t understand the calls to trade for Myers. The Red Sox already traded for one overpaid OF and middling prospects this offseason. They are only going as far as their starting pitching which is not great. They need a righty bat. So you fill a need and get prospects for an expiring contract.
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Post by cdj on Mar 22, 2022 12:42:26 GMT -5
Eh, they just added a righty bat. I don’t think the OF necessarily needs to be a righty. Depends if you want JBJ to platoon or not I guess. I’d like to use him as purely the 4th OF and would target a starting caliber player for RF
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Post by sarasoxer on Mar 22, 2022 18:43:09 GMT -5
Eh, they just added a righty bat. I don’t think the OF necessarily needs to be a righty. Depends if you want JBJ to platoon or not I guess. I’d like to use him as purely the 4th OF and would target a starting caliber player for RF We have no ready RF option in the minors. To bolster us adequately we need to trade for or acquire a player. FA Conforto is LH hitter, would balance lineup, modest average that could improve in Fenway and with our lineup, good power, high OBP...29. At least a Stop gap...Let's do it. He'll cost a 3rd round pick. Small price to pay.
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Post by Canseco on Mar 22, 2022 18:50:30 GMT -5
I’d be happy with a solid defensive, RHH outfielder. With Fenway’s CF and RF, outfield defense is especially important to us (as we’ve seen on our good—and not so good—teams).
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Post by rico6 on Mar 22, 2022 20:23:41 GMT -5
Eh, they just added a righty bat. I don’t think the OF necessarily needs to be a righty. Depends if you want JBJ to platoon or not I guess. I’d like to use him as purely the 4th OF and would target a starting caliber player for RF We have no ready RF option in the minors. To bolster us adequately we need to trade for or acquire a player. FA Conforto is LH hitter, would balance lineup, modest average that could improve in Fenway and with our lineup, good power, high OBP...29. At least a Stop gap...Let's do it. He'll cost a 3rd round pick. Small price to pay. Boras probably wants an opt out after year 1 and decent money. I wouldn't want the Sox to pay decent money and then lose the 3rd round slot money for just one year. However, I'm sure Bloom will be creative with Boras if there is any deal to be made. I would like to see a starting caliber RF as JBJ may be a hole in the lineup. Hopefully, he can find his spot for hot streaks.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Mar 23, 2022 21:53:35 GMT -5
Down one option.
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Post by julyanmorley on Mar 23, 2022 23:24:37 GMT -5
So we're down to Conforto Mystery Trade (everyone is rooting for Will Myers it seems) JBJ platooning with...Arroyo or Rob Refsnyder?
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Post by basbal24 on Mar 24, 2022 6:29:31 GMT -5
we are waiting for a DFA or a trade
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Post by voiceofreason on Mar 24, 2022 6:52:19 GMT -5
It seems as though at this point Conforto won't be getting a big contract from anyone and could be had for a favorable deal. I wasn't on the bandwagon for him til now if the Sox can get him on a deal that makes sense for both sides. Short term with opt outs and escalators for him if he performs. Adding a prime Conforto bat would put this team on an even keel with any other team in the league when it comes to scoring runs. I think they have a great lineup now but with a bounce back yr out of Conforto they would be ridiculous. That would also allow Duran to just focus on developing some parts of his game in AAA rather than in Boston.
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Post by jdb on Mar 24, 2022 7:26:30 GMT -5
I was looking at the Brewers and Tyrone Taylor looks like a perfect fit. RH who hits LHP, 5 years left on his service clock and plays all three OF positions above average. Problem is the Brewers would then have to find his replacement but they have a bunch of OFers coming up.
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Post by jimed14 on Mar 24, 2022 7:47:00 GMT -5
Conforto is LH and a bad fielder. Can't think of a worse fit to give up a draft pick for.
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Post by ematz1423 on Mar 24, 2022 8:14:34 GMT -5
I'm unfortunately starting to think that we're looking at the sox roster at this point. JBJ going to be the RF if I had to guess which makes me a little sick. Hopefully he bounces back is all I can say.
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Post by cdj on Mar 24, 2022 8:23:27 GMT -5
Conforto is LH and a bad fielder. Can't think of a worse fit to give up a draft pick for. He was a bad fielder *this season*, could just be a one year thing. He was actually pretty damn solid his entire career leading up to this past season. Elite in LF even. Solid in right. I prefer him in the field to Hunter Renfroe even. I also don’t care about the 3rd rd pick when it comes to adding a legitimate bat to the MLB lineup. We get comped for Erod and the Fabian pick carries over so it’s not like the early rounds would be punted for us
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Post by benzinger on Mar 24, 2022 8:56:08 GMT -5
This guy on the Brewers, Hunter Renfroe, looks like a perfect fit for the 3rd OF slot. Has a big arm that would play well in Fenway, too.
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Post by manfred on Mar 24, 2022 9:18:56 GMT -5
I’ve come around to Story being the 3rd OF. That is, if he hits, and if JBJ can still play elite defense, they can open the season with this OF and get by. Then see what happens.
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Post by nomar on Mar 24, 2022 9:25:20 GMT -5
I love JBJ but I really can’t watch him hit every day. I just don’t believe there isn’t one more deal to come.
If we don’t than I’ll be giving all of my energy to Mr Duran.
Another option would be to upgrade the other weak spot which is Catcher, but I’m not sure they’d do that to the pitching staff this late in the spring.
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Post by incandenza on Mar 24, 2022 9:29:23 GMT -5
I'm coming around to the idea that in the Renfroe-for-Bradley trade, Bloom legitimately thought the Red Sox weren't sacrificing any value.
It's not crazy; the public projections generally have Renfroe about 1-1.5 WAR higher than Bradley. But with a few assumptions you could imagine how the Red Sox' own evaluations might see them as on par:
1) They value defense higher than public projections. 2) They see a bigger gap in defensive quality between the two players than public projections. 3) They think that Bradley's atrocious batting line in 2021 is due to injury or some mechanical issue they think they can fix, which could make sense given their familiarity with him.
All they have to do is get Bradley back to the sort of player he was in 2019 - not even the better player he was in 2020 - for him to be at least as valuable as Renfroe.
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Post by taiwansox on Mar 24, 2022 9:34:23 GMT -5
I think the whole JBJ vs. Renfroe argument is an example of recency bias. In 2019 and 2020 (and before) JBJ was clearly the better player, but after 2021 JBJ is all of a sudden a massive downgrade. Renfroe had a .315 OBP last year, that’s not great…mix that in with sloppy defense, it’s possible JBJ is an upgrade.
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Post by manfred on Mar 24, 2022 10:19:55 GMT -5
I think the whole JBJ vs. Renfroe argument is an example of recency bias. In 2019 and 2020 (and before) JBJ was clearly the better player, but after 2021 JBJ is all of a sudden a massive downgrade. Renfroe had a .315 OBP last year, that’s not great…mix that in with sloppy defense, it’s possible JBJ is an upgrade. It is funny how last year people viewed Renfroe as the upgrade… coming off bad years!
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Post by greatscottcooper on Mar 24, 2022 10:23:48 GMT -5
How funny would it be if Renfroe regressed and JBJ bounced back just enough to hold more value than Renfroe?
It's certainly a plausible scenario.
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Post by soxfanatic on Mar 24, 2022 10:27:16 GMT -5
Ramon Laureano would fit this team so well. I really wonder what Oakland would want for him.
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Post by taiwansox on Mar 24, 2022 10:28:08 GMT -5
How funny would it be if Renfroe regressed and JBJ bounced back just enough to hold more value than Renfroe? It's certainly a plausible scenario. Regression to the mean, it’s a real thing!
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