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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 12, 2023 14:20:31 GMT -5
Given some of the guys that have been signed as UDFA's so far (Josh Moylan and Eric Kennedy are two guys I'm pretty shocked didn't get picked), I would hope Pearson gets around to that as there's probably some talent to be had out there.
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Post by kingstephanos on Jul 12, 2023 15:13:18 GMT -5
Given some of the guys that have been signed as UDFA's so far (Josh Moylan and Eric Kennedy are two guys I'm pretty shocked didn't get picked), I would hope Pearson gets around to that as there's probably some talent to be had out there. Most teams haven't signed any UDFAs yet.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 12, 2023 15:18:01 GMT -5
Given some of the guys that have been signed as UDFA's so far (Josh Moylan and Eric Kennedy are two guys I'm pretty shocked didn't get picked), I would hope Pearson gets around to that as there's probably some talent to be had out there. Most teams haven't signed any UDFAs yet. According to D1 Baseball, this is incorrect: d1baseball.com/prospects/2023-undrafted-free-agent-signings-tracker/
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Post by redsoxrich on Jul 12, 2023 16:16:16 GMT -5
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Boston Red Sox 07/12/23 Boston Red Sox signed RHP Blake Wehunt.
Boston Red Sox 07/12/23 Boston Red Sox signed OF Caden Rose.
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Post by redsoxrich on Jul 12, 2023 16:21:01 GMT -5
Saw that I had been beaten to the punch by Vermontsox1 on those signings! My apologies.
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Post by The Duck on Jul 12, 2023 17:22:55 GMT -5
Saw that I had been beaten to the punch by Vermontsox1 on those signings! My apologies. You have joined a long and distinguished list.
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Post by bentossaurus on Jul 12, 2023 19:56:17 GMT -5
I don't think it will have much of an impact on Call's decision, but his future at UCLA is in the outfield with Roch Cholowsky not getting drafted. He is risen! I'm sure Teel being a Jersey native has nothing to do with it. /s
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Post by soxin8 on Jul 12, 2023 20:56:47 GMT -5
Saw that I had been beaten to the punch by Vermontsox1 on those signings! My apologies. You have joined a long and distinguished list. I was thinking it's a little like trying to buzz in with the correct answer on jeopardy when you're competing against Ken Jennings.
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Post by pappyman99 on Jul 13, 2023 7:23:16 GMT -5
Is Call basically the one big one to follow in terms of talent and whether he will sign or not?
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Post by radiohix on Jul 13, 2023 8:05:56 GMT -5
I don't think it will have much of an impact on Call's decision, but his future at UCLA is in the outfield with Roch Cholowsky not getting drafted. He is risen! I'm sure Teel being a Jersey native has nothing to do with it. /s Funny thing is that I first thought you were making a reference to a season 3 episode title of The Sopranos considering that the show’s action happens there then I remembered that Ian hails from the garden state lol
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 13, 2023 8:34:29 GMT -5
Is Call basically the one big one to follow in terms of talent and whether he will sign or not? Mostly fair, although Orloski's said his advisor told him to prepare anywhere from the 4th-8th round, so I think he's someone despite not being "ranked" warrants a follow. In my limited knowledge of Dylan Schlaegel, I would say he seems like someone that can become a good college player in a couple of years, and he could be last year's Travis Sanders in that regard, or surprise us and sign for slot like Deundre Jones did last year. But I would rank them in terms of both likeliness to sign and "prospectiness" as Call, Orloski, Schlaegel
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 13, 2023 8:44:48 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 13, 2023 9:50:34 GMT -5
Draft signing are starting to come in. Braves and Angels signed their 1st rounders to announced deals and the Braves added a couple more.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2023 10:18:45 GMT -5
Surprised he got that much. I thought that would be a $10k signing.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 13, 2023 10:20:22 GMT -5
Draft signing are starting to come in. Braves and Angels signed their 1st rounders to announced deals and the Braves added a couple more. I like Nolan Schanuel and all, but boy if I were an Angels fan I would have hoped that deal would have come in underslot.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2023 10:23:23 GMT -5
Another one where I thought there would be more savings.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2023 10:25:31 GMT -5
So, $178,900 savings between those two picks.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2023 10:36:14 GMT -5
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Post by Addam603 on Jul 13, 2023 10:36:42 GMT -5
Those two signings make me really hesitant to think that Call or Orloski is going to sign. Mike’s first round estimates had Rose and Wehunt going for 30k and 30k not 150k and 100k. (Not a shot at Mike. His guesses are usually spot on). That’s a big difference though, 190k to be exact. If that money doesn’t come back from somewhere else, I don’t see the late round high school guys taking that.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 13, 2023 10:39:19 GMT -5
Those two signings make me really hesitant to think that Call or Orloski is going to sign. Mike’s first round estimates had Rose and Wehunt going for 30k and 30k not 150k and 100k. (Not a shot at Mike. His guesses are usually spot on). That’s a big difference though, 190k to be exact. If that money doesn’t come back from somewhere else, I don’t see the late round high school guys taking that. I think there is potential for Anderson, Zanetello and Taylor to come in under Mike's projections
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 13, 2023 10:43:17 GMT -5
Those two signings make me really hesitant to think that Call or Orloski is going to sign. Mike’s first round estimates had Rose and Wehunt going for 30k and 30k not 150k and 100k. (Not a shot at Mike. His guesses are usually spot on). That’s a big difference though, 190k to be exact. If that money doesn’t come back from somewhere else, I don’t see the late round high school guys taking that. I still think he's over on Anderson, but we'll see
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 13, 2023 10:45:16 GMT -5
Surprised he got that much. I thought that would be a $10k signing. College JR impacted by injuries, would've thought he'd be a little below this but he had a lot to gain by returning so I'm not terribly surprised here.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 13, 2023 10:50:24 GMT -5
Another one where I thought there would be more savings. Question on this one - if Wehunt was going to cost a little money, why not wait until rounds 11-13 and try to draft him? I know the obvious answer is "he might not be there" but was just curious if there's any nuance here that I wouldn't know about as a casual draft watcher. Rounds 11+ you get a flat 150k to spend per pick, and if you go under you don't gain any bonus money to spend elsewhere. You draft the cheap guys in the first ten rounds so you can gain cap money to spend elsewhere.
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Post by texs31 on Jul 13, 2023 10:56:49 GMT -5
Question on this one - if Wehunt was going to cost a little money, why not wait until rounds 11-13 and try to draft him? I know the obvious answer is "he might not be there" but was just curious if there's any nuance here that I wouldn't know about as a casual draft watcher. Rounds 11+ you get a flat 150k to spend per pick, and if you go under you don't gain any bonus money to spend elsewhere. You draft the cheap guys in the first ten rounds so you can gain cap money to spend elsewhere. But I believe that's where the question stems. If he signs for 100K as a Top 10 (rd) pick, he costs you 100K. If he signs for 100K as an 11th rd pick, he doesn't cost you anything (against the pool, that is).
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Post by Guidas on Jul 13, 2023 11:01:32 GMT -5
Really interesting interview with Kiley McDaniel here on Wharton Moneyball podcast (free) that would've been great to have before the draft, but schedules and availability and all that. Anyway, it's all about the draft, how teams model and pick, what they can and can't project and what they're looking in general. A few interesting takeaways: - He talked about how teams project pitchers with so-so velo to become much better going forward. One team (unnamed) uses a high speed imagining system to look at efficiency of push-off foot, which they have shown is predictive in projecting increased velo down the road. - He talked about one team in particular (unnamed) that picks completely based on what the model/computer says regarding position and dollar value. So if a guy becomes available that they like, but the model says his max bonus should not exceed $400k and the kid wants $500k they won't budge. - He only mentioned three teams by name: • Colorado, which he said has basically wasted $200 million in draft capital in the last several years. • NYY, which he said is "among the best" at analyzing their prospects when they are at or near top value in the minors and determining whether they are regulars on a playoff team. If not, they trade them then and there when industry perceptions are at their zenith. • Cleveland, on whether they are really good at drafting because they've consistently found starting pitcher value after the third round, or if that's just small(ish) sample bias over the last five years or so. Lots of other stuff that should've gotten follow-up questions, but they were limited by McDaniel's hard deadline.
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