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2023 Draft Signing Period
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2023 17:31:18 GMT -5
So that's $449,100 saved between Weins, Rose, and Wehunt. $600,100 - now accounting for Weins, Rose, O'Donnell, and Wehunt.
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Post by ramireja on Jul 13, 2023 18:28:23 GMT -5
Antonio Anderson appears to be in Boston via IG...looks like they're wasting no time this year.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2023 18:43:26 GMT -5
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Post by dirtdog on Jul 13, 2023 18:48:38 GMT -5
• NYY, which he said is "among the best" at analyzing their prospects when they are at or near top value in the minors and determining whether they are regulars on a playoff team. If not, they trade them then and there when industry perceptions are at their zenith. This, assuming it works, has a whole lot of value.
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Post by RedSoxStats on Jul 13, 2023 18:59:31 GMT -5
Zanetello is also in Boston
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Post by wOBA Fett on Jul 13, 2023 19:11:32 GMT -5
No $10k signing this year? Must have been some pitch data on those 6-10 picks because they don't jump out on paper.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 13, 2023 20:53:23 GMT -5
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Post by philsbosoxfan on Jul 13, 2023 23:38:14 GMT -5
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 14, 2023 8:12:23 GMT -5
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 14, 2023 8:57:50 GMT -5
Updated "super wicked early speculative gut-check predictions" for the 2023 signing season. I'm personally still cautiously optimistic on signing Call, but I recognize that not everyone feels that way.
Top Ten Rounds (entire amount counts towards bonus cap) Round, Overall Pick, Player, Projected Bonus 1. Kyle Teel $4,200,000 - reported to already have an underslot deal 2. Nazzan Zanetello $2,300,000 - reported to already have an overslot deal, in Boston, reporting on Monday 3. Antonio Anderson $2,000,000 - likely an overslot deal, unclear how much, in Boston, likely reporting next week 4. Matt Duffy $500,000 - reported to already have a slightly underslot deal 4. Kristian Campbell $492,700 - signing 4. Justin Riemer $200,000 5. Connelly Early $150,000 6. CJ Weims $50,000 (signed) 7. Caden Rose $150,000 (signed) 8. Trennor O'Donnell $50,000 (signed) 9. Blake Wehunt $100,000 (signed) 10. Ryan Ammons $50,000 - signing - lists Red Sox in his IG bio
After 10th round, above $150K 11. Nelly Taylor $250,000 ($100k counts against the cap) - seems very interested in signing 15. Phoenix Call $600,000 ($450k counts against the cap) - closest "call"
After 10th round, possible $150K or less signs (count $0 towards cap) 12. Max Carlson 13. Cade Feeney - plans to sign 14. Jojo Ingrassia - Fullerton's twitter feed has a graphic saying Ingrasia is "Boston Bound", may or may not mean something 16. Isaac Stebens 18. Zach Fogell - expected to sign this week 19. Stanley Tucker - blogger reported that Tucker stated that he intends to sign
Total spent towards cap using these projections: $10,792,700 Red Sox Cap: $10,295,100 Red Sox Cap +5%: (no draft pick penalty): $10,809,855
Super wicked early projected not to sign 17. Dylan Schlaegel 20. Robert Orloski - seems unlikely to sign; possible insurance in case something else goes sideways
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 14, 2023 9:02:42 GMT -5
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 14, 2023 9:18:32 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 14, 2023 9:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 14, 2023 9:20:26 GMT -5
Super wicked early projected not to sign19. Stanley Tucker Mike, Being pretty familiar with A&M I theorized that Tucker might not sign based on how the past season went (though A&M's outfield is going to be ludicrously stacked next year talent-wise, so not sure it'll get much better for him) so this isn't super surprising to see this change, but is this in response to a piece of news you've seen indicating he won't sign, or is this just a change in gut feeling?
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Post by Mike Andrews on Jul 14, 2023 9:28:47 GMT -5
After the draft, Pearson said he thinks the club is going to miss "at most 3-4 guys." (Note that I'm pretty sure they said something like that last year and only left 2 picks unsigned). IMO Oroski and Schlaegel are the top candidates to not sign, they seem like insurance picks. Call is obviously not clear, but like I said I'm cautiously optimistic. As I'm doing research today I just found a blog reporting that Tucker said that he plans to sign with the Red Sox. I can't speak to the reliability of the source but I might switch Tucker back to the other section.
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Post by 1toolplayer on Jul 14, 2023 9:34:37 GMT -5
D1 Baseball has a "Matt" Tucker in the xfer portal from A&M, but don't see a Matt Tucker on their roster this yr or last yr. They do have a Wyatt Tucker, who is also listed in the portal, so wondering if Stanley is "Matt" or "Matt" is Wyatt (there are typically a few errors listed), or what the Tuck is going on there, but another layer to the pontificating.
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Post by vermontsox1 on Jul 14, 2023 9:37:58 GMT -5
Stanley Tucker is apparently the nephew of ex-NFL safety Glover Quin. Quin posted a video of Tucker getting the call from the Sox: www.instagram.com/reel/CunNyGJPwOw/?hl=enSeemed to be pretty excited about it, although that's not necessarily a great indicator that he will sign.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 14, 2023 9:50:28 GMT -5
After the draft, Pearson said he thinks the club is going to miss "at most 3-4 guys." (Note that I'm pretty sure they said something like that last year and only left 2 picks unsigned). IMO Oroski and Schlaegel are the top candidates to not sign, they seem like insurance picks. Call is obviously not clear, but like I said I'm cautiously optimistic. As I'm doing research today I just found a blog reporting that Tucker said that he plans to sign with the Red Sox. I can't speak to the reliability of the source but I might switch Tucker back to the other section. The Eagle is generally pretty reliable, and that's a good pull.
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Post by gk2186 on Jul 14, 2023 9:54:50 GMT -5
Peter Gammons @pgammo Scott Boras let the Red Sox know that getting the Kyle Teel deal done was important to give the number one pick a head start on knowing and learning from Jason Varitek. If Keel is what everyone who knows him seemingly believes, this is an important relationhip for Teel's career
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Post by cba82 on Jul 14, 2023 10:15:11 GMT -5
Does Jason Varitek spend time with the minor league affiliates during the season? I feel like I always see him in the dugout.
So, when would he work with Teel? Spring training?
I basically don’t believe anything that comes out of the mouth of Scott Boras.
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 14, 2023 10:44:43 GMT -5
After the draft, Pearson said he thinks the club is going to miss "at most 3-4 guys." (Note that I'm pretty sure they said something like that last year and only left 2 picks unsigned). IMO Oroski and Schlaegel are the top candidates to not sign, they seem like insurance picks. Call is obviously not clear, but like I said I'm cautiously optimistic. As I'm doing research today I just found a blog reporting that Tucker said that he plans to sign with the Red Sox. I can't speak to the reliability of the source but I might switch Tucker back to the other section. I don't have any insider information, but based solely on the reported signing amounts and expected signing estimates it doesn't appear there is going to be any money (above $150K) for a Call signing unless one of the other negotiations from the first 4 rounds hits a snag
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Post by soxfan06 on Jul 14, 2023 11:10:53 GMT -5
After the draft, Pearson said he thinks the club is going to miss "at most 3-4 guys." (Note that I'm pretty sure they said something like that last year and only left 2 picks unsigned). IMO Oroski and Schlaegel are the top candidates to not sign, they seem like insurance picks. Call is obviously not clear, but like I said I'm cautiously optimistic. As I'm doing research today I just found a blog reporting that Tucker said that he plans to sign with the Red Sox. I can't speak to the reliability of the source but I might switch Tucker back to the other section. I don't have any insider information, but based solely on the reported signing amounts and expected signing estimates it doesn't appear there is going to be any money (above $150K) for a Call signing unless one of the other negotiations from the first 4 rounds hits a snag Where do you get that? They have already saved $600K and we have no idea what Teel is getting.
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Post by greenmonster on Jul 14, 2023 11:45:30 GMT -5
I don't have any insider information, but based solely on the reported signing amounts and expected signing estimates it doesn't appear there is going to be any money (above $150K) for a Call signing unless one of the other negotiations from the first 4 rounds hits a snag Where do you get that? They have already saved $600K and we have no idea what Teel is getting. Yes, they have saved $600k when compared to the slot values, but the current signings (Weims, Rose, O'Donnel, Wehunt) have all been over the estimated values by roughly a total of $370k, which means the amount of available money to throw at Call is shrinking. That's all I am saying... Yes, I have no idea what Teel, Zantello, Anderson, etc might be considering or if the reported signing numbers are even accurate.
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Post by julyanmorley on Jul 14, 2023 11:50:15 GMT -5
I mean, it's clear that they have actually made a tempting offer to Call. So the money came from somewhere.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Jul 14, 2023 11:53:00 GMT -5
Where do you get that? They have already saved $600K and we have no idea what Teel is getting. Yes, they have saved $600k when compared to the slot values, but the current signings (Weims, Rose, O'Donnel, Wehunt) have all been over the estimated values by roughly a total of $370k, which means the amount of available money to throw at Call is shrinking. That's all I am saying... Yes, I have no idea what Teel, Zantello, Anderson, etc might be considering or if the reported signing numbers are even accurate. So if you don't know if the reported signing numbers are accurate, and if you don't know what they're considering, what are you using as the basis for "expected signing estimates it doesn't appear there is going to be any money". "I don't know" is not an expectation. The only sort of expectation we've been given is from directly what Mike posted. In his updated projections, which include the signings that have already come in, he still has the Red Sox with enough money to throw $600K at one of the high school guys, and that's with what I believe to be still too high a number for Anderson. Does that mean Call is willing to take that? No clue. But it seems very possible if not probable that the money will at least be there. If you doubt the estimates that Mike put out, fine, but you made it seem like you've seen estimates that actively go against that information.
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