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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 14, 2023 15:21:52 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 14, 2023 15:22:56 GMT -5
No thanks on anything to do with anyone in the A's organization. I know they have limited resources but that team is a tire fire and their farm isn't anything outstanding for how bad they've been recently. They make awful trades too. Nope.
Antonetti intrigues me though, if there was ever an organization that seems to have the ability to get the most out of their pitchers and develop them it's the Guardians and he's their POBO. I would take him in a second.
I said this in the Bloom was fired thread but feels like it belongs in here too
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Post by grandsalami on Sept 14, 2023 15:23:54 GMT -5
No thanks on anything to do with anyone in the A's organization. I know they have limited resources but that team is a tire fire and their farm isn't anything outstanding for how bad they've been recently. They make awful trades too. Nope. Antonetti intrigues me though, if there was ever an organization that seems to have the ability to get the most out of their pitchers and develop them it's the Guardians and he's their POBO. I would take him in a second. I said this in the Bloom was fired thread but feels like it belongs in here too the A's are a tire fire because the A's ownership are a bunch of scumbags... That has nothing to do with the GM.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 14, 2023 15:27:16 GMT -5
No thanks on anything to do with anyone in the A's organization. I know they have limited resources but that team is a tire fire and their farm isn't anything outstanding for how bad they've been recently. They make awful trades too. Nope. Antonetti intrigues me though, if there was ever an organization that seems to have the ability to get the most out of their pitchers and develop them it's the Guardians and he's their POBO. I would take him in a second. I said this in the Bloom was fired thread but feels like it belongs in here too the A's are a tire fire because the A's ownership are a bunch of scumbags... That has nothing to do with the GM. Ha for fear of having the same tangent in two threads, ownership aren't the ones trading Sean Murphy and Olson for basically nothing. Ownership aren't the ones overseeing the farm system that isn't any good even though they haven't been very good in years. Hard pass from me on anyone in that org. Not disagreeing the owners are awful though, they are terrible.
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Post by nomar on Sept 14, 2023 15:30:32 GMT -5
Indians Guardians fans already seem very scared which is a nice pseudo-recommendation for Antonetti.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 14, 2023 15:33:47 GMT -5
Antonetti was voted exec of the year just last season. I do have to wonder, how would he be available? Is his contract up? If not I can't imagine the Guardians would just say oh yea sure go to the Red Sox we won't stop that? He's already their POBO so it's not a scenario where it's a GM who would be getting a promotion in the new org.
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 14, 2023 15:36:07 GMT -5
Can't remember Cleveland doing anything obviously stupid. They convinced Jose Ramirez and Andres Gimenez to stick around for cheap recently.
4 of their last 7 first round picks, and their last 6 second round picks were pitchers so that may be one difference from the Chaim regime.
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Post by bellhorndingers21 on Sept 14, 2023 15:40:07 GMT -5
Can they outright just sign Antonetti or will they have trade the 2023 version of Mike Aviles, Pablo Reyes?
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 14, 2023 15:41:59 GMT -5
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 14, 2023 15:43:05 GMT -5
Can they outright just sign Antonetti or will they have trade the 2023 version of Mike Aviles, Pablo Reyes? This is what I am wondering, if he's under contract I'm not sure he'd be allowed to jump ship without some incentive for the Guardians to let him to do so?
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Post by julyanmorley on Sept 14, 2023 15:45:22 GMT -5
Everything I have seen so far has been journalists publishing their wild speculation. I need to stop letting them win by clicking.
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Post by ematz1423 on Sept 14, 2023 15:50:16 GMT -5
Everything I have seen so far has been journalists publishing their wild speculation. I need to stop letting them win by clicking. Very true, that's all we're going to get probably until the end of the season or there abouts. I don't think they'll have a new POBO/GM in the next week or anything. Probably working ourselves up in a tizzy for nothing.
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Post by seamus on Sept 14, 2023 15:54:50 GMT -5
I hope they promote Ferreira. I think this was a PR-based firing, so I want organizational continuity. Bringing in someone from the outside and saying, "You can't hire your own FO staff and you're stuck with Cora" is silly.
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Post by radiohix on Sept 14, 2023 16:01:23 GMT -5
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Post by kwodes on Sept 14, 2023 16:05:19 GMT -5
Is there any merit to any of these? I feel like a lot of reporters just have a list of 2nd-in-command guys at top organizations like dodgers, rays, etc or top guys at really good small market organizations like Cleveland, Milwaukee, etc.
I shouldn't lump every report into that. I'm sure some reporters actually have insight
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Post by carl4sox on Sept 14, 2023 16:08:22 GMT -5
Larry Luccino says BobbyV should have the job.
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Post by scottysmalls on Sept 14, 2023 16:38:33 GMT -5
No idea if any of these guys are actually available but of the names mentioned I like Antonetti, Gomes, and Hazen and Fuld seems promising. I really hope they don't go to Cora.
Antonetti is the one guy speculated who I think I'd actually be excited to have over Bloom, but will be interesting.
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Post by jbuttah on Sept 14, 2023 16:48:07 GMT -5
I would think if Ed Romero doesn't get the job, then he's outta here.
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Post by pedroelgrande on Sept 14, 2023 16:56:37 GMT -5
Just bring me someone who values the farm system and building from within.
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Post by James Dunne on Sept 14, 2023 16:58:02 GMT -5
Fine I'll do it.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 14, 2023 17:01:20 GMT -5
I would think if Ed Romero doesn't get the job, then he's outta here. I would think he'd be less petulant.
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Post by thegoodthebadthesox on Sept 14, 2023 17:11:03 GMT -5
I would think if Ed Romero doesn't get the job, then he's outta here. I would think he'd be less petulant. It is possible to leave a job amicably, you know.
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Post by seamus on Sept 14, 2023 17:14:07 GMT -5
I would think if Ed Romero doesn't get the job, then he's outta here. If this was just a PR firing to satisfy the media and the vocal parts of the fanbase that didn't like Bloom, hiring BOH, Romero, or Ferreira would make the most sense to maintain organizational continuity. I think reporting indicates that BOH is not in the running, though, so who knows?
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Post by charmcitysoxfan on Sept 14, 2023 18:21:08 GMT -5
Wasnt the thought behind the original Bloom hire - to recreate something similar to what Friedman had in LA? Well for the next hire maybe look to LA (or Atlanta)? Not sure are the potential candidates though.
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Post by benogliviesbrother on Sept 14, 2023 18:32:50 GMT -5
I would think he'd be less petulant. It is possible to leave a job amicably, you know. Sure. But as the comment was written "if/then ... outta here" it sounded much like a "take this job and shove it," reaction to not getting a promotion, which my reply was in response to. To me that would be a petulant response. He's had a job here 17 years. I wouldn't think he'd be in any hurry to move along, whether offered the job, or not.
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